Why don't Croats identify as Slavs?
I've found that nationalism in most Slavic countries has some sense of Slavic brotherhood to it. Or at least some sort of overarching Slavic sensibilities. Croatians appear to be the exception to this rule. I've even seen Croatian nationalists online outright deny that Croats are even Slavs and try to argue that they're descended from Goth tribes are are Germanic or something. What makes Croats so reluctant to embrace the tracksuit, Sup Forums?
Why don't Croats identify as Slavs?
If I was to make an observation (and I have basically 0 knowledge on the Balkan Slav situation) it could be due to the fact that at the time of the collapse of the Habsburg Empire, the Croatians were the 2nd most loyal to the Austrians with Hungary being the top loyal member. From what I know as well in the event that Austria-Hungary expanded to have a third constituent nation within it, Croatia would have been the like candidate to manage the Balkan Slavs. Obviously as we know the opposite happened and Serbia led the slavs. It might stem from that but I'm probably very wrong about it.
No you are on to something
I suspect it's mostly down to our close relationship with Germany and shared history with Austria and Hungary, which also resulted in a high germanic or Hungarian admixture in some parts of Croatia.
Plus, there is quite a contempt for the "pan-slavic" idea in Croatia, mostly because it's been co-opted by Serbs to mean Greater Serbia, and we fought a pretty bloody war to get out of that one.
Ustasa Hardliners are usually the ones who claim germanic descent, some do it out of true belief and some do it out of sympathy to Ustasa regime which did it to pander to the Germans.
What is saying also is true. We even invaded hungary when they rebelled against austria.
Also Historically Pan-slavic developments sooner or later always ended with Serbs seizing power and persecuting croats, so its no suprise alot of people arent fond of it.
>mentioning serbs, "greater serbia" and persecution of croats
>deliberately fail to mention of licking boots to austria just to become regional power and persecution of serbs which followed it even before any union with the rest of the serbs, then later ww2 which ensured the genocide of serbs and their aspirations for greater croatia
ah croats, never change
>persecution of Serbs
>greater croatia
OJ BRE
>deliberately fail to mention of licking boots to ottomans just to become a regional power (see siege of constantinople, battle of nicopolis, battle of karanovasa, battle of rovine)
Ah turkos*rbs, never change
but we were never regional power with ottomans, so why are you projecting, crorat?
>we licked boots and didn't get anything so it doesn't count
>greater croatia
>what is NDH inspired by the pic you posted here which could've ensured you the absolute power over those said lands
is that another bait?
we didn't lick anyone's boots, we were playing on the both sides
You did the same in WW2. collaborated with both sides. Because Serbs are sneaky
>we were playing on the both sides
>translation: we got raped and enslaved and then killed fellow christians to please our turkish masters.
wow 4d chess n shiiet
now i'm sure that's a bait kek
>posting the pic of ustashas killing the same serbs who protected them from the ottomans for centuries
is that how croats say "thanks" to someone?
Can Croats even squat? They seem a little more evolved than your common garden variety slavo.
Thats normal/historical croatia.
And and boy did you lick boots.
At first you became a vassal to hungary out of free will (croatia became a vassal of hungary through a hard fought war) and then you sucked Ottoman dick for the next few hundred years.
Not only did you fight for them against croatians, hungarians, Austrians, wallachs, crusaders, Bulgars, englishmen, germans, frenchmen and italians but you also ended up getting raped by them.
And then you licked german boots in ww2 and as soon as things turned south you betrayed them and now eternally cry about muh NDH and muh germans.
Turkos*rbian strategy/10
>serbs who protected them from the ottomans
Run that by me again...
Smell of tractor guzzoline is spreading ITT
No problems with squatting.
VROOM VROOM
>At first you became a vassal to hungary out of free will
you mean, we became vassals out of our interest
>croatia became a vassal of hungary through a hard fought war
>only his royal class decided to fight against huns who of course BTFO'd them within days, and even that's questionable
the rest of your shitposts are baits so no reason to respond to them
>what's Military Frontier
For some strange reasons, i hate naturally hate Serbs. They seem to think they're some kind of chosen people when really no one cares about them.
>we decided to become slaves for protection
>what is bootlicking?
Address some of the other points Mr.Lazar Ottomanić.
Based US marine / english teacher.
Turkos*rbs are arrogant balkan kikes.
>we were playing on the both sides
Serbs: when licking one pair of boots isn't enough so they lick two at the same time.
>divide and conquer thread
gee, i wonder wcbbtp
Just call them both Scroats and be done with it
>>we decided to become slaves for protection
why slaves? military frontier in even got autonomy and people there were paid just for fighting off against ottoman hordes
as for the other side of the border, in ottoman empire everyone in the balkans who isn't a loyal muslim (so serbs, greeks, buglarians and albanians) had to pay taxes to the local converts who ruled over their region and they would be spared off any further involvement with them. there was of course time when they would pay harder form of taxes like giving babies to the ottomans so they could be raised as janissaries, but those people later could become high ranking officials which some of them did...
>playing on the both sides for its own interests
>licking boots
pick one
>military frontier
>statua valachorum
>implying the Orthodox population wasn primarily vlachs
Also if you exclude the Banat (Vojvodina) Frontier catholics made up a majority of the croatian and slavonian military frontier you autist.
Also im obviously not talking about the military frontier but about serbia.
>playing both sides
>eternal butthurt
(((Where))) have I heard these things before?
>muh vlachs aren't serbs meme
>Also if you exclude the Banat (Vojvodina) Frontier catholics made up a majority of the croatian and slavonian military frontier you autist.
bullshit
it was always orthodox majority from its beginning