Vegas Shooting Briefing Thread

Guard was shot 6 min before the attack. Previous Thread
Press Conference: youtu.be/HkOdPK0Qgv8

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Previously issued timeline. Pic related

New theory: There were accomplices, but Paddock was the only shooter. Everything else that was going on all over the city and at other casinos were based on false reports and fake bomb threats as a diversion to create maximum chaos. Does this theory fit the evidence?

So this means the security guard did NOT stop the shooter after ~10 minutes of gunfire, so what did?

Did the just realize after 10 minutes that killing dozens of innocent people didn't feel as satisfying as he thought it would, got depressed and shot himself?

I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore.

he had an exit plan, which was to go upstairs to room 61104 (Four seassons) after cleaning the room.

He needed to blow the tanks, so all the police would go there, and he would have the time to escape (To the other room).

Campos fucked everything. He probably saw campos using the webcam outside. Maybe he had a tracker program that beeps when something moves in front of the cam.

if the security guard interrupted/discovered Stephen before the shooting started this is huge, it changes everything. Jesus fucking Compo could be an even bigger hero.
He discovered paddock and was shot then paddock smashes out two windows trys to shoot fuel tanks then jots downs some firing calculations for the harvest festival across the street then unloads bullets for 10 minutes and shoots himself while wearing pj's and slippers. fucking kek , the harvest festival was not the target or plan or the entire plan.
The security guard interrupted the plan and in a panic or attempt improvise Paddock launched the attack on the concert.

Wasn't an user saying that g4 security prevented a bigger attack?

All them guns and ammo, explosives in car. Stephen Paddock was not working alone and the attack on vegas was meant to bigger.

My bet is Stephen was part of a cell, he had a clean record and funds so his job was to purchase and collect the weapons and ammo for the attack.

jesus christ now they change their story

That’s what I think too. Campos blew the plan. He’s the building 7 of this that fucks every narrative they try to fabricate.

Watch between 07:00 and 08:30 and listen closely, also watch the bystander´s reactions (get´s on his toes for a milliseconds). I don´t read body language well, what does /pol make of it?

THIS JUST IN, THE STORY IS CHANGING AGAIN; ALT-RIGHT EXTREMIST SAM HYDE IS IDENTIFIED AS SECOND SHOOTER, CAUGHT ON CAMERA SPEEDING AWAY FROM SHOOTING

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So what was the guard doing for 6 minutes?
The shooter didn't start for 6 minutes
10:05 came then started his 10 minute shooting
10:15 he stopped shooting, then minutes after there were 2 officers waiting on his floor
1 hour passed they finally entered the room.

There's a huge gap missing. There's no way he just offed himself and that's what caused the end of his shooting

HE

it goes deeper, user.

Also, about john-user... John Beilman's house was ordered to be searched by a judge 3 days after LV shooting occurred. The next day John Beilman was found dead in his front yard, suicide. FBI refuse to release details as to why they had conducted the search

CANT

I'm not sure but watch the Sheriff at 1:35 of this video. Reading a statement and almost slips.

youtube.com/watch?v=HkOdPK0Qgv8

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anyone have an idea as to what he intended to say?

Man what the fuck.

OH SHiT!!
>he was able to confirm for us exactly what he heard and saw in the moments before the--
>he was shot.
watch the face of the suit behind him too. He glares angrily at the sheriff for this

Has anybody looked into this business or any of its associates yet? Pic related.

>nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=xXrsumJXjK5n/5J3J7zasA==

I'm trying to eliminate a theory...

1. Elevator movement is being watched, no one could leave the floor by elevator without their destination floor being monitored at the main desk.

2. Stairway was not secured until 40 minutes after last shot.

3. If multiple shooters, did they exit room by second door, and make their way down to another floor.

4. Second shooter theories involve them leaving the hotel. What if they had rooms on a lower (or upper) floor, exit shooting scene and hold up in their room until everything dies down?

john beilman was also an ex-contractor for a corporation which makes electronic diveces for government and defense agencies, Ultralife corp

The article states "a charger was found that does not match any of the cellphones that belonged to gunman, Stephen Paddock. And second, garage records show that during a period when Paddock's car left the hotel garage, one of his key cards was used to get into his room."


zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-06/vegas-shooter-investigators-puzzled-believe-he-was-not-alone-two-reasons

WTF WHY IS THIS NOT DISCUSSED

WHO USED HIS CAR/CARD?

WHO WAS WITH HIM?

This guy glares a lot during the whole conference. He´s almost like a seismograph for the quality of information that the audience gets.

looks like a shell corporation to launder money if Ive ever seen one...

You may be asking yourself how the timeline of the guard getting to Paddock's room changes by 18 minutes (now there 6 minutes before, opposed to 12 minutes after). You may also be asking yourself how they couldn't have cleared this up during/right after the shooting by asking "did you hear shots before you got there"? ((Pure coincidence)))

>the harvest festival

The harvest festival just isn't the same without Lil Sebastian

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Anyone notice the sheriff wasn't wearing his uniform? So is he technically acting as the sheriff? MegaAnon talked about how FBI is in control but making LVMPD go out there and talk about an investigation they don't control. She said LVMPD really wants to tell you that they're not in control, the FBI is. Is Lombardo's attire a sign?

Valet ticket shows Van Parked....after shooting finished.....

IS THE FBI MUDDYING THE WATERS TO HIDE THE TRUTH ABOUT MULTIPLE SHOOTERS?

gotnews.com/breaking-lauraloomer-pokes-another-hole-fbis-las-vegas-narrative/

Security cameras would answer every question. He’s dead and acted alone, so why not release them?

Yeah, he’s running this shit. Sheriff is just a hand puppet.

Valet ticket shows PADDOCK Van Parked....after shooting finished.....

IS THE FBI MUDDYING THE WATERS TO HIDE THE TRUTH ABOUT MULTIPLE SHOOTERS?

gotnews.com/breaking-lauraloomer-pokes-another-hole-fbis-las-vegas-narrative/

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If they have them, and it's not a cover up, they better release them eventually.

I'd hate to another pentagon. One of the most secure buildings in the world with hundreds of cameras, and all we get is 3 grainy frames from 1/2 a mile away that shows nothing.

>moments before the....first shots.

but he's a retarded hick sheriff that can barely speak.
and you guys are equally retarded for thinking he's anything more

exactly. security footage should have left NO doubt over when the MB security guard arrived at the room.
yet somehow he arrives after the shooting, then before.
somehow it takes a week for FBI forensic investigators to realize that a ''cryptic note'' is actually readily recognizable kinesmatics equations taught in first year physics at any university.
what the literal fuck is going on?

Im going to break into your house in the middle of the night and rake your entire family in their sleep

>Okay, so why did the shooter stop? We were originally told he stopped because of the heroic actions of Campos.

>Before the cops even show up he offs himself? He’s already shown he doesn’t mind shooting it out with security. He had a great defensive position. He could have just sprayed down that hallway and kept everyone away for a while.

>Hotel worker gets shot. Casino security? Hotel security? Police? Response time for police with an active shooter, hotel worker shot, is probably 5 minutes. They should have had security on that floor, and once shooting started you’d think they could at least draw his attention. Campo had a radio/phone? There’s no way Paddock should have had 20+ minutes to shoot.

>What was Jesus Campos doing the whole time he was shot? Why are there no pictures of Campos? Nothing from friends and family wishing him well? No footage of him in a hospital bed. No pictures of him at all.

>How could this occur without other hotel residents hearing the shots and calling 911 or at least the front desk? Why weren't any of the 17 armed hotel security guards immediately dispatched to investigate?

how did he know paddock was a bad guy then if he was shot before he shot anyone else?

How is that even possible, wound a radio carrying security guard and then have the person that sot him blaze away from the same location for as long as he wanted.

2 questions:
Do we believe Jesus Campos engaged The shooter 6 minutes prior to the shooting? Do we believe the LVMPD is in control of this investigation (Or has the FBI been running it for however long)

>Anyone notice the sheriff wasn't wearing his uniform?

that could be some subconscious tactic or something

exactly. Why was this ''heroic'' security guard there in the first place?

security guard was a secret agent.

he knew what was happening before it was gonna go down.

the police ignored all calls until enough damage was done.

The FBI is definitely in charge. I'm not even convinced Jesus Campos exists.

what would he have done had he escaped? the room was booked in his name so he'd be america's #1 fugitive with his face plastered on every news outlet across the world. he seemed really smart and was well prepared so you'd think if he wanted to get away two things he would have done would be to get rid of the serial numbers on the guns and have the room booked under someone else's name.

>Do we believe Jesus Campos engaged The shooter 6 minutes prior to the shooting?
Possibly.
This would mean the security guard either A) approached the room while auto gun fire was going off, B) approached the room after paddock possible took a few single shots at the fuel tanks or C) approached the room because ???
> Do we believe the LVMPD is in control of this investigation (Or has the FBI been running it for however long)
FBI 100%. the LVMPD are only the official spokespieces of the investigation. They say what they are told to say. The FBI is running this 100% because it is absolutely a federal incident

>deepak chopra is ceo
What the fuck?

Identity of the guy in the suit?

No motive no crime

>This would mean the security guard either A) approached the room while auto gun fire was going off, B) approached the room after paddock possible took a few single shots at the fuel tanks or C) approached the room because ???

Well, we are told the door was ajar, so that may be a reason to check upon the room.

If Campos was a hero, he would have had a big photo op with Trump by now. Instead a “miracle” happened.

exactly. how the shit did paddock mean to escape with 250 lbs of registered weapons and ammunition?
Maybe paddock was caught off guard (maybe campos?) and started firing?
Maybe he planned it all along and did need want an escape.
or maybe he was a patsy

I am suspicious of Campos. Not as a shooter but as an FBI agent. It seems like a strange coincidence that there was an open door alarm, unrelated to Paddock, on the 32nd floor, and it happened to take place while Paddock was drilling holes in his wall (presumably for the camera setup).

But the part that REALLY throws me off is this: put yourself in that guards situation.
>On 32nd floor for open door alarm
>Hear someone drilling in a random room and the door is ajar, decide to check it out
>OH SHIT dude in the room starts shooting at me! Fuck I'm shot in the leg.
>I think I'll stay on the floor and just wait here for police to arrive. I'll radio security while I wait.

.. Dude, someone just shot you? And you're unarmed and you're just gonna hangout there in the same area? wtf. that's the stuff nightmares are made of. If someone shoots you, your next step is to get away and seek medical attention. Dude supposedly hung around, he's lucky paddock didn't come out into the hallway and finish him off

My opinion: Paddock was prepping the room for the assault, which was not supposed to happen at that time, maybe even not that day at all. He had accomplices whome he communicated with online in a very secure manner.

The hotel floor maybe was a VIP floor with few cameras for privacy of VIPs.

When the security guard came, Paddock thought it was fucked, and he was found out.

So he then went off the script and attacked the concert, quickly jotting down his bullet drop, he smashed the windows and shot then killed himself.

This explains why he had a car with unrigged explosive and way too many guns, he wasnt finished yet, and was interrupted.

holy fucking shit, you mean genius millionaire paddock, with 30 guns in his room, 50 pounds of explosives in his trunk, who plants security cameras in a fucking casino and calculates ballistic trajectories when he goes shooting left the fucking door open? and this was enough to send him into a shooting rampage?
bullshit. hes gets everything COMPED. the casino would not have given a single shit if they walked in and his room was full of guns, coke and lolis

maybe campos wanted to be a hero and so he molded his story as the person who interrupted the shooter and led the police to the shooters location

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WHAT THE FUCK

>Steven paddock narrows his gaze and looks out the freshly broken window
>slaps a 30 round mag on his bumpfire stock + bipod equipped AR-15
>he’s prone
>he shoulders the weapon
>he raises the optic to his eye
>he lets his eye adjust for a moment until he can see a magnified closeup of a portion of the scene below
>he takes a deep breath
>knowing that this is it—his final gamble
>time to say goodbye....he knows he can’t back out now and he doesn’t want to
>with blissful abandon he squeezes off a burst...seconds later a woman crumples like a sack of potatoes in his optic

“COMP’D”
>He releases the air from his longs and holds the trigger down until the mag empties
>BABABBABABABBABABABABABBA
>He can’t see thru the muzzle flash but he still shouts at the top of his lungs
COMP’D COMP’D COMP’d COMP’D COMP’D
>click
>as smoke rises the barrel he switches mags slowly, deliberately
>and fires again screaming
COMPD COMPD COMPD COMPD COMPD COMPD COMPD COMPD
>he peers through the optic seeing thousand of terrified people huddled, lying down...dozens of dead in crumpled heaps, some crawling wounded
“I’ll do it all for the sushi”
>BABABABABBABABA
“COMP’D COMPd COMPd COMPD COMPD COMPD COMPD”

What are the Nevada laws on firearms gifting? Could the rifles have been comped?

They say the guard came because another guest left their door open, but I think they have some secret security shit, maybe the drill vibrations were detected and they are using the "door ajar" excuse to keep the security methods secret.

taking your first supposition and applying occam's razor would seem to suggest he is a patsy. a much simpler conclusion.

This seems most likely.

Or the hotel just pulled his sweet comps.

why was paddock drilling into the wall of the room next door to his?

ill give this theory a 'maybe, but maybe not'... drill vibrations were detected? come one user, a loud TV or loud music in the VIP suite would set off every 'drill detection sensor' in the whole area

if he brought a drill, maybe that’s what the extra charger was for

The Sheriff suggested he was probably drilling to put his hallway camera in the wall. I mean that would be simple ennough to do and shouldn't have got him caught had there not been a security guard who coincidentally was in the hallway at the same time

They said he was drilling holes near the door. Maybe he tripped the door alarm wiring?

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He's dropping little hints throughout the press conference that tells you he's not in charge.
>We'll be sure to pass that along once it becomes available to us
>I'm not privy to that

the whole "door ajar" alarm coincidence is too fucking much

just so happens a door alarm goes off right when a fucking massacre is occurring

get the fuck out

Wow 93 to 96 what a jump

That's sarcasm btw

I think they rolled out this "6 minutes before" to set up the following narrative:
>Jesus Campos, brave mexican (see what they did there), foiled Stephen Paddock's attack which was originally going to be much worse.
>Had Campos not shown up, Stephen Paddock, white christian, would have been able to gunned down hundreds more something something tannerite explosions too.
>Campos' interruption caused Paddock to imporvise, and begin his white christian terrorist attack much earlier than he anticipated and wanted to. And something about Paddock not being able to utilize the explosives he had.
I think an early Campos allows them to ties things up, atleast in the NPC's minds.
Campos probably exists in some form or another, whether or not he was there, he probably saw something damning, or perhaps he got killed, and he'll never be allowed to speak unless he gets reprogrammed or bought off. Just spitballing
I dont but the 6 minutes before story.

Yeah maybe im wrong on that, but idk some other security measure they have that they dont want to reveal.

On the police scanner during the Vegas event. From the moment it started it took LVPD 17 minutes to identify where the shots were even coming from. Add this 6 minutes prior and that is 23 minutes until the first officer knows what floor it's coming from. So this security guard takes a shot, and doesn't even notify the cops?

Sounds legit to me.

They spoke of 200 rounds being shot into the hallway. Presumably, that was when Campos checked out the room and he was fired upon. If some fuck was firing 200 rounds in the span of 6 minutes (9:59 was the time Campos was shot, 10:05 was when the shooter started his rampage), I'm hauling ass.

This story seems like it could be verified by a single camera in the hallway. Does this hotel not have at least 1 camera in every hallway?

Possibly but it would have to be wiring connected to a different room.

What's the TL;DR to the story change?

fuuuuuuuuuuck

would be nice making a 5% ROI in a single week

wait i understood it as he was drilling into THE WALL OF THE ROOM NEXT DOOR as in like a peephole to look into the room next door...is that wrong?

...but he didnt finish the drilling for some reason...

Yeah thats some fuckin' bad luck, but maybe Paddock thought the same and figured the security was there for him, hence his overreaction.

You have to play the long game, user

>This story seems like it could be verified by a single camera in the hallway. Does this hotel not have at least 1 camera in every hallway?
its vegas so they probably do.

Exactly he didnt finish, which to me sounds like he only stopped because he felt he was cought then figured he was going to half assedly kill people ahead of schedule and go out that way.

the point of that image is someone talked about a 'high incident event' going down in vegas 'sometime soon' in that post. said it would be an excuse to tighten down regulations and sheldon adelson would profit from it along with OSI systems.

11:17
Who is the mechanic on 32nd floor?

12:25
>Sheriff calls Campos the suspect
>Refuses to call suspect by name

Thats what makes me think maybe it was some kind of VIP foor for guests who dont want to get blackmailed with footage of hookers coming and going from their rooms.

>.. Dude, someone just shot you? And you're unarmed and you're just gonna hangout there in the same area? wtf. that's the stuff nightmares are made of. If someone shoots you, your next step is to get away and seek medical attention. Dude supposedly hung around, he's lucky paddock didn't come out into the hallway and finish him off

Exactly. Anyone would have run and sought help. Instead, paddock waited 6 minutes, fired for 9-11 minutes, then offs himself.

No one thought to call the cops when Campos was shot?

the FBI agent behind is so fucking weird

its obvious now that the sheriff is just a puppet

fuck this whole thing

fuck the feds, they take over and no one gets answers

as if the FBI is some divine law enforcement agency that could never do anything nefarious, what a joke

Osi is pushing for this meow.

Unless he was somehow "pinned down" in his mind? But did he have a radio or phone on him? It would be very unbelievable luck if both his phone and radio got hit with a bullet

idk, a guy who gambles huge bets, an accountant, ex contractor for lockheed, and who has millions of dollars doesnt just go duke nukem on a crowd of concert goers from his 32nd floor suite just because someone caught him drilling a hole in a wall.
More likely he was pissed the casino didnt comp him the drill he was using to drill their own walls

Surprisingly, once you get away from the casino floor, many of these places aren't full of cameras. Being discrete is still a thing in Vegas. No CEO wants to stay in a hotel in Sin City where they'll later be able to blackmail him with footage of him heading to his room with not-his-wife.

Yeah when they asked him about how many laptops/phones he had the fbi agent leaned in and seemed to say something about you cant talk about that, then the sheriff said "uh I dont remember".

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>Surprisingly, once you get away from the casino floor, many of these places aren't full of cameras. Being discrete is still a thing in Vegas. No CEO wants to stay in a hotel in Sin City where they'll later be able to blackmail him with footage of him heading to his room with not-his-wife.
Disinfo Shill

Remember, the FBI officially concluded the Scalise shooting was a random coincidence not motivated by politics. 5 months after the Pulse shooting they were still saying they didn't have a motive.