Dragon Ball Super 52

For anyone who missed yesterday's episode of Dragon Ball Super (Episode 52):

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It looks like we'll finally see how Zamasu is connected to Black Goku next episode. Any final guesses?

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Gohan best boy

Future Zamasu literally is Black Goku. Don't expect any big twists or surprise reveals. They will just lay it into your lap. Mark my words. Vegeta and F. Trunks will fail to stop Black and Goku will defeat him.

>Vegeta and F. Trunks will fail to stop Black and Goku will defeat him.
>veegta will fail
>goku will defeat black

I don't like it anymore than you, but its guaranteed. I'm telling you Super will not do anything other than play it extremely safe.

Good. Vegeta doesn't deserve to succeed ever. I'd throw Trunks a bone, but not Vegeta. But there's no way for Trunks to catch up now.

Thats literally how dragon ball has been since becoming dragon ball.

>Big bad shows up.
>Lots of training occurs.
>Characters job horribly against big bad, despite showing any signs of improvement.
>Goku has to save the day.

Literally only 1 single arc has ended with someone other than Goku saving the day

What arc was that? Would that be the Cell arc, where he had to handhold Gohan and even save everyone from Cell blowing himself up?

You're being to nice to Goku's friends. They usually job to the Big Bad's far, far inferior henchmen.

Use the catalog faggot.

BUMP

That scene felt better in the TV special.

That just looks like the usual autistic shitstorm on whether Goku or Chi-Chi is the worst parent. You can't really blame someone for assuming that there's no show discussion in there.

That retard always does that in every DB thread, just ignore him.

Yes, so technically, even then, though Gohan dealt the finishing blow, the day was saved by Goku, because of hand holding
Eh, not really, only Saiyan and Frieza saga's were like that. The rest have been due to the actual big bad.

How many if we forget "only canon counts" ?

As in like, the movies?

>that entire post
wew

Movies and filler

>faggots don't know that goku is literally the MC

time to get with it grandpas

>Eh, not really, only Saiyan and Frieza saga's were like that. The rest have been due to the actual big bad.
Since Dragon Ball was Dragon Ball? No. Krillin jobbed to Blue Shogun so hard that he chickened out for the entire arc. He later went on to get killed by fucking Tambourine. Tien lost to Drum too, after working so hard on mastering a move that he was never able to use. And before Krillin and Piccolo jobbed to Buu, they jobbed to Darbura.

Ok, prove me wrong faggot. Show me a single canon arc in DBZ or Super beside the Cell Saga where Goku wasnt the one who saved the day. I'll wait while you wiki it

Does Monaka defeating Hit count?

No, because Hit threw the match on purpose

>Show me a single canon arc in DBZ
Saiyan arc
Goku gets his shit pushed in by Great Ape Vegeta and has to be saved by Gohan,Kuririn and Yajirobe. Read the manga retard

But Goku had already lost. Even if Hit threw the match, Universe 7 would have lost without Monaka.

While true, Goku threw the fight thinking Monaka would squash Hit. Technically, nobody gets the win.

Goku threw the match also.
Correct. No one saved the day because it was a wash

>MC NEEDS TO BEAT EVERY BADDY

Toriyama tried to make Gohan the MC, but everyone fucking hated it.

Vegeta.

>No reply

Quit bitching

>The "muh Goku" myth.
>"I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part."
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Toriyama changed his mind. It's that simple.

Goku would have lost anyway. He said so himself. He completely exhausted himself with the SSB + Kaioken. Regardless of how Monaka won, he still won and U7 would have lost without him.

>Quit bitching
its wrong for me to want someone other than Goku to save the day?

Goku look so happy :)

Toriyama gave up on that idea when he realized Gohan would suck as a MC.

I find it interesting how in the manga it was pretty much said that Vegeta would have done well against Hit if he didn't try and be a nice guy in his previous fight. Yet the anime said nothing of the sort and just shit on him.

>its wrong for me to want someone other than Goku to save the day?
its wrong for you to act like that has never happened in the series

See Zamasu is literally in Goku's body. It's so obvious it's not even funny. Literally anybody could figure that shit out. It's not even a big surprise, nor will it be a big twist.

you mean that one time he didn't when he told Gohan to go full power?

that one time?

That's Goku.
Look at that panel, it's fucking Goku.

Well, the truth is he actually wouldn't have done well. Hit was presented as someone who was simply way out of their league. Even after Goku figured out the trick to beating his time skip ability, Hit just powered up. Goku had to go all out to the point where he was still feeling the effects days later and even that wasn't enough.

Not if they had recruited U7 Hit. Beerus was lazy as fuck and just had Goku recruit the entire team. While Vados actually seduc... scouted legitimately strong warriors.

How in the fuck would him being a nice guy in the previous fight change anything at all?

>that one time?
You're this retard huh?
How many times do you need to BTFO? The first arc of the series is Oolong saving the world from Pilaf.

Meant to reply

>Goku literally in the fucking image

Hahahaha

Read the chapter.

Oh, so they never actually said that and you're just trolling. Got it.

In the manga powering up to blue takes a lot of energy, the fact he did it twice in a row made him far weaker than if he only did it once.

>being this retarded
DBS threads are filled with retards

That's a hypothetical scenario. In the real one, they had Monaka. And if Goku had been their last member instead of Monaka, they would have lost. Monaka was also the one who defeated the slime monster. Granted, it wouldn't have been fast enough to save Vegeta without Goku, but Monaka landed the killing blow on the main body.

I'm not gonna spoonfeed you user.

no I'm not, Goku has beaten all the main baddies except Cell. but his words helped GOhan defeat cell

Ohh right, he did. Goku was able to take more hits, after all.

Whatever, kike.

I prefer this hairstyle over the one he currently has

Would you rather take a hard kick to the face from Goku, or eat a raw slice of Dodoria's ass?

Well either way your retarded. Read the manga

I have fucktard main villains only goku.

you're*

Clearly you haven't dumbass

do tell which main villain hasn't Goku beaten?

Didn't Trunks kill Freeza? Like, he's the one who actually got the killing blow.

Vegeta

Vegeta
Frieza
Cell

He provided the spirit bomb, and not only that, but mind-told his son to look at the moon.

So technically Gohan beat him as an ape, but that was only when Goku told him what to do. Kinda like with Cell, even.

>Beat
>not killed

>Goku dies of heart virus before fighting androids
>Is granted his body in the afterlife
>Does his training shit with North Kai etc encounters Zamasu at some point and the potara earings
>Zamasu promises him that if they potra fuse he can come back to life and go back to save Earth through the power of being a supreme kai (though Zamasu's real intentions are just to steal his power and wipe out life and human life all together as he secretly hates what he considers the "lower beings" basically he's the Hitler of the supreme kais.
>Goku potara fuses with him and becomes Black Goku not knowing Zamasu's real personality and intentions.
>Zamasu being the more powerful one (as Goku at the time didn't even achieve SSJ2) the fusion ends up being more him than Goku + he's a supreme kai.
>Goes to Earth like originally planned but finds the humans actually prospering due to Future Trunks kills androids and decides to wipe them out

It's either this or Zamasu somehow finds Goku's dead body but that idea seems less likely.

Still didn't beat him.

Pilaf - Oolong
Red Ribbon Army - Goku
Demon King Piccolo - Goku
Piccolo - Goku
Vegeta - Gohan
Frieza - Trunks
Cell - Gohan
Buu - Goku

Technically Gohan didn't beat Vegeta either, then. He was a brainless wild oozaru who still needed guidance from Goku to keep from killing them all.

>Grasping at straws
Gohan's body crushed Vegeta deal with it. Retard

so gravity beat Vegeta then.

Well then Vegeta and Cell. Goku couldn't beat Vegeta by himself, he had to have the help of Kuririn, Gohan and Yajorobi.

Screw you

>mind-told his son to look at the moon.

I like how the series just glosses over the fact that goku has psychic powers.

Ki, son. Ain't gotta explain shit.

He also read Krillin's memories.

So when are we getting some fanservice?

That could easily bite him really hard if he ends up getting a heart virus or disease in Goku's body and has to abandon it.

Is Zamasu the tamest villain of all the main villains? Wanting to exterminate one race seems less evil than wanting to destroy everything or rule over the universe forever.

He trained with Kami in DB and the Piccolo and Kami have psychic powers.

we already got best fan service of the arc

Freezer coming back as a robot cyborg felt more like bullshit filler than goku and piccolo driving cars.

literally the biggest, stupidest ass pull of the series.

How long till Future Trunks sacrifice himself to mend the timelines?

Fuck that scene where he cries just hit me right in the feels.

It existed to give a reason for cell being able to survive any injury, otherwise his regeneration ability would have made no sense and been phenomenally weaker.

Never. He'll have a happy end with Mai and Bulma serving dinner like his dream.

Well considering he's banging on of the hottest and literally the richest woman on the planet, and is the 2nd strongest earthling, I'd say you've already failed in your wish to see him never succeed.

It won't be Chichi or anyone else. it will probably just be shitty Bulma. Super only plays on things that characters are known for, and Bulma is the Slut of the group.

>some actually dying in DB
no Goku will take FTrunks to new namek and bring everyone back to life.

I wouldn't survive a hard kick to the face from Goku. I don't think any human could.

Choice is obvious. Kick to the face.

>don't think any human could.
Krillan did in episode 14 or 15

He will go back to his waifu and have kids. Maybe they can even find a way to resurrect Bulma and the people killed by Black.

>literally the biggest, stupidest ass pull of the series.
How?

Best Mom is dead, and Future Mai will soon be BLACKED

This isn't a sparring kick, goku just caught you murder chi chi, he's not holding back.

Just having "being strong" could explain him surviving any non-trivial attack. Other than that, I don't know--I mean the (real) androids coming out of stasis or whatever bitchslapped what was probably the strongest or at least tied for strongest character at the time. Who says Cell couldn't have been "designed" to be as strong as the androids but also given the DNA he was?

In the original time line Trunks found the blueprints of shutting down 17 and 18 and didn't need to become strong to beat them. In the long run this fucked him over and became easy prey for cell unlike the other Trunks we know from super that got strong and easily killed cell so the original time line cell and took the time machine and started the time line game of thrones. The Original time line is like the most fucked time line to date since majin buu ,goku black, and perhaps frieza fucking shit up in that time line no trunks to save it. Christ

That timeline is more of a disaster than my love life.

Majin Buu never awoke because gohan wasn't around to feed him his power.