Reminder that you can't be a christian and support capitalism.
Christianism is inherently against the wealth thievery that the opressors make toward the working class, to be christian is to support to idea of the wealth redistribution, the abolition of the private property and abolition of the classes.
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Maybe the Catholic Church should spread some of that wealth around? They and the Queen probably own everything.
Catholics are not christians
Watch this video and get back to me.
From the Gospel of Luke:
12 So he said, “A nobleman went to a distant country to get royal power for himself and then return. 13 He summoned ten of his slaves, and gave them ten pounds,[a] and said to them, ‘Do business with these until I come back.’ 14 But the citizens of his country hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to rule over us.’ 15 When he returned, having received royal power, he ordered these slaves, to whom he had given the money, to be summoned so that he might find out what they had gained by trading. 16 The first came forward and said, ‘Lord, your pound has made ten more pounds.’ 17 He said to him, ‘Well done, good slave! Because you have been trustworthy in a very small thing, take charge of ten cities.’ 18 Then the second came, saying, ‘Lord, your pound has made five pounds.’ 19 He said to him, ‘And you, rule over five cities.’ 20 Then the other came, saying, ‘Lord, here is your pound. I wrapped it up in a piece of cloth, 21 for I was afraid of you, because you are a harsh man; you take what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.’ 22 He said to him, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked slave! You knew, did you, that I was a harsh man, taking what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then did you not put my money into the bank? Then when I returned, I could have collected it with interest.’ 24 He said to the bystanders, ‘Take the pound from him and give it to the one who has ten pounds.’ 25 (And they said to him, ‘Lord, he has ten pounds!’) 26 ‘I tell you, to all those who have, more will be given; but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away. 27 But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.’”
Fuck off Pablo
Fuck off
There are many references in the bible of property ownership.
The bible never says to keep giving one's own money to their detriment.
Your premise is completely false
I think that there is part in the bible where jesus says to a rich man "abandon all your wealth now and you shall be granted god's kingdom", then the wealthy man refuses and returns to his life and jesus mocks him with the diciples "it is more easy for a camel to enter to god's kingdom rather than a wealthy man to abandon his gold"
More or less those words, my grandma used to repeat it all the tine.
>for a camel to enter to god's kingdom
Find someone who isn't fucking british, and get back to me.
Voluntary wealth redistribution.
By this His attributes be visible.
Compulsory redistribution disguises His attributes, deferring His glory to the faceless nameless State. No one can give Him His due, because none has anything to give, but through the State.
Property rights go hand in hand with Christianity. Being a Christian, one should want to give - and give in His name. But that only works under a system of property rights and free exchange of resources.
Of course a a spic would think successful people are oppressing him
There's no such thing as "Capitalism."
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Didn't Jesus kick some merchant ass?
Jas 4:13 Now listen, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.”
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Jas 4:15 Instead, you ought to say, “If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.”
reminder that all comunists were excommunicated by the church
en.wikipedia.org
Capitalism is not theft. Christianity supports private property. Traditional liberalism is derived from Christianity.
Why all the bandaids?
They are Mexico. Not sure why you don't get that considering the number of Catholics in your country.,
>You think....
Thinking and knowing are two entirely different things here, pendajo.
Capitalism isn't the problem; all capitalism is is the recognition of property rights, i.e. the moral-legal proscription of stealing. Like in the Seventh Commandment.
The problem is usury, which Christians mysteriously stopped opposing at some point. Bad move.
prove it, cite the bible verse, i will take it to my pastor and we shall see how full of shit you are.
Yeah, I want the backstory.
>Christianism
Mexican intellectual, listen up everybody.
The Bible is awesome
He fucked them up so hard that it echoed through eternity
Usury and capitalism aren't the same thing, m8.
>Implying that working hard an innovating is theft.
>idiots think captialism is a form of government rather than a form of economy
Capitalism is literally just the trading of goods according to supply and demand. Just because some people have more goods than others doesn't mean anything.
> Sup Forums will ignore this.
Protestants are the jews of christianity
Private ownership of productive assets... that requires government intervention
All of you fucking commies eventually revert to class warfare when their other pet projects start failing.
You only destroy nations, you build nothing, you contribute nothing, you demand everything, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
(((eternity)))
You can still own things without the government you know
They're retards, but yes they are still Christian.
you are literally a productive asset
either you should be free to utilize to your own purposes
or gov should impose upon you to utilize it toward whatever purpose gov declares
If you want to draw an arbitrary line between your self and the productive machines you make via your self, that is unfortunate, since your ceding rights to the results of your labor; your self.
IM A PAGAN AND IM FOR TIDDIES
>anglican
>The Queen is the head of the church
>stands by silently while her country falls to islam
Right. But a capitalistic government will act in the interests of the investor class. Like so that you can mow down the filthy mob when they try to take over the factory you spent billions on.
It also requires firearms
Lol Jesus was an spiritual alpha, he is the ultimate spiritual model, he is the son of a God, you never could be like him, you are just a nu-male, a chimp seeking bananas, so for your terrestrial life you must get a good male model for develop your manhood, for your spiritual life you must seek Jesus.
Sounds like Communism with extra steps
Those are some nice tits
This based beaner gets it. The only true Christfags are unironically Mudslimes and Non-trinitarians.
Trinitarian Christianity is a hoax made up by the Romans in order to make monotheism palatable for the masses who preferred paganism.
But you have little power as an individual. The reason the investor class can exploit you is because they bring scaled capital into the equation whereas you bring yourself. Unions can bring scaled labor into the equation to compensate but that doesn't always go well.
SOURCEEE???
Mexican poor fag wants gibs
SAGE
That's basically what I mean. That and functional courts.
>The only true Christfags are unironically Mudslimes
Behead yourself with a machete/curved sword Ali Al Pedro.
For to the one who has, more will be given, and from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away."
Mark 4:25 ESV
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Just stop.
Having gov take from the investor class doesn't empower you as an individual any more
It only further consolidates power, making your problem even worse.
weak b8
>The original christians are not christians
fucking kill yourself
it's so easy to btfo people who try to make biblical arguments but don't back them with scripture. fuck off Pablo, indeed.
Christfag here, it promotes charity and helping downtrotten people in the economic sense.
But it's hardly collectivist in nature, source: entire old testiment.
Stop asking for gibs OP.
the only sense of jesus being a socialist comes from the fact that he's literally magical and can make fish and bread from nothing. Beyond that, charity is a consensual exchange between those who have and those who need. Thou shalt not steal, even if you try to change the definition of stealing so the law does not recognize the state as thieves. So long as you have a state, you have classes, and you will always have a state, as people are poised to disagree in any given society and rules must be agreed upon, whether in practice or in concept. Barring an agreement, law must be enforced. A law is only an idea that can be enforced physically. There are those who can utilize violence and those who cannot, and those who can, we call the state, whom establish a class above those who cannot.
God's Kingdom resides in heaven, but you still need to get there, and you will not get there by feigning righteousness in the act of bending the knee and the will to the will of unrighteous men. Socialists do not believe in God for a reason. Government is their God. Thou shalt not worship false idols.
>he must be a beaner since he's posting with a beaner flag
Sorry to disappoint you Mario, I'm a burger expat.
Also, if you actually gave a shit about the OT and related it to the NT you'd realize that Jesus never demanded to be worshipped, only followed.
"I have not come to abolish the law or replace it, but to fulfill it" Book of Matthew
I'm pretty sure Jesus would be A-OK with people respecting and accepting his message, but only worshipping the father just as he had done himself.
Anything relating to Jesus being divine and more than a messiah or messenger is distortion by Paul and the later leaders of the Church. Even Peter himself followed Mosaic Law till he died.
I didn't say anything about gov taking from investors. I agree it can make the problem worse.
Your abuelita was retarded, and so are you.
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Paul is the wolf is sheeps clothing(Benjamite) . Masaeyah means Implement of Yah
What a dumb post. Low IQ. Catholics are Christians. And there's nothing wrong with Capitalism.
I'm experiencing second hand embarrassment from your stunning lack of intellect.
>to be christian is to support to idea of the wealth redistribution
Yes, within your own people/church, not random strangers and that druggie dropout who didn't finish college. This is very, very clear in the Gospels of both Matthew and Paul. Jesus preached helping your fellow Christians first then helping others out of charity, which isn't putting a gun to someone's head and forcing them to give, such as the case in communism/socialism. Get fucked faggot. Probably never read The Bible from cover to cover in your life you fake ass cunt.
Then all you're saying is there will be inequality - to which I agree. I can only ask "so what?" though I ask sincerely.
big tits and thin waists is where it's currently at
>I'm pretty sure Jesus would be A-OK with people respecting and accepting his message, but only worshipping the father just as he had done himself
He said He is Good, idiot.
>Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.”
John 8:58
You sure, wall builder?
Matthew 25
‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
1.To be Christian is to support the idea of wealth redistribution- False
2. To be C is to be for the abolition of private property- False
3. To be for the abolition of classes- Not monetarily, not in a secular/social sense either,
Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it. Mathew 5:17-18 "17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished" Christians therefore work towards adherance to Old Testament views of Private Property ownership and governance.
I didn't know Mexico had a Communist problem. Day of the wall when?
>Also, if you actually gave a shit about the OT and related it to the NT you'd realize that Jesus never demanded to be worshipped, only followed.
But you cant' deny he is the son of God you dumb muddie.
>original Christianity
>cuckoldicism
>Good
*God
Usury is absolutely unchristian, along with miserliness. Christ is called a king, a master,a landlord. The entire symbolic structure of the faith falls apart without the notion of property rights. That said, wealth hoarding is a son. Theft is also a sin. To complaint about others wealth hoarding sure not justify the theft that wealth redistribution requires.
Jesus Christ commanded that slaves be obedient to their masters.
Jesus turned down many wannabe disciples, and not all in the same way.
He turned down this rich young ruler by hitting him in the shekels. The rich young ruler was not willing to let go of his shekels, and now regrets it. Immensely.
If you're a Christian and anything other than a National Socialist, you need a darn good explanation
>A large church will bring in more people
In modern Europe neither bring in significant numbers of people.
No, no they are not. They're Babylonian pagans. The do nothing differently than any of the Babylonian pagans before them, including renaming their idols.
Non-trinitarians are not Christians.
It's either that or East Orthodoxy, and the differences between them are virtually non-existent compared to the differences between Catholics and protestants.
God does not have to demand to be worshiped. To be in the presence of God causes God to be worshiped.
Bullshit. Day of the Rake when.
>Catholics are Christians.
By no means.
>supporting capitalism or socialism as a Christian
Neither are moral, neither are righteous.
Nice meme, you collectivist faggot.
Almost a hundred posts and no one asks why this semen demon has bandages all over her breasts ?
Idk. I was just telling user that just because capitalisms doesn't mean the gov't doesn't get directly involved
your mom never was private property
Christianity is opposed to usury, but it's not your shitty Jewish communism either.
NatSoc or bust.
>Reminder that you can't be a christian and support capitalism.
Christianity is a lie. God and Jesus are imaginary. Free market exists. Not a hard choice to make.
>Reminder that you can't be a christian and support capitalism.
>jesus said "render under caesar what is caesar"
fuck commies
he's literally a jew
Christianity is the original Jew commie lie
Ok, then false dichotomy on my part.
but disregarding socio-economic systems or gov. People are different. Given that is the case. Is there anything we ought to do about it? Again. serious question, though more speculative and hypothetical.
thats a lot of patches is this game glitchy? i need to know if i want to buy this game.
>I'm a burger expat
Getting ICE'd doesn't count as expatriation, Paco.
Religious threads belong in fucking /x/ or /trash/
Not fucking politics nigger
Well, people can react to the fact that there will always be inequality in a varied number of ways.
The most healthy way is to recognize that it is true, and attempt to lean reality in your favor, to where you and yours have more than other people do. That's what most people do.
A very dangerous number of people cannot do that because they are useless, stupid, and in many ways defective human beings. They therefore see the inequality as something that must be "fixed" so that life is "fair".
All they really are doing is the same thing the useful people are doing; attempting to gain more for them and theirs than the other has.
Except in the case of the moronic equality freaks, they don't seem to notice that their "solutions" always end up in the murder of millions of people.
In the words of the immortal Geddy Lee, "and the trees were all kept equal, by hatchet, axe, and saw!"
both, actually, as only God is Good.
Are you saying you worship the free market?