Calling all New Englanders (encompassing the thirteen colonies, southern nova scotia new brunswick and PEI) , Northern Nova Scotians, Newfoundlanders (respectively, English, Scottish, Irish). We are the last bastion of TRUE unblemished British culture.
Pledge allegiance to the cause and our declarations.
Few Canadians would ever want to join with New England. While I enjoy some of their similar culture when I visit, they still have the same personality as the rest of Americans, and I believe those states are less white than the provinces of Eastern Canada.
Go back to your original idea, flag maker.
Atlantic Canadian union, then?
Nice idea, but leave out the Americans.
They're too patriotic to multiculturalism.
There could be some New Englanders who are loyal to a British cause.
Yes, although I doubt that will ever have much support either. We are effectively setting our regional culture on fire and becoming bland run of the mill Canadians who identity more with Tim Hortons than seafaring, farming, and mining.
I wish I had your hopefulness. I don't.
Well what I want to see happen is essentially a free-state, or a voluntary state; that even the right to govern is given to all individuals. Even the right to aggression would exist. The main thing is that we must pledge a loyalty to the nation, though we ought not to be regulated, we must abide by good intentions
Very quickly your one state would keep fragmenting into other governments. Nova Scotia would probably want to break off because of their economic powers, Cape Breton would break off because 'muh island culture', the French areas in the southern tip of Nova Scotia would want to leave as well to protect their interests. So it goes. Most governments operate on grabbing as much area as possible and offering it to their citizens by saying it is in their best interest. They then create harsh penalties for any area that wants to strike out on it's own, and often it had to come to war. At least the rest of Canada would be limited to their actions in the original union you proposed because of American support and border trade through New Brunswick.
I would enjoy limited government, but my understanding of rights are that they only exist if they are exclusive to all people, without interfering with the other existing rights. Violent actions, outside of self defense, doesn't seem to fit this standard. I would want to see police, laws, and strong borders, like the night watchmen state, otherwise large groups of people start forming their own 'gang', so to speak, and start running areas for themselves.
hmmm, i really dont like canadians for some reason
I will always remain Small government. I believe Canada should have originally been divided between states, like an Atlantic State, and giving primary powers to the states; the federal government would be voluntary for the most part.
As for an Atlantic Nation (name subject to change), what I want to see is a very limited federal government, voluntary in fact, a reciprocal provincial government (the benefits of government programs (mail service, etc) at the cost of taxation. And a regulated/involuntary community government where the roots of economic infrastructure lay.
I'm a lobster fisherman. I think it's not good for their to be too much fishing; there needs to be regulation. It would be upto a council of communities to decide fishing regulations, and it'd be also a council decision to embargo any community that didn't adhere to the guidelines.
So, weak federal government, semi-strong state government, and strong municipal government? It would probably be more effective than just trying to form a separate country. as I thought the original idea was. More people need to understand that you have much, much more power at a local level. The more power municipalities have to run their affairs, the more you could go out today, knock on doors, and actually make a difference on whatever issue. Try having any effect on a federal problem. It's a waste of time.
I've struggled with fishing rights and what to make with them for years, as it's the one of the problems that libertarianism seems to have no answer for. Does a man not have the right to feed himself over all else? Does it trump making a profit fishing? Do you have a right to profit in whatever area you choose to make for a living?
I think I would just draw the line at the first one. You have the right to fish for food, everything else must be regulated as to not deplete the fish for the original right. That said, I'm not sure council management would be that effective. One of the issues is overfishing of international waters, although now that we expanded the economic zone, it isn't as bad. The other issue is that demand is much more than supply, which corrupts industry, and will remain so unless we focus on feeding local people first and foremost. It's absurd that fish in Alberta and fish in Nova Scotia cost nearly the exact same price.
I know you were responding to me. No need to correct yourself lol.
Yes, a weak federal government (voluntary), even at the risk of no benefit; a reciprocal regional government, in which you give to get; and then a strong municipal government.
As a fisherman, let me lay out the problem with over-fishing, how to stop it as an issue, but also to encourage that we don't starve as a people for the sake of cheap lobsters going to china...
The problem today, is that even if the law let us recreationally catch lobster, it would require more policing, because people would be catching them and illegally adding them to their commercial quota. It's hard to regulate, nearly impossible. So instead of going bottom up, we go from the top to the bottom. Instead of adding more red tape, we instead measure how much product goes in and out, then base our quotas around that. Those that practice wrongful fishing tactics (such as going over a quota) will be dealt with individually by each municipality as they so choose.
The regional government would then have a right to put an embargo on that community or a particular product for as long as the practice remains. And if the person doesn't cease his wrongful practice (he could be selling directly to China), the voluntary military forces will, for the sake of the entire nation, arrest them and deal with them accordingly (as a foreign entity).
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Sounds too good to be true. It sounds better than awesome.
Shut up. Gentlemen are talking.
Well.. To have any kind of voluntary government, it needs some measures to keep it existing.
The voluntary government could get some of its funding from the regional governments; the impoverished/lesser-well-off regions would then not have to pay a cent if they didn't have to.
And if you want to live inna woods and be a squatter, the province will treat you as a municipality (similar to how Britain treated commoners); you can act as your own judge, you can do as you wish in unused lands, and you can collect as much fish as you want, but the region has a right to embargo your trade, as do the communities; in fact, not being in a municipality means you are restricted by commoner laws, a secondary branch of regional government.
i concur
>loyal to a British cause
We were founded on the understanding that we were creating a better Britain, why pay tribute to the poor little one we rebelled from?
Noticing a lack of retarded US citizen in here. I've come to fit the bill.
Because we are still essentially British in culture, unless it is lost to time. I pay tribute to our historical British roots (with the aforementioned flag), but I want to pay a little distance between us and them; because, as modern Britain is a big shithole, we ought to learn from them and ourselves, and build something better.
We already have, user; it's about keeping it that way. By separating ourselves from Britain we've managed to avoid becoming Europified pussies
Yes please, and California go to....America back to normal.
Because of English common law... Which is essentially British.
Britain became a bunch of pussies because of immigration and foreign relations (which America was the best at).
We're not too good at much of anything anymore. Shit is getting bad. UK, US, and Canadian revival when?
Hello it is me, a real Englishman.
>the last bastion of TRUE unblemished British culture
south west england
>We already have, user; it's about keeping it that way. By separating ourselves from Britain we've managed to avoid becoming Europified pussies
Essentially this.