Las Vegas Shooting Theory Thread!

Despite all the theories that have been hypothesized and are going around at this point, everybody seems to be missing a crucial detail...

His brother.

Everybody has been noticing that the shooter's brother has been acting "weird" in interviews. Everybody's been cooking up theories about him and saying "he was in on the shooting" and I think they're missing it. This isn't just an ordinary weird, this is a very particular "weird" that I happen to be familiar with.

The kind of "weird" that Eric Paddock shows in interviews is what happens from YEARS OF PSYCHEDELIC DRUG USE. There's no doubt that this guy has been smoking pot since he was a teenager and has tripped acid more than a few times. That's what's causing him to be "weird".

Why is this important? Haven't a lot of people tripped acid? Well, it's deeper than that.

For one thing, his dad was on the FBI's most wanted list, and for good reason. This was no ordinary guy, this guy did what most people could only dream of doing and got away with it for a lot of years while being hunted by the FBI. Not easy to do, the guy was a calculating genius. He was a con artist, a check forger, and a bank robber, but he got away with a lot of it. He even broke out of jail(who actually does that)! Almost nobody was as calculating and smooth as this guy, which is why he was MIA for almost 8 years before they caught him. That's not important, though. What's important is where he moved to and what he did.

cont.

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cbsnews.com/videos/the-brother-of-las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-speaks-for-a-second-time/
youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=yQzsA8-DK9E
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He was set up and someone else staying in another room on the same floor actually did all of the killing.

part 2.

Benjamin Hoskins Paddock was born in Wisconsin, served in WWII(so he had military experience) and eventually moved to Tucson, Arizona. After a series of crimes he was put in prison in Anthony, Texas from 1961 to 1968, when he escaped. Where is Anthony, Texas? Basically El Paso, which is only one boat ride across the Rio Grande to Mexico. In simple terms: If someone were involved in similar criminal activites in the West Texas/East Arizona area, a lot of those guys would have been caught and thrown into the exact same prison. This means that Benjamin Hoskins Paddock was bunked up next to and was communicating with a lot of other convicts from the southwest for a good 7 years before he left. And where did he go(keep in mind, he broke out in 1969, drug war started in 1968)? Eugene, Oregon; which in the late '60s was basically just a huge hippie town, still lots of drugs. And get this, he worked in a DRUG REHAB clinic for his job. He knew a lot of convicts from the west Texas/Arizona area that he could have kept in touch with, he moved to a gigantic hippie town when the psychedelic drug market was booming, and he worked for a drug rehab clinic there. Anyone connecting the dots? He wasn't just an escaped bank robber, he was undoubtedly part of a drug smuggling operation. And who was smuggling the drugs? Keep in mind this is before we had Black/Mexican gangs dealing drugs, they didn't exist. So who was in charge of the operation?

Like many other things at the time, THE MOB.

cont.

part 3.

Benjamin Hoskins Paddock probably had some sort of mafia connection related to the distribution of drugs in the area. Drugs came in from west Texas in kilos, they get shipped to different places around the U.S., Paddock gets them in Oregon and distributes them to people he knows. This would also explain why he was so good ar hiding from the FBI and creating fake aliases, that's what the mob is great at. The only thing about the mob is, once you're in, you're in. Your whole family, everybody you're close to, you don't get to choose, they choose you. During this time, Hoskins family is still living in Tucson, Arozona; very close to Mexico. There's almost no doubt in my mind that his whole family was involved in some type of mob organization. This would be the correct time frame as well. During 1978 when Benjamin Paddock was captured his boys would have been 24(Stephen), 20, 19, and 18(Eric). They would have been perfectly old enough to be involved in some type of operation if there was one, and they're living in Tucson, Arizona at the time which only makes them more suspect.

This would also explain the nature and methods of the shooter. How is it possible that nobody can find any information on him or what he did to be a multimillionaire(I mean really, nobody owns several planes and houses from being an auditor)? How could nobody have known that anything was ever going on? How could he be so secretive for so long where even his neighbors don't really know him? How can we STILL not find any motive or make any sense of how he got 22 guns to the 80th floor of a casino resort with seemingly no problem? When viewed from the perspective of if he "knows a guy" or had some special influence somehow it becomes more and more plausible.

cont,

part 4.

Now, I'm not saying that some mob organization helped carry it out, most of those guys that are still around are retired and old and just want to live a quiet life(Plus those guys only did it for money anyways, they wouldn't take anyone out without a good reason), but it's quite possible he still had connections.

This whole scenario perfectly explains both the methodical nature of Stephen and also the "weird" way that Eric reacted to the interview. At the time, the people distributing the drugs used a lot of the drugs themselves to test it(espectially psychedelics), they mostly fried their brains on coke. Also, the mob once basically controlled all of the casinos in the U.S.. This might explain Stephen's affection for high stakes gambling.

What do you think

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I don't think that there was 1 person doing all of the shooting. From the videos I've heard you can clearly hear that there are at least 2 guns going off at the same time, and it sounds like they were coming at different angles. Just listening to it I can tell something is definitely off. No way this was a 1 guy operation either way.

I still beleive ISIS.

Has anyone disproven it? The FBI quickly said no on day 1 but beyond that there has never been a detailed list of reasons not to suspect he got radicalized.

Motel 6 old white male in fatigues going into motorhome. That was reported as second shooter.

Brother said he likes driving around in his cheap motorhome.
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There is videos from the crowd of muzzle flash from his exact location, hard to see with all the light pollution and also he had a light on in his room, creates alot of noise. I've spotted it in 3 different videos and matches perfectly with the rounds. You need to navigate frame by frame to even noticed it, but it is there.

He does someone with no digital fingerprint get with ISIS?
No ISIS soldier just stops killing with tons of ammo left.
ISIS soldier wouldn't get spooked from hotel security. Especially with all his cameras

That would clear up the Lockheed Martin connection for Stephen. When I saw that he worked for Martin Marietta I knew that he had to be somehow wrapped up in some government agency somewhere, I guessed CIA and if that comment's true then that makes sense. I'm almost positive that Benjamin Paddock was involved in drug smuggling before that though, too many coincidences. Maybe the CIA is tied into the mob? That'd be consistent with MKUltra.

Crap propaganda. It's a Jew trying to point to Muslim radicalization so goys don't realize the shooter was Jewish.

I dont think he was a "solider" just someone they manipulated over 6 months. He is like the Orlandocshooter hut they did it in person (my theory).

Then you realize the (((mob))) isn't really Italian you'll make the connection.

His brother just became the worse mass murder in US history. You'd be acting weird too, you fucking knob.

In human history? Has anyone freaked out without a motive? Has anyone done it with planning for months like he did?

You have to start with the fact that this was planned. And the target matters then. I read reports that he scoped out other venues but i dont beleive that until i see the concrete evidence. If he did though, i still lean twoards ISIS.

It'd be impossible to disprove but I don't think ISIS is responsible personally. Stephen Paddock worked for the largest arms dealer in the U.S., that's not something to overlook. It's more likely a CIA or mob connection

This guy wasn't young and impressionable . He's an old man.
I don't even think his gook girlfriend could have done it in six months.
He was buying guns a year ago. Why if only radicalized last six months

Like trump they always say he's 70 you can't change him. Paddock no different

Old people can be manipulated. All those phone salesman make money off of old people who need someone to talk to. The "old people" cant be coerced meme needs to stop.

I manipulated my parents into beleiving pizzagate in 30 mins

Yeah but a lot of people get interviewed after a lot of natural disasters and don't act like Eric did. I've been around a lot of guys who act exactly like that, though, and it's caused by tripping acid and smoking pot when you're young. It's a certain confused/overwhelmed airheaded vibe that you get.

The brother theory falls short. It misses the key aspects of Stephen Paddock's life and the fact that the motive is self-evident.
Pat Robertson gave a very redpilled explanation of Stephen Paddock's motive on Hannity tonight.

Essentially, it's what I was saying from the start:
>He knew he was going to die, and he wanted to be remembered.
>He knew that by murdering so many people, he would instantly gain fame and infamy forever in the minds of the public.
>He was a coldly rational man, always calculating and motivated by personal factors, not political or ideological.
>Therefore he succeeded in death, because everyone now knows who he is and what he did.

Yeah.... seems legit.... Why wasn't he in the Tom Cruise movie that just came out dumbass?

Pfft

Think about it: Loner loser instantly becomes world famous, especially in America, with extreme notoriety and emotion attached to him.

He couldn't affect people and make friends by being a good person, so he ended his life by causing as much pain and negative emotion as possible, just as a way of being remembered and giving one last fuck-you to the world.

ISIS isn't involved so fuck off.

Keep looking into his brother and figure out where the money was going. Look into this "girlfriend" of his as well.

I didn't say the brother had anything to do with the shooting, that was the opposite of what I was saying

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Not ones who have led a secret life,a genius in mathematics and a millionaire many times over.
Senile old people who don't have enough money to live in yes

Sort of like how official reports said the cops killed him, but after the photos leaked the media acts like he always shot himself.

ISIS story is fake and Paddock isn't a real person, everything about him is fake and we need to focus on everything we can. We also need to look quickly for inconsistencies because even at this very moment, cover-up stories are being made to make this look more consistent.

Yeah maybe its not ISIS. No evidence is out there to disprove it and ISIS has only faslely taken credit for an attack once.

I will just trust the group that paid for a ridiculous dossier on Trump and then used it as an excuse to investigate him.

What happened to this board? FBI says no ISIS within 5 hours or something you know all they did was check his facebook and didnt see him ranting about allah.

>ISIS has only faslely taken credit for an attack once.

Give me the list of attacks they claimed that werent them.

The hurricanes was banter but if you want to list that go for it.

Exactly.

Stephen Craig Paddock. A 64 year old boomer, successful in every materialistic measurement: wealth, travel, luxury, tacit recognition. In any other circumstance one would have thought that this was a complete man: but in all of his pursuits he wanted something greater, something far more intangible in its worth: recognition.

Here was a man, an "evil genius" as Eric might say, who by all accounts was able to single handedly smuggle upwards of 20 firearms into an iconic Vegas hotel, and kill the most people in the shortest time in history. No military background. No ideological background. Nothing.

He was intelligent in the most twisted way imaginable: in the pursuit of a legacy, regardless of how immoral it was. That's why he left a cryptic note on the table: so he could be remembered, so that his case could be thought of for decades, in the general perception that there was some kind of grand conspiracy underpinning his actions. But there wasn't. There was only Steve.

Stop looking for connections to ISIS. Stop looking for connections to Antifa. Stop looking for his mental health issues. There are none, there will be none found. Because that is precisely what Steve wanted: a mystery. A mystery beyond all comprehension: a mystery scripted so as to endure in the human conscience for as long as his name is etched into the annals of history.

Sorry your family is inbred.

Your logic means I could call trump and manipulate him for all his money. Lol

You can't compare people that have different mentality and life experience. Paddock isn't the usual senior

All i said is that old people can easily be manipulated. They can. Easier than any other group besides women maybe.

Then you hallucinate and say you know the inner workings of how he thinks. If you know his thinking so well you should contact the FBI since you can disprove theories with your knowledge about his inner workings.

That would be a great persona to make up, someone with no motivations who worked at a job where nobody knew what he did and he was arbitrarily a millionaire. There definitely wouldn't be much to cover up.

You're right though, they're making cover-up stories as we speak. I'm not convinced that the guy never existed though, although I know that he supposedly has 2 brothers other than Eric and a 90 year old mother who we haven't seen yet. Time will tell.

FBI says they don't know anything. Bill boards are up all over Las Vegas.

One October is the name of the tragedy

Whatever he was, it's been days and we still don't know shit about him. Usually with an event like this we know intricate details about the man.

Mega-user said that they are trying to delay Trump. A lot of this shit might be half-assed for that very reason.

youtube.com/watch?v=YVHmshtmDqo&t=0s

anyone see this yet

What am I looking at?

where did Steve mess up? could he really have [easily] done more damage than 59/500?

I thought it was shocking the other say when the brother said "yeah the FBI still hasnt contacted me" this was like 5 days later.

Its either a coverup or the FBI solves crimes by only reading your facebook posts now.

This, and I say this as a white male.

Women now have equal opportunities, and do you know what? They're starting to out smart boys in school, look it up.

Meanwhile, the pathetic conservative HATES this as it diddles his fragile masculinity. Men are just jealous of women, and it just shows how they get all worried over her sexual experience. It intimidates men.

Meanwhile I live a laid back life

>Be me
>Canadian white male
>my doctor is Indian
>my nurse is Jamaican
>my boss is Spanish
>my car is German
>by favourite anime is Japanese
>my president is a typical dumb white American and republican male
>my shop clerk is Turkish
>my favourite food is Thai
>my favourite genre of music is Korean (kpop)
>my favourite coffee at Starbucks is Mexican
>my favourite beer is Cambodian
>my favourite politics is Russian ((((Marxism))) Leninism)
>my favourite tobacco is Cuban
>my favourite male pornhub star is Nigerian
>my favourite female pornhub star is Norwegian
>my avocado is Congolese
>my toast (bread) is French
>my favourite economic union is Belgian (EU)
>my wife is Colombian
>her son is half Muslim
>our adopted kids are Chinese
>my favourite language Danish
>my favourite clothing is Italian
>my favourite nation is Sweden

I have a diverse life with connections

And there's (You). You, being a backward and monoculture retard who faps over Mosley, Hitler, Mussolini, Drimpf, Cesar, Powell, and Farage, because you want these daddies to deport all non white people and opress your women. You're fucking sick, and you don't know what you're missing out on. You believe in backwards fascist conservatism, and you hate Muslims, women and LGBTQHTINS+ because they're happy, in the current year, and you live with backwards conservative and right wing ideals.

I'd hate to be a conservative fascist like you.

Some people seem to think the differing gunfire sounds indicate two shooters. It doesn't.
The dull thuds are the bullets exiting the gun.
The loud cracks are the bullets passing close by whoever is filming. The crack is a sonic boom.
If the bullets aren't near you, you don't hear the sonic crack, just the ejections from the rifle.
He was shooting all over the place, hence why you sometimes hear the crack and you sometimes only hear the dull gunfire, and it differs from video to video depending on the camera's location.
This is something you learn during basic military training.

>People will reply to this bait

oh gawd you're so fucking stupid. wrong. worse. you are lazy stupid fuck.

I knew I had that guy from somewhere

But to drive someone to those thoughts & aspirations he'd need to be a paranoid bi-polar schitzo, which I'm confident he was.

But if that were the case then it wouldn't explain the venue and calculation. If we assume it's true that he made reservations at other hotels for the same reason, then that means he CHOSE this concert specifically. Why choose a country music concert on LEVEL ground? Why not choose an ampitheatre or something that would be harder to get out of?

And why couldn't he get tracer rounds? We're really going to believe that he goes through all this calculation and planning for years to get the right venue and guns and he couldn't buy tracer rounds at the last minute because they were "sold out"? So then he just decided "fuck it" at that point and went anyways?

He knew it would be night time and that having a semi-auto rifle connected to a bump stock is going to cause a lot of recoil, obviously he would want tracer rounds, he wouldn't be able to see where he was shooting. Something doesn't add up.

>reasons not to suspect he got radicalized.
he shot himself.
this is like number 1 thing jihadists never do. they believe they go straight to hell for that shit.

failed to ignite aviation fuel tanks
several guns jammed
security officer distracted him and ruined his chances of escape
did not use a silencer (would have made the gunfire inaudible to concert goers)

The tracer bullets he had weren't so he could see where he was shooting......they were to blow up the fuel tanks and possibly to ignite the tannerite. Why doesn't anyone make this connection?

Yeah that does seem suspicious. Nobody knows anything about the guy it seems. Media writes it off because "he was just a quiet guy". I share your suspicion.

If this was a CIA thing then Trump is in on it, I don't know what they'd be delaying him for. I don't think anyone other than CIA and maybe Mossad could pull off something like this, and either way Trump would know.

Crap propaganda? Ok what ever you say. Its a jew! Its a jew! You're a lazy fuck.

A fair point. But i dont beleive he was a muslim convert. Just someone who was manipulated by them into doing it for some political reason.

>did not use a silencer (would have made the gunfire inaudible to concert goers)
no it wouldn't have.
if he had used subsonic ammunition and a suppressor it would have been inaudible, but you can't shoot at those ranges with subsonic ammunition.
most of you know nothing about ballistics and you all really need to shut the fuck up with your retarded theories.
the loud snaps are sonic cracks, caused by the bullets breaking the sound barrier, the dull bangs is the gunfire.

Is a gunshot to the body being hidden? Pic related.

He was using tracers? Why don't we see them in the videos?

FU spook!

Its obvious the press is lying.

Nobody is going to smuggle 23 guns into a god damn hotel room to commit a mass shooting.

Who the fuck is the brother?

We need info on him asap.

He said his brother only had a couple guns. Fbi says he was collecting guns for years.
So he is ether lying or he doesn't know his brother at all
Or the fbi is full of shit but they would have to fake the gun purchase records

Spot on analysis. I could tell 30 seconds into his interview he has done some doses in his day. That doesnt mean a whole lot, lots of people have, especially that generation. The organized crime thing you can guess at by the way he talked, what he didnt say, and especially the comment about he never got caught because he always hung around someone dumber who did get caught. As to laundering money, if he was a pro poker player, he would be known, we would have heard from other poker players by now. If he claims to have significant income from any other game, he was lying

This is exactly right. -John.

Well the police found a charger in the room that didn't belong to any of Stephens phones. This gon be guuuud.

Thats a fun computer generated image.
Whats it for?

I think we are into some Metal Gear Solid levels of insane here, and (((they))) needed a distraction, and this guy was the distraction.

If he's real, he was a quiet guy who is known for being rich and gambling? That sounds like a cover for a hitman or an assassin, or someone who does strange work at the very least. Likely illegitimate work.

What information do we have on Marylou? Did he really go to the Middle East at all? What was his ties to the Philippines and Australia?

All i can assume so far is that he doesnt work at Taco Bell and enjoys japanese fusion. Beyond that he is a total shadow, a ghost if you will.

spook

hands up! if this made for tv movie was real there would be so many lawsuits, muzzle sweeping non-combattants could give someone a heart attack, and all for a VIP, even the president doesn't get that treatment,
hoax

youtube.com/watch?v=ZkpTRYhFN9c

Here

cbsnews.com/videos/the-brother-of-las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-speaks-for-a-second-time/

This is the brother

>If this was a CIA thing then Trump is in on it

Huh? Who do you think CIA works for? Surely not the POTUS.

>Mossad
>Trump would know
>Mossad

Are you one of those people who unironically think Israel is an ally?

I think that blood spot on his shirt is where the gun landed when he shot himself, he was probably sitting up at a 90 degree angle to get the blood and the wrinkle on his shirt. Gun shot down with blood into his chest as he was falling and caused that impression.

Obviously we'd have to see his whole body before we can decide whether or not they're covering something up. I don't see what difference it makes whether he shot himself or police shot him though.

I guess while he was prepared to commit murder and suicide, he didn't really prepare correctly. Probably because he wasn't really thinking and doesn't know what he was doing. Most murders and suicides are to some degree planned. Gotta get the rope up/gun ready, maybe a note or other preparations, wait for the right time, then set things in motion.

checked

The guy has money.
Hes not fucking retarded.
Hes not going to make half a dozen trips up an elevator with two duffel bags full of guns.

One has to recognize that no wealthy person brags about their wealth unless they have criminal power. It is considered the height of tackiness otherwise.
Stephen's brother is a rube.

He checked in with 10 bags

Media said the tannerite was found in his car along with some sort of catalyst(aluminum phosphate?). That would make more sense though, they did report that he was targeting the fuel tanks so if he had the tannerite there that would make sense.

I thought he couldn't get tracers though? I don't see any in any of the videos.

The release video of him and bags. With his key card it even take thay long to get every single tape of him putting bags in his room.

Thats why I think there is something going on. Its almost like the LVPD and FBI are ecouraging the conspiracy theories with being coy and not releasing more details.

>r3owners.net/members/teraeric.4611/

But that doesn't make any god damn sense. Who just leaves 20 guns lying around their god damn hotel room?

Well sheeittttttt..... do you think it could be that chick who warned people before the shooting?

if your intention is to kill as many concert goers as possible from an elevated static position then bringing 23 guns is a good idea. He doesn't need to reload. He doesn't need to worry about stoppages or rounds in the breach. Just grab a fresh rifle.
I'm sure this was his reasoning.
And i'm sure he was intending to carry on shooting for longer, but the security guard spooked him, or he found it wasn't as satisfying as he thought it was going to be.

>YEARS OF PSYCHEDELIC DRUG USE

I'll just leave this here.

hotels don't look inside your bags.
especially not if you're a high roller in a comped room.

Maybe he planned to sell them?

who do you think this guy is....high roller?

so weird,wonder what's in the bag

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=yQzsA8-DK9E

THATS NOT THE FUCKING POINT

He was probably planning to use them later

how is that not the point?

I will, for the moment, ignore the stupidity of your comment in order to prevent myself from having an annuerism, but would suggest you slap yourself for having said it, then proceed to sit in a corner and think about what you have done.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH 20 GUNS THAT YOU CAN'T DO WITH 2 OR 3?!?

That's what I'm thinking too, that's why the mob connection makes sense to me. You don't become a multimillionaire by auditing people and gambling. I think his family is tied into the mob.

Interesting fact about Marilou, her ex-husband that she divorced 20 years ago lives right next to me. People have been sending him death threats. Marilou claims he was "abusive", she has good taste in men.

No clue on the Philippines tie, that one threw me for a loop. I'm open to ideas.

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No I'm just saying if George W. Bush knew about 9/11(which he did) then there's a good chance Trump knew about it so he knew his part to play. Trump has already given into the neocons and zionists so there's no point in keeping it a secret from him.

She's tied to Israel somehow. Another user was saying that the 12 "unaccounted for" Israelis are somehow linked to this, but I don't know how much credence I'd swear by that. However, I read an article that also ties Sheldon Adelson, the man -john warned us about, to Israeli interests.

>washingtonexaminer.com/trump-sheldon-adelson-talked-las-vegas-shooting-policy-at-white-house-meeting-monday/article/2636405

Is the guy filming a fucking youtube channel during his mass shooting? Is he fucking describing the drawbacks and quirks of his assault rifle versus his sniper rifle? Is he fucking disassembling them and giving a youtube tutorial on care and maintenance?

I wonder if he reflected on what he had done AT ALL? like he had no way of knowing how many he hit or killed from so far away, you know. I wonder if there was a "omg what have I done" moment before swallowing a bullet

>bringing 23 guns is a good idea.
what planet do you live on?