How is it possible that you screw up saving the world with time manipulation ability? Just rewind time until you win

How is it possible that you screw up saving the world with time manipulation ability? Just rewind time until you win.

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Every time she did Madoka got stronger. At some point Homura would have lost control and Madoka's wish would have destroyed everything before she could go back. She couldn't risk any more resets.

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If anything she's lucky she never screwed up and got killed by some witch before reaching the final timeline.

This.

There were so many time loops she had to go through I'm sure that Madoka died to witches in a few of them along the way.

That was only really a threat in the early timelines, but there she was still working with the others. Once she kills the one she loves for love, and goes full homu, she's not going to lose to a witch short of Walmart night.

Prime example

That begs the question, how did Mami lose her head in an easy fight when she's stronger than Homu?

She didn't have her head in the game. Seriously, she was showing off to Meduka and Seyiku and as a result let her guard down against Charlotte.

She never reached 1%

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Can someone explain why Mummy and Baby are best buds in the movie even though Baby killed her in episode 3? Also what's the deal with Homolilly, is she a witch or a demon?

I wouldn't say she's stronger than Homu. Homura is the strongest magical girl if she's allowed to prepare beforehand. Also remember that she knew pretty much every witch from earlier timelines, so she could prepare very well for them.

You're probably trolling, but I'll explain it anyway.

Homura subconsciously rewrote the memories of everyone who entered her barrier, in order to creater her ideal world. She knew that Mami struggled with loneliness, so she assigned Bebe to be her partner. Charlotte, the witch that killed Mami in episode 3, is the witch form of Nagisa. Bebe was no longer an actual witch after beeing saved by Madoka, although she could still use her witch form for some reason. By the way, since Madoka rewrote the universe, Mami being killed by a witch never happened in the new timeline.

Homulilly is the witch form of Homura. She deliberately turned to a witch in order to protect Madoka from the incubators. But she was saved by Madoka, reverting the witch transformation. Once she broke out of the isolation field, she became Demon Homura, which is different from Homulilly. There are still some obvious similarities between the 2 though. The thing that Homura spread across the universe resembles a witch barrier and she still has her familiars.

What was it like on Sup Forums when this show first aired? Did everyone talk about it a lot like they do with Re:Zero nowadays?

Madoka towards the final half was talked about a lot more than Re:Zero. Same thing with Rebellion. The entire catalog was filled with Madoka threads, pretty much.

Re:zero is a meme show, the only somewhat intelligent commentary are people complaining about how shit it is or how lame Subaru is. Madoka actually had serious proactive discussions.

Because it's literally impossible to win.

Walpurgisnacht was too stronk.

Mumi easily trashed Homu.

Mami wins if Homura can't use her time stop ability. Homura wins if she can.

Because Homura could not use her timestop ability since Mami had her bound from the start; not to mention Homura was holding back. Reminder that Homura has anti-ship missiles in her arsenal.

Mami countered Homu's time stop.

Mami was holding back as well. She was trying to protect Bebe.

Mami managed to counter Homu's time stop, so she won. It's nothing she could possibly do at all times in every situation, and her being able to counter Homu doesn't help her one bit against witches, whereas Homu can use her time stop ability to its fullest against witches.

also when madoka was airing the fukushima shit happened right when things were reaching maximum hype. all sorts of chaos.

She could only counter because she struck first.

I'm aware Mami was holding back; my point is that Homura has a more powerful arsenal.

my point is that Mami still shits all over homu.
best thing homu can do is force a draw or run away.
both are pointless.

>believing in gravity
pfft

Except you have no substantial evidence to make that point.

Except for Mami beating Homu in a fight.

Reminder that orgasms overcome entropy

>X defeated Y therefore X is stronger than Y

Are you that simpleminded so as to dismiss all other facts?

jeez user, at least spoiler that shit

>Q: Aside of Madoka's goddess form, rank the magical girls by their power.
>A: Mami > Kyouko > Sayaka. It depends really on the situation though, while Mami is really strong she goes down easily when she doesn't pay attention. Homura is the strongest when no one finds out how she uses her powers.

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Well it was going fine until she had a great idea of gloating to the psychopath weasel

In the real world, Mami is pretty weak. Dies to Charlotte, dies to Walmart before the rookie Madoka does, gets mind broken by loneliness and the truth of magical girl. She's a subversion of the magical girl trope of strong sempai.

It's only in Homura's fan service labyrinth that Mami has decent power or stability, and it's not even her own. The Homura vs Mami fight is pretty much Homura trying to defeat her own subconscious, it's like Homura vs the labyrinth. This explains why Mami is perfectly mirror countering Homura before the fight and throughout the fight. Even when Homura does something crazy to technically win, Mami just turned out to be a witch doll that traps Homura with a million ribbons

TL;DR: Mami is a troubled girl who loses her head.

Kek what a load of bullshit. There's clear power ratings and the fight wasn't a metaphor you sperg.

>rookie Madoka
Madoka killed Walpurgis even in first timeline. She was far stronger than Mami there. Take your bullshit power level charts away.

Devil Homura > Bowmura > Madokami > pregod Madoka's > normal Madoka > last timeline Homura > Mami = Kyouko > Sayaka

This x 10. Great way to fuck things up right at the end.
But hey, at least we got the cake song out of it.

Probably the only logical power chart from this threads.

Kek what a load of bullshit. There's clear power ratings and the fight wasn't a metaphor you sperg.

>Mumi easily trashed Homu.
Mami BARELY beats Homura with Homura not even using her time stop. They are 50:50 without Homura even using her trump card. Homura trashes Mami.

>There's clear power ratings
It's bullshit by itself and makes no sense at all.

>Trusting some faggot's opinion over actual evidence
Confirmed faggot here guys.

>Some faggot's opinion

You mean Urobuchi Gen, the writer of the series?

mami shut down the time stop herself and she was clearly dominating the fight the entire time while fighting with several severe handicaps.

>You mean Urobuchi Gen
Yes.

Except no. Consider the fact that Mami survived on her own for years as a magical girl. And most importantly, she was able to do so without compromising her values - she fought both familiars and witches, rather than Kyouko's more common survival-of-the-fittest strategy. QB confirms that she is more talented than Sayaka. Her death to Charlotte was due to being distracted and overconfident.

>dies to Walmart before the rookie Madoka does
We didn't even see what happened so using this as evidence is dumb. Maybe Mami was a bigger threat so she got taken out first, maybe she died protecting Madoka and Homura, who knows.