Famous hacker says Paddock did not act alone

Open source hacker legend Eric S. Raymond on Las Vegas:

archive.is/Qj0tn
esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7682&cpage=1

>My initial reaction was “lone wacko”. All that was missing to make it the absolute classic lone-wacko profile was SSRIs. However…

>ISIS has claimed him. In the past, they’ve been truthful in these claims.

>I have a source inside the investigation. He says Paddock was a Trump-hater with an apartment full of antifa literature. He won’t come straight out and say there was a network behind Paddock, but he did say “You will be shocked” when more of what the investigators know becomes public in about a week.

>Some of what my source has since told me he doesn’t want posted on a blog. But some of it is public information that’s not getting press coverage. That I can talk about.

>Paddock was found with 12 burner phones.

>For those of you in the slow section, that means he was planning to exfiltrate, not suicide – and he expected to check in with some kind of control and support infrastructure while he was doing so. (My source didn’t say this. I didn’t need him to.) The obvious conclusion, supported by the forensic evidence, is that he panic-fumbled when the cops arrived and shot himself accidentally.

>There are signs Paddock had visitors after his sniper hide was set up.

>Paddock was set up to live-stream video of his atrocity to an audience.

>That video supposedly showing Paddock (wearing a pussy hat, no less) and his girlfriend at an anti-Trump rally? Confirmed.

>I’ve actually left out the most sensational detail, because my source asked me not to blog it.

>The MSM is going to be very, very unhappy when the truth comes out.

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twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/915824608615346177
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4947082/Las-Vegas-shooter-kept-guns-refrigerator-sized-safe.html
wsj.com/articles/shooter-may-have-had-target-practice-in-the-desert-two-days-before-las-vegas-massacre-1507405771
vvdailypress.com/news/20171009/after-escaping-las-vegas-shooting-high-desert-phoenix-foundation-co-founder-dies-suddenly
youtube.com/watch?v=y1OBjfN05MI
thesun.co.uk/news/3109447/shocking-moment-gunman-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-the-head-when-avenging-driver-runs-him-down-following-botched-car-park-robbery/
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There is evidence paddock was a gun Runner. But none that he fired a shot. It's the guards word against a corpse.

Can confirm, my dad runs a famous blog about workiing at Nintendo

Paddock had a big gun safe and was known to buy and shoot. If he *wasn't* the guy shooting, what was he doing in the room for the 11 minutes the shooting was going on?

Why does his death look like an accident? It looks like he was carrying a bunch of rifles and a handgun, slipped on spent cartridges and fumbled and shot himself in the head. That would explain the rifle he fell on top of, the fact that one foot was under another rifle, and the gunpowder stippling on his face.

The guy in the pussy hat is his friend, NOT Paddock. We have already found a picture with the man that wore the hat with Paddock and a group of friends. I forgot to save it, but it's easy to find. Doesn't change the fact that he could have been anti Trump, but its not him in the hat. Catch up faggots...

>James Paddock is a CIA agent running guns for ISIS
>He brings dozens of fully loaded high-capacity mags to a meeting with terrorists where he's planning to sell guns guns registered in his own name
>The deal went south there just happened to be a giant concert outside the window
>Everybody dies and the real terrorists escape from a Las Vegas casino undetected

Do people actually believe this shit? It's just a meme, right?

> accidental head shot

No.

The rest is very plausible though and the most likely scenario imo. More likely than all the arms dealer theories.

The point is that he's not some internet rando LARPing or looking for clicks, or a conspiracy theorist. (Though leftists might say he is, for his writings about the Gramscian memetic warfare of the SJW left.) He's a guy with a good reputation for decades, wrote an influential book, and some of the software that part of the internet runs on.

youtube.com/watch?v=hldt7XLzlUs

>> accidental head shot
>No.

The argument for accidental death:
archive.is/pyID2
twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/915824608615346177

>There is evidence paddock was a gun Runner.

My problem with that is: why do an arms deal inside a heavily-surveilled casino? Wouldn't you do it at some seedy motel somewhere?

>archive.is/pyID2
Im not buying it. Suicide or he was setup.

>youtube.com/watch?v=hldt7XLzlUs

Yeah, that's the sort of person I meant by an "internet rando."

>My problem with that is: why do an arms deal inside a heavily-surveilled casino? Wouldn't you do it at some seedy motel somewhere?

I asked that a few days ago and an user pointed out why.

> Do deals in the heavy surveillance area for security and people coming and going with bags is normal.
> all partys behave because they cannot get away with anything.
> as long as you arent ripping off the casino they dont gaf.

>> all partys behave because they cannot get away with anything.

Good point. Still, the crime scene does not look like "arms deal" to me. I'd expect the guns to be in crates, multiple copies of the same rifle, none registered to him, and without a lot of ammunition.

Another comment from ESR:

>My source is not saying who they think was behind Paddock. But the facts he *will* divulge pretty much exclude anything but jihadis, a foreign intelligence service (who I doubt would touch this kind of op with a bargepole), or a hard-left domestic-terrorist group.

>arms dealer
Why would he sell guns registered in his own name
Why would all modifications and accessories be 100% legal
Why would he bring dozens of fully loaded high capacity magazines

Don't forget the clean money exchange, payment passed as chips skips the need to launder the cash.

Always thought ESR was cool

>Eric S. Raymond
>hacking legend
>not insufferable autistic faggot

Why are people are acting as if casinos are a viable avenue for money laundering?

>Why would he sell guns registered in his own name
file off the serial #'s
>Why would all modifications and accessories be 100% legal
where was he supposed to legally buy illegal mods and accs?
>Why would he bring dozens of fully loaded high capacity magazines
who says those mags were loaded?

not trying to be a dick, just devils adv for sake of discussion

But that guy in the pussy hate doesn't look like him at all. I thought it did at first until more pictures of paddock came out. The fact that this says it's confirmed makes me question the whole thing.

For a one time deal there is nothing fishy about cashing out $500,000 when you came here with only $2,000. You can just win half a million in a casino, but you can't just find a duffle bag with half a million dollars.

We aren't talking laundering money for an extended amount of time, we're talking about a one and done deal.

none of my friends would wear a pussy hat. hell, they wouldn't even know what a pussy hat was. that faggot was a leftist faggot.

The pussy hat guy is not Paddock. Could’ve been believable without that part.

panic fumbled and shot himself in the mouth
Fiction as fuck

>take your dirty money to a casino, buy a bunch of chips, nobody is going to check serial numbers or anything like that
>play a couple hours, win or lose, doesn't matter
>cash in your remaining chips, the money is now clean
>if the dirty money wasn't yours to begin with, charge a fee for this service

The real question is why you think it's NOT a viable avenue to launder money.

>file off the serial #'s
Obviously you would file off the serial numbers before selling them. It would take a long.
>who says those mags were loaded?
Hundreds of rounds were fired so obviously many mags were loaded at some point. The photos clearly show stacked surefire mags, nobody stacks unloaded mags like that. Are you implying that he brought the guns, mags, and thousands of rounds of loose ammo which terrorists later loaded into magazines AND the police are in collusion with the terrorists lying about the unfired loaded mags.

My point is nobody would sell terrorists a bunch of completely legitimate guns registered in their own name, and bring a whole bunch of loaded mags with them. That's completely retarded. The first thing anyone worries about when selling a gun is getting shot with their own gun. The second is that the guns will be traced back to themselves. Additionally, for that ridiculous scenario to be true, the casino and police would have to be colluding with the real killers because there would be surveillance footage of them entering/leaving the room.

maybe he should stick to hacking

why would he bring what is it now, 40+ rifles to his room.

no possible way he can ever use them all
increases the risk of getting caught before the attack
not needed even to replace jammed weapons

there is also good evidence that he wasnt selling them, if indeed they are registered in his name (I havent seen this fact, just that he owned a lot of guns, not that the guns in his room were necessarily his)

if that is true tho, then it leaves only two conclusions:

A) Paddock was supposed to get away and leave the guns behind as SHOCKING evidence, in order to false-flag gun control

B) Paddock was not a lone operator

both A and B can be true. B is looking more and more certain.

Absolute bullshit.

He was shot to the chest, then inside the mouth.

>he's not some internet rando LARPing
esr has been LARPing for 20 years and has no notable technical accomplishments

Wasn't there some security guard that supposedly went into Paddock's hotel room? Was he Islam?

>muh friend is friends with anonymoose
fake, gay and saged

>Paddock had a big gun safe and was known to buy and shoot

lol who say that? CNN? Huffington Post big scoop?

literally none of that is in the articles you linked

>The real question is why you think it's NOT a viable avenue to launder money.

Because I've studied financial fraud and money laundering. The casino will notice and notify authorities quickly. Also you're going to fill out a 1099 every time you do a transaction of 10k or more in cash, so nothing is hidden from authorities. It would actually be well documented.

If money laundering were as easy as going to the casino, everybody would do it that way.

What a steaming load of shit

That guy is the ultimate LARPer

>he's planning to sell guns guns registered in his own name
anyone who believes he planned to escape should hear brakes squealing after reading this single detail
>one either sells guns that are untraceable because he plans to survive
>or he doesn't care because the last bullet is for him

Raymond says those things in the comment section.

Pussy hat guy isn't Steve, therefore this is all bullshit.

>The casino will notice and notify authorities quickly.
Unless the authorities are in on the caper.

Pussy hat guy is Steve's friend. At least,that's how the story goes.

Oh well a respected open source hacker said it so it must be true.
Have you accepted the guy in the IT closet as your Lord and Savior?
I have, his word is unquestionable truth.
Everyone in the office respects him and he told me 9/11 was a double bluff inside out job by the Iranians.


Post proofs or kill yourself.

the room of the shooting with the broken windows is in his name, if he broke the windows, then he obviously doesnt think he is going to avoid being identified.

he can still plan on not getting CAUGHT

>why would he bring what is it now, 40+ rifles to his room.

They are saying 47 guns in the hotel room AND at his home, total. I believe the number in the hotel room was 23 (most, but not all, rifles).

Think of it this way

>casually stroll up to window with 100k in small bills
>ask for chips
>fill out a 1099 with your name and ID
>play for a few hours
>you're one of their high rollers
>they know your name and shake your hand
>you're conspicuous
>if you actually win they'll send a copy of your winnings to the IRS
>cash out after only a few hours (I thought this guy came to play)
>ask for a check
>next day
>casually stroll up to window with 100k in small bills

The casino is looking for this type of activity, the IRS is looking for it too. It's extremely conspicuous behavior and well documented with your real name and details.

This was the showroom, not the warehouse. Taking delivery would be a different set of logistics, possibly with entirely different parties and settings.

>crouched in front of the window
>leans back to sit on the floor, legs out
>puts rifle down (ontop of his legs)
>still sitting, pops one
>falls straight back

If there's a legit ANtifa connection we may not hear about anything till after they make raids.
Actually is the only moral reason for the silence.

23 is still way over the top for what you could possibly need or use

it could totally happen
>this one time, I was walking into the kitchen and I slipped on a piece of bacon. then somehow, out of nowhere, a brand new bottle of whiskey apparently landed next to me, the top unscrewed itself, then it bounced and got lodged in my throat; accidentally emptying the entire contents right down the hatch.

if he has ties to Antifa they better declare them a terrorist organisation

Would almost sound juicy except for the fact that that dude in the Pink is fucking clearly not him.

>A) Paddock was supposed to get away and leave the guns behind as SHOCKING evidence, in order to false-flag gun control
>B) Paddock was not a lone operator
>both A and B can be true. B is looking more and more certain.

Yes. It's also possible he was a psycho, had a brain tumor, a bad reaction to meds, or some combination, all at the same time. A crazy person with violent fantasies might well contact ISIS or Antifa and offer to make a splash. There are people like Bob Creamer admitting on tape that they had hired crazies to disrupt Trump rallies. I would not be surprised if some hard left group had the same general idea, of using a wacko for their own purposes.

And it could be that whoever he was working for or with intended to betray him in the end.

yeah you are right. it is possible he is irrational on some level too. doesnt seem very likely tho, given the level of rational thought he had to go through to pull this off, but then you never know do you..

It could have been cartwl violence, no?
Trump has been cracking down on MS-13

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4947082/Las-Vegas-shooter-kept-guns-refrigerator-sized-safe.html

wsj.com/articles/shooter-may-have-had-target-practice-in-the-desert-two-days-before-las-vegas-massacre-1507405771

I meme'd it into reality. Buy my book on meme magic and memetic warfare.

>he's either going to sell guns
>or go full-John Rambo
but hotel rooms and guns registered in his name is a red flag to anyone who will not do business with dirty guns and people easy to find. if inter/pol/ can find out as many details as they have from the comfort of their homes, slapping their Dorito stained elbows together at the comedy here and fapping to anime pR0n, imagine what the pro's can do

It was a drone test by JanetAir. They were testing a gimbal which lets a drone fire handheld automatic weapons. The JanetAir facility is a block away from Mandalay Bay. Paddock may have been set up.

>Post proofs or kill yourself.

Fuck you. "Proofs" in Sup Forums? This is the place for wild-ass speculation and rumors. I'm just relaying one guy's opinion, but as I said, this guy has a rep and would not say these things for clicks. Maybe he's wrong, maybe his source is wrong or a disinformation source. Who knows? But this is all a good mystery so far, and I wanted to see what the autists here would think. I knew I'd get some abuse, but eh, that's par for the course.

Hiding in plain sight has historically yielded better odds during high risk situations such as a arms deal.

However. I doubt that anyone flew from Mexico to buy bumpjunk. That room was a staging room for something far bigger than the plan B that happened.

Look up Kymberley Suchomel on facebook - she was an eye witness that says multiple shooters for sure and was adamant, all of this is still public. Anyway she ended up dead in her sleep at age 28 while her husband was away at work... vvdailypress.com/news/20171009/after-escaping-las-vegas-shooting-high-desert-phoenix-foundation-co-founder-dies-suddenly

>>still sitting, pops one
>>falls straight back

Onto a rifle that he's sitting on...?

again, lets see the proof that the guns in his room are registered in his name


the fucking hotel room doesnt matter if he is running guns. you seem to think that his business partners could easily check who the room is registered to, which of course they fucking cant, especially in a high end vegas casino.

>23 is still way over the top for what you could possibly need or use

True, but he was crazy, which may be a factor in that.

It worked for Ray when he was playing the VLTs at the gentleman's club.

Every one of these conspiracy scenarios requires the collusion of James Paddock, the casino, Las Vegas police department, and probably the FBI. Because that hotel has constant surveillance and both the casino and law enforcement have access. I find it very unlikely that all those people are co-conspirators in the deaths of 58 people, especially if you throw in additional at-large terrorists.

>but he was crazy
you need prove that statement before you make it absolutely

All you have to do is keep your transactions below 10 grand and move from casino to casino. If you accidentally win a jackpot and go over, you declare it like a good goy and pay taxes on it.

Vegas is not the only place in the world that has casinos you know. Paddock traveled to multiple states that have legal gambling. You could launder $100,000 in 11 days at 11 different casinos and nobody would ever know. If you kept moving from state to state and casino to casino you could launder upwards of $3 million a year. It would take work but it's VERY doable.

Not hard to see Paddock was part of AntiFa. Where shit hits the fan is the funding behind it. That leads to Organizing For Action. That so-called non-profit has been funneling money to AntiFa and BlackLivesMatter with the help of the Southern Poverty Law Center (offshore accounts). That is the shocker for the masses.

youtube.com/watch?v=y1OBjfN05MI

Another case:

thesun.co.uk/news/3109447/shocking-moment-gunman-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-the-head-when-avenging-driver-runs-him-down-following-botched-car-park-robbery/

Steve was cartel related, one of the FEW guerros involved in that business, and has a 13 on his neck.

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>he panic-fumbled when the cops arrived and shot himself accidentally

No fucking way. You don't accidentally shoot yourself in the head. And the cops didn't show up. It was a 'security guard' that no one has decided to interview after being shot.

I don’t think Raymond is the type to lie about this.

TICK TOCK DRIP DRIP WHY ARENT YOU SHILLS FLEEING THE COUNTRY?

>again, lets see the proof that the guns in his room are registered in his name
now THAT makes sense; because we don't know, we've been told they were registered in his name

Oh he's that guy? Shit that's a classic book

I dont actually think he was an arms dealer, but I just wanted to point that out. My problem with the arms thing is its lolworthy to think people are going through all this trouble for 20 ARs and that ISIS types wouldnt know that this type of deal stinks like shit.

This makes me worry that if i got patsied, my literature would misrepresent me.

The Carver stuff was gifts!! I do love Gibran. And i own the commie manifesto.

But I'm all about Hesse nihilism and Rand Capitalism and Newton. What kind of mass shooter false flag am I?

ITT: what is the narrative for your patsy mass shooting?

this ties in with the FMC's misappropriation of donations, as will be revealed when they break into the awan laptops and harddrives

Didn't he have a chest wound too?

I thought so too at first, but a gun stuck in a mouth full of blood would just totally vaporize all the pooled blood in his mouth, making a big messy fog that would settle on his face. That is not at all apparent from the leaked body pic. Even someone taking careful aim and firing the headshot from a couple feet away, the bullet would splatter any pooled blood sitting in his mouth. There's just not the kind of blood on his face that a shot the the chest and later another to the mouth would make.

>Kymberley Suchomel
I can find nothing about her claiming multiple shooters.

Poker tables are more realistic. Couldnt you just play a 10/20 or 25/50 game and do a buyin or two a day?

>deal in transactions less than 10k.

That would be a really slow and lame way to launder money because you'd always be on the road. But you wouldn't even be laundering the money because you haven't legitimized it. It's now in your bank account and you haven't paid taxes on almost any of it.

Money laundering is:
>placement
>layering
>integration

Going to the casino with dirty money only places it into your personal bank account (step 1) where it's easily audited. You're skipping the whole laundering process and doing it very conspicuously.

>get audited
>that money in my bank account is gambling winnings
>i paid taxes on some of it

>>but he was crazy
>you need prove that statement before you make it absolutely

Hid dad was a psychopath, his girlfriend says he would lay in bed moaning and screaming, neighbors said he was an angry and unfriendly guy. That's not 100% proof, but it doesn't seem like a stretch to say "crazy."

youtube.com/watch?v=6yhHAC_cPn8

are you fucking serious?

>Kymberley Suchomel
Check her facebook post on October 4th, it's a really well put together account of her experience.

post a screencap pls

>this type of deal stinks like shit.

Great point. It would be retarded for terrorists to agree to a meeting in the most surveilled places in the world with impossible logistics.

You think Paddock was totally sane and innocent? I don't. I think he did it, possibly with some help. He had father issues. His dad was a psychopathic bank robber and con artist, and mental illness is often hereditary. Paddock was known to brag about having "bad blood." He liked violent rape fantasies with hookers. Add to that psychotropic drugs, maybe a brain tumor, maybe Trump Derangement Syndrome, and "crazy" doesn't seem like a stretch to me.

I don't have a faceberg, screenshot what she wrote and post it.

Well yeah I guess, but Vegas is full of foreigners so its not as if arabs will stand out. Again the main point is just how laughable it is that ISIS is going to buy 20 rifles in a vegas casino.

I take it back. She did say multiple shooters.

It makes no sense why "terrorists" would want to buy fully legal guns rather than automatic AKs. Especially considering ISIS was created and is funded by America. To say the "shooter" intended to escape after registering a hotel room with his girlfriend's name is asinine.

But personally, I think it was one shooter, and that people were confused by echoes and thought they saw ground-level shooters who weren't there. Paddock fired from two different windows, which would sound different, probably fired different guns, and he may have fired two guns at once. All of that could sound like multiple shooters to people in the crowd. But people who have analyzed the audio mostly say one shooter.

It would make little sense to me to have a murder plot that involved one guy shooting into the crowd from a distance, AND someone in the crowd also shooting. Paddock wasn't sniping, it was "spray and pray," so it makes no sense to put an accomplice in the crowd.

I assume they're collecting all the bullets.

You can't just "buy" full auto AK-47's.