Overanimation

An anime should have focus on what it's doing, everything that is animated on screen should have relevance to the story at hand.

Anime with lots of talking like Hyouka has a lot of pointless animation and moments, like the scene where they keep changing rooms while discussing things in Chitanda's house, I read that was added in the anime so as not to make the discussion monotonous, but by doing so it stops the viewers from being engaged with the discussion.

Reconguista in G does more than overanimation, it also does overacting with everyone going "EEEEEEEH" whenever something happens, there's always something being animated in the background while characters are talking, there's too many characters doing pointless things or saying pointless lines, not contributing to the plot, as if going "Look at me, I'm so quirky.", like Steer for example, who responds in English for some random reason instead of Japanese like everyone else.

People try to argue that it's "Fun" but it really isn't it detracts attention from the plot, something people should actually be paying attention to, nothing should be animated beyond what's necessary for the story to unfold.

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The universe shouldn't revolve solely around the plot. You need viewers to feel connected to the whole story's world and not just the current drama.

>People try to argue that it's "Fun" but it really isn't it
Sup Forums- The post

Then the director should give a reason for the viewers to care for the characters or world instead of having them do quirky things just because.

These quirks are are reasons. My post was originally about the background animations though.

Then it's wasting resources "just because".

It's not like you need to know every one of a ship's crew, Zeta Gundam does well enough only having the pilots and captain of the ship react to things while the ship crew just functions out of view.

>ADHD kid who think a 10 minutes talking head is the pinnacle of animation.

>Reconguista in G does more than overanimation, it also does overacting with everyone going "EEEEEEEH" whenever something happens,
That literally does not happen. Like, ever. There's a scene where Bellri grabs his girlfriend's ass and she just pushes his hand away instead of shouting at or slapping him.
>there's always something being animated in the background while characters are talking,
Sorry you hate being engaged, user.
>there's too many characters doing pointless things or saying pointless lines, not contributing to the plot, as if going "Look at me, I'm so quirky.",
Not everything needs to be directly related to the plot, user. It's called worldbuilding.
>like Steer for example, who responds in English for some random reason instead of Japanese like everyone else.
That's actually really common in anime. I actually thought her English was superb.

I just think it helps that whole atmosphere.

>There's a scene where Bellri grabs his girlfriend's ass and she just pushes his hand away instead of shouting at or slapping him.
Do you have a webm or do I actually have to watch G-reco?

>forced animation
>over animation
>pretentious art style

Why does Sup Forums know nothing about animation?

This post is worse than the average shitpost.

People praise Tatami Galaxy as if it's the second coming but really, at it's climax, Tatami Galaxy was incredibly disappointing as it fails to explain why the central plot happens at all.

Why was the main character suddenly stuck in the tatami rooms and capable of traveling between alternate universes?
No explanation is given, we're just supposed to accept that's that.

An adapted work from the same author does this even worse, Uchoten Kazoku.
We're given the absurd setting where humans eat Tanuki, despite Tanuki being intelligent.
The show does not give any explanation as to why humans eat tanuki, does not give any reason why we should care about the tanuki nor any character.
Benten can fly for some reason despite being completely human.
The show has no plot, it's character driven, every character just talk about themselves as the story goes on and fails to engage the viewers.

youtu.be/zYDunqZIuJI?t=14m55s

I don't have the webm, sorry. Try asking /wsg/.

And G-Reco is a good series.

>You need viewers to feel connected
Funny, since this is often where Tomino shows fail

The reason the central plot of Tatami Galaxy happens is because Watashi is displeased with his experience in college. The sequence in the finale where he walks between his different tatami rooms is to show him that he really had no reason to be displeased with those experiences and that he should just continue on with his life and stop wallowing in his stupid ideal.

But it doesn't make any sense within the story as to why he is suddenly thrown into a magical cage of tatami rooms when the previous episodes had him go through his life normally or non magically.

Just for you.

The whole show revolves around him magically going back in time. It's reasonable enough that other weird magic crap could occur as well. It's even foreshadowed earlier in the show, though admittedly that foreshadowing is both incredibly confusing and nigh on completely nonsensical on your first time through.

>I actually thought her English was superb
Her VA is a japanese-australian.

You might be retarded if a mecha clapping distracts you from the plot. It just adds to the fun.

You expect too much. Shit like your pic related is only made to sell toys.

>fun
There's that word again.
It's the word people go to when they can't say anything else about the show.

Stop replying to yourself OP.

Are you really unable to understand the concept of fun? Or even context in that case.

It's not though, Build Fighters was made to sell toys and it had passion.
G-Reco was Tomino trying to send out the same message he gave in Turn A Gundam.
"War is bad, kill people who wants war."

>I am a retard that can't pay attention to more than one moving thing at once
How are you not run over when going to the convenience store?

>overanimation

Almost all anime is only made for advertising

>whenever something happens, there's always something being animated in the background while characters are talking, there's too many characters doing pointless things or saying pointless lines, not contributing to the plot


That's done with the intention of making it look more real, in reality people don't just stand still talking. They many times talk while moving or doing other tasks. Sometimes people not in the conversation might be in the same room as the ones talking but focusing on something else.

>Tomino
>giving a shit about mechandise
Yeah he loved it so much he actively sabotaged Victory by asking concept artists for Victory to make the dumbest MS and MA designs possible to spite Bandai for axing F91 and is even recorded telling people not to waste their money on Victory Gundam.

He made G-Reco because he wanted to have fun. Also:

>toys
>midnight slot run and air time

Tomino's message in G-Reco isn't about "war being bad" though.

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Is this bait? Are there really autists who can't focus on more then one thing at time in this day and age?

Yeah that was a cool scene.

>forced animation meme
kys

Raraiya killing off a ship means two things, the crew of that ship makes light of war and must be stopped(like how Kamille is 100% that Scirocco has to die for the war to stop) and that Aida can't be the one to do it because she's Amerian royalty.

>kys
No, you kill yourself.

The main message in G-Reco was about contolism.

>tl;dr I am a literal retard and everything should be lowered to a standard I can follow
Maybe you should try some website more easy on the eyes, OP. Here, try this: ndss.org/

More like how Deikum was a deluded fuck.

>G-reco wasn't focused on mecha fights
>still had better action than IBO at more frequent intervals
I'm gonna make Okada pay for IBO, someday.

I still don't understand one thing and that's the difference between the Capital Guard vs the Capital Army.

You should bitch more that GBF Try was less QUALITY then IBO. Try had the second and third stringer animators and newer studios at Sunrise doing Try while Tomino got all the money and budget and the best of Sunrise's animation teams for G-Reco.

Also Okada just does writing, not directing or producing or anything heading the show. Someone post QUALITY Atra.

They were just different branches, Capital Army was the newer of the two.

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Atra a qt though.

Its more embarassing at the fact Try got the shitty studio doing it and still looks better while IBO's animation director is really the main problem though I think their main guys are focusing on Love Live Sunshine.

The Capital Guard were the OG SU-Cordists. Think of them like the Titans, as an example (although they're not anything at all like the Titans). The Capital Army was set up as a supplementary force, think the AEUG (even though they were headed by the villain).

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Capital Guard only maintains and protect the capital tower, they abide by SU-Cord taboos, they're an established institution with proper training.

Capital Army are a bunch of start up fucks, undisciplined and with a thirst for war and more weapons, people speculate this is Tomino doing a criticism of modern right-wing Japan who are leaning towards a more militaristic society, being unfamiliar with war but eager to get into it.

Guard = Londo Bell or ECOAS; basically an elite task force
Army = ESF or rather the regular military

More divided around SU coridsm stuff mainly hence the rivalry between the two.

C U T E !

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>forced animation
You can try harder next time.

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IBO BDs are looking good.

Guy guys how come you don't realize this?

Having a "Goodbye everyone! It was fun while it lasted, but it's high time we move on." final message wasn't enough to dissuade Bandai so Tomino made G-reco as way of saying

>You wanted my Gundam this is what you get open wide bitch!
>Now don't bother me.

It's all intentional there is no point in criticising.

it's the difference between citizen militia and an army

[Black History starts playing in the background]

Capital Guard
As the name implies its a glorified police/bodyguard squad where its main task is to maintain peace and protect the Capital Tower and Capital Territories.

Capital Army however was headed by this Mofo who using intrigue and Earthling fear of the unknown to justify the creation of Capital Army who is an Army where its influence went outside from the Capital Borders

Tl;dr
Capital Guard is JSDF,
Capital Army is IJA
The Unknown is Chinese

The proper term is forced animation.

>The Unknown are the Russians
Fixed for you.

>Russians
I thought the Japanese re-armament program was to counter Chinese influence over South China Sea Islands?

Also an excuse to nut up because of Kuril Islands dispute with Russia and Dokodo Islands with South Korea.

Revenge for Nagasaki and Hiroshima when.

I don't think Nips are dumb enough to want to polarize its relationship with the US when dealing with the fact every single neighbor they have hates them.

It's quite sad that, not only Tomino's final Gundam was lackluster in comparison, but it will be remembered by the shitposting surrounding it, rather than the show itself.

>forced animation thread becomes g-reco thread
Sasuga grecotards.

(You)

They're just desperate

and everywhere

Like hungry cockroaches

What is with the G-Reco threads recently?
It is like we have one every day.

Age of Neesans

>Whiny bitch useless sister keeps crying "MUH CAHILL"
>Bellri didn't even fuck her at the end

Age of Neesans my ass

> it fails to explain why the central plot happens at all.

Why are you people always so obsessed with the mechanical details? Seriously who the fuck cares about those? You're missing the point.

I guess this is what happens with the generation raised on all the bullshit light novels that spend two thirds of their material on the never-fucking-ending exposition vomit about their boring ass magic systems and school rules because they literally have nothing else to say.

>Aida
>whinny bitch
You didn't watch the show after episode 3 did you?

Learn to read, fucktard

It was hilarious seeing the contrast on Sup Forums vs /m/ with the G-Reco threads.

>Sup Forums
>complaining about too many characters
>plot not being spoonfed into their brains
>requiring constant exposition or it gets "too complicated"
I bet every single detractor of G-Reco is probably born after 1997.

The only time overanimation is bad is when the show spends more time on expressing the animation than then telling the plot and setting up the characters

I did.

Then Utena.
There was a thread where the discussion led to the consensus that the show repeated animated segments as a necessity for symbolization, it spends a significant amount of time using animations shown many times before.

Is that bad?

Capital Guard would basically be like the JSDF, only there for defense at least on paper. Capital Army would be like a force that doesn't need "defense" to act.

That's one thing I noticed about the so-called hardcore fans.Sure, having a good setting/ believable verse to immerse in is important, but often these fans seem to obsess over the most minute of details and yet completely fail to understand the most basic of the story's concept. They'll keep nitpicking or wanting to know about all the little things all while ignoring the story or concept that the author may want to tell or when said details don't even matter to the story.

At some point, I wonder why these people even bother watching a show at all instead of reading a history textbook or some other technical manual since the story don't seem to matter much to them. By the end of the day, the setting is meant to complement or act as vehicles for the story/characters/ plot to be delivered. Having the most accurate and detailed setting alone does nothing if you don't actually back it up with proper story.

I wonder what happened to Turn A in the time between the ending and the start of G-Reco.

Wait, wasn't it destroyed alongside Turn X in the final fight?

Not sure if it destroyed or sucked out to another dimension because moonlight butterfly clashing, maybe Gym will make something out of them to spend his time in limbo.

People like to pick on Okada, because she's the biggest name involved.
However the director had the reputation of being a huge hack long before that:
toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Cloverfield

Seems like anybody could have written IBO and it would have turned out a disappointment with him on the helm.

Did someone say overanimation shit?

Is manga overanimated?

That's true, but to be fair nothing you can really do if the script is shit to begin with.
Remember this? This is what you get when you pair the director behind Shirobako and Girls & Panzer with Okada as the writer.

Mob 100 is not overanimation, its tryhard animation - too many smears, distortions and off-key stuff trying to emulate shitty drawing of the author.

OPM had Murata`s great drawings and in anime looked as good. Mob just look like scribbles.

I for one, welcome our Overanimating overlords

youtube.com/watch?v=gE7R3qNGdNA

Wasn't Mayoiga a manga before? It's not an original screenplay by Okada.

No, its original project, Manga was released at same time, with different story based on anime story too.

Its not Okada`s though - Mizushima came up with the story and characters, and Okada just did the script for anime.

Okada`s original of that season was Kiznaiver

Yeah, that sucked too.
So there you go.

You're right.

Yeah it's almost as bad as forced animation

What are some good examples of underanimation? I imagine older anime would have those, like 50s-60s anime.

Dai-Shogun

Yeah, stick it to those plebs, enjoying their entertainment and all

I disagree entirely.
These people are working in an audio visual medium. Not animating something during long scenes of any sort of dialogue is just missing an opportunity, and breaking away from the animation of a few lips flapping and heads bobbing is just about the best thing you can do to keep viewers engaged.

Imagery can tell a story just as well as wording can, and not using both would be mediocre at best. We don't need to see characters having a conversation, we just need to see the players there to have said conversation, and the imagery that follows can enhance it, it can recontextualize it, it can expand on something completely different, or it can just make the viewers more engaged in keeping their eyes on the screen or feeling like the world itself is alive.

You mentioned Hyouka's room changing as an example, but the reason why you're wrong is because you think it disengages the viewer when, in fact, it engages them moreso than a long drawn out conversation would, which is why it was added in. Showing the rooms of a home is a good way to make a place feel comfortable, or even reflect that the characters feel comfortable or welcomed in that area with each other.
Just showing them talking would be fucking stupid. That works for a book because it would be extraneous to write descriptions of a scene where they constantly switch rooms, instead of just writing the conversation, but for an animation, the ability to do that is a bonus, not a drawback.

I think it's biggest failing isthat the animation style they went for so immitate ONE's is shit, and the material just isn't funny.

The characters are too hyperbolic, but somehow the situations are nowhere near absurd enough to justify it.