When did it become embedded in the subconscious that its the governments job to protect you?

When did it become embedded in the subconscious that its the governments job to protect you?

Ive been noticing recently while listening to talk radio that many of the most hardened constitutionalist keep mentioning this. For example they will say something like, Blah blah, guy shot some people, yatta yatta government failed to protect us. Or Some guy ran over some people, yadda yadda, barriers, something something, they could protect the citizens better. Now these guys know its not the governments job to protect you but its still there, in their subconscious. The government is charged with protecting a few things, our borders, continuity and the constitution. Its not their job to protect you, thats your job. Its not the polices job to protect you, its their job to enforce our laws.

So this must be some sort of programming but I dont now what the source is. I think it must be TV because this thing started recently and I have not watched TV in over a decade.

Because it is the governments job to protect you dumbass. That's why its the guberments job to create and maintain an army and police force no matter how far you go back in world history. It's one of the few good reasons for taxes. Now please stop being a lolbetard and grow a brain.

The purpose of an army is to protect your boarders.

>The purpose of an army is to protect your boarders.

For the longest time it hasn't been to protect your borders, mainly do to it's impossibility and borders being more like guide lines than actual set in stone things. Not to mention that land on it's own is fucking useless and you need people to get any worth out of it.

You two are fucking retarded. OP's right in that this is an issue of personal responsibility and all, and while a government of some form and some sort of police/army force is necessary for both foreign and domestic engagements, this isn't something that could've been solved that easily.

From the doctrines of divine right to social contract and anything else in between, before and after it has been the governments job to protect you, only points of difference is weather or not you should also protect yourself and if you also must also protect yourself. Stuff like in most medieval kingdoms you were required to not only own a weapon but be proficient in it.

Its the governments job to make and enforce the law. If it was the governments job to protect me, I would expect their drones to jump in front of bullets for me. Perhaps in a Monarchy its the governments job to protect the commoners in exchange for their obedience. But not in a Republic.

>Its the governments job to make and enforce the law.
Governments and their armies and police forces predate the written law in many cases. And it's not the army's job to enforce the law.

>But not in a Republic.

Almost all republics have similar laws and organizations to monarchies, only difference is how power is acquired and distributed.

And that power distribution makes all the difference. Protection for obedience or protect your self and be free. And monarchies usually fall when they stop doing that job.

Its the Armys job to enforce the boarder in whatever capacity that requires of them. Its also the Army's job to enforce the law when lawbreaking becomes a large enough issue, such as entire states deciding they dont feel like paying taxes anymore, which is why its the executive branch that runs the army and its also their job to enforce the law. As its not normally required of them to beat down confederates, the boarder is their primary job. And providing me an armed escort is not one of their jobs either.

This thread literally belongs in Sup Forums. You're not even discussing any gun legislation or anything, just ranting about ideologies and economy shit

You never heard of the second amendment? You European or something?

see the 2nd sticky

>Protection for obedience or protect your self and be free
Except that is mostly bull crap. Even when taking the US as an example, it was also the duty of the local guberment if not the federal guberment to protect you. The only real difference between the US and other republics that existed around it's formation was the fact that the US was a federation and the States had more power than the federal side up until the Civil War.

>Its the Armys job to enforce the boarder
No it's not, the Army doesn't even manage the border guards. The Army's job is to fend off attackers and attack when need be so as to protect the nation and by extent the people.

>And providing me an armed escort is not one of their jobs either.
You seem to have gotten into your head that the only way an Army can protect you is by baby sitting you. Or you are simply trying to force a strawman. The way an army protects you is by stopping foreign threats.

>The purpose of an army is to protect your boarders.

Maybe tell the US Army that, since 30 million spics just walked across and refused to leave. Military are all cucks. They allowed an invasion to happen under their watch.

The government is inept, uselsss for their stated purpose, they morphed into a tax eating entity and will never be an honest government again.

Do you really need to quote every line? Im sure I can remember what I wrote. If you have ADD perhaps go take your ADD pills do I dont have to see your shitty format.


No, its not the polices job to protect you. Its actually been taken to court and found not true.

I didnt say manage them, I said protect them. As we have no formal threat from any armys at the moment, they dont need to manage our physical boarders. But every time they are sent in to destroy a 3rd world country, they are protecting out boarders proactively.

They are not protecting me, they are protecting the country, which boils down to protecting our boarders.

but what if a politician says you need a gun
it should be to stop other army's or roving bands of bandits

No, It's not.
Do you even read what the gov has written about you, guys?
You're dangerous, they gave themselves all the reason to kill you if you oppose them.
USA Citizens are enemies of USA

So people could just helicopter over and rampage through your country and the army wouldn't do shit because 'hurr its not the borders' You're a fucking moron, even by your own logic, why defend borders? Because the people inside those borders.

Also why the FUCK am i seeing so many illiterate weasels saying 'boarders' lately? It's like the most common misspelling i see around here.

*because the (((people))) inside those borders

So what's your logic, jews use people as slaves to give them power? Even in that scenario the Army serves a dual purpose of protecting the investment (the people) of their overlords as well as serving to quell them should they rebel.

Mental fucking midget.

Armies are just chess pieces.
All is decided by the flip of a coin.
People serve not purpose except for taking out foreign countries' leaders.

And certain chess pieces protect other chess pieces you god damned narconigger.

Cut it with your psuedo intellectual memery and realize the context of the thread, my posts and this entire discussion is the concept of armies and governments and their roles in the larger society and development of mankind. Are you suggesting that every society and government that has ever fielded a standing army are jews? No wonder your country is such a god damned shithole if you're so fucking retarded.

>And certain chess pieces protect other chess pieces you god damned narconigger
Wrong. People are not considered pieces, groups are (BLM, LGBT, Churches)
>inb4 people are a group
Look, People, common people, are not a piece of the game but a conditional.
For the sake of dick contest.

OOh, by the way; almost the rest of your post is meaningless ad homiNEN.
>Muh Jews
There are more than just jews
>no wonder your country
Such imprudent.
My country is the example that proves my posts.
Just accept it, man.
They don't really care about you.
Are you hungry?
Are you sleepy?
Lucky you.

The government can protect you, but that's not its sole function and it cannot take your natural right of self-defense.