New York State Constitutional Convention

Any fellow Jew Yorkers want to explain this shit to me? because I'm not sure what to make of all this. One side says vote no, the other vote yes, and both are arguing with buzzwords and meaningless political talk.

the only part I understand is that upstate New York wants to split from New York City, separating NY into 2 autonomous regions (within the same state) Being New Amsterdam, (everything above the 5 boroughs and Long Island) and New York City (the 5 Boroughs and Long Island)

of course however, there's other shit at play here, namely you can vote to add shit or remove shit from the NY constitution. Which is where I'm worried, considering the current state of party politics, especially in places like NY.

Anyone got any redpills on this shit? because as it is, I'm leaning towards voting No, because I live in the 5 Boroughs, and having upstate NY basically cut me loose does nothing to benefit me, in fact, it does the opposite. not to mention, i don't want the liberals in charge of NY right now to get their hands anywhere near a position where they can enshrine some of their retarded shit into the constitution itself. Because there can't be another convention for another 20 years

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nobody?

NY user here lurking. Have a bump because I'd like some answers too.

>tfw trapped on an island with libshits

Save me

Bumping for curiosity

Same. On cuck Island stalling on buying a house because I don't know wtf is going on.

upstate here
i want you out because our areas have nothing in common

Look up the rules of the convention and what it takes to get an amendment through.

LI is not part of NYC

personally
i want long island to be its own state. to close its beaches and parks off to anyone west of nassau county. or at the least make a toll, a very expensive toll. we pay the highest taxes and shouldn’t have to pay shit for the rest of the riff raff in ny state. i concur with upstate new york being its own entity, with a the name New Amsterdam.
let the 5 burroughs eat each other alive.

All the money goes to Albany anyways where the liberals are, you think NYC is the only liberal center of NY? NYC and LI would be much better off as an independent state, and LI would be much better off as an independent state without NYC.

Albany, NY here.
It's true. The area is surprisingly red, despite this area being flooded with undesirables.

exactly 3 states or one

Migrants are constantly invading our state parks on the Island. They need to go back.

Long Islander here, anyone notice we are getting overrun by Islamists and Saudis?

this man gets it

East end?
I see them out by the farms frequently doing the tourist thing. Where do they stay?

There appears to be a division among jews, thankfully. the liberal city fags are being cast away by the somewhat better republican kikes up here.

Brooklynfag here

how late is too late to jump ship and move upstate? Been eyeing a lot of property but if there's still a chance I can move upstate after it becomes New Amsterdam I'd prefer that

three states i’d desire from the current empire state:

long island state

new york state (the 5 Burroughs)

and everything north of the above can be New Amsterdam state or a better name if someone can come up with one .
correct. there’s a reason sunken meadow is called sunken ghetto these days. the traffic caused by all the people west of nassau county is atrocious during the summer and the weekends.

Centerreach seems to be over run. And theres a few Islamist churches popping up near Lake Ronkonkoma.

>the electors of every senate district of the state, as then organized, shall elect three delegates at the next ensuing general election, and the electors of the state voting at the same election shall elect fifteen delegates-at-large. The delegates so elected shall convene at the capitol on the first Tuesday of April next ensuing after their election, and shall continue their session until the business of such convention shall have been completed.

>how late is too late to jump ship and move upstate? Been eyeing a lot of property but if there's still a chance I can move upstate after it becomes New Amsterdam I'd prefer that

Been hearing there are little-to-no jobs upstate since industry moved out due to Clinton era policy.

This is now a Long Island thread

According to liberals, you are evenly split. Each district will get to elect delegates. Nothing will probably get done since there will be no majority.

Faggots
>t.Queensmasterrace

How is it out there? I heard under Bloomberg alot of ghettos were transplanted there, same with upstate.

i would strongly consider moving back home to rochester if we could separate from NYC

low taxes and good gun laws in western again

Mein volk
t. Queenscrew

Vote yes. The libshits in this gay state are fine with wasting tax dollars on illegals, so let those politicians waste more money lining their pockets.

t. a pissed off spic.

Its a shit hole. A lot of half way housing and niggers running around stabbing and robbing banks. Its really gone to shit.

Saw a few sandniggers back when I was a community college bum, but that was like a year and a half ago.

Didn't know South Brooklyn was Republican.

>How is it out there?
Getting bad. Can't justify the property taxes. I went to Middle Island a few days ago and it reminded me of Chicago. Foreclosures and people who don't give a shit about their property everywhere. Something has to change.

FUCK OFF NYC FAG

Can you expand on this? How does voting yes help conservatives?

>New Amsterdam
Long Island here; I'll vote YES, but you fags need to come up with your own name for Christ's sake, New Amsterdam is NYC. I wasn't aware there'd be a plebiscite on the Constitution itself, I just may make Albany my permanent home in that case

Mein Bruder.

Such a shame. The nature out there is beautiful, the small towns are so comfy too.

New Netherland will rise again.

It will never happen. All of NYC protected water is in reservoirs up Westchester, Putnam and Ulster counties. No way NYC-DEP is going to lose all the water. Plus, Rockland, Westchester and half of Putnam are in that "Jew York State of mind."

It's the Russians, they know what communism is like.
Unless we thought we could pull off some massive right wing surge to actually fight off the leftist advance - enshrining abortion rights, gun control, etc into the constitution - the wise course of action is to vote no, imo.
Where in Queens my man? Bayside myself.

Because the state is completely lost. Having a few conservatives here means nothing, so speed up its collapse instead.

>tfw a unique state like NY has a shitty bedsheet flag
Why even bother

That really pisses me off.
I should go to Montauk soon before it turns sour too.

Dafuq would you pick Albany? A nigger hellhole. Colonie ain't bad and Loudenville is still White, nothing to do there but imbibe alcohol.

Thank you.

Will be out there this weekend. Montauk is still relatively nice. No need for the illegal fruit pickers to come out that far east as there are no farms.

That's really funny man, the first thing I thought when I saw your reply was Bayside. I'm in Ridgewood myself.

>tfw when your state flag isn't this

Accelerationist faggot. There are pockets of light in this hellscape of faggotry, kikery, and shitstains. I will by no means betray my New York.

Because >muh city
Other than that though, I don't see myself here for too long. I'd love to live downstate, but they seem to hate families

>No need for the illegal fruit pickers to come out that far east
It's always bothered me how the welfare queen farmers refuse to actually buy farming equipment and are happy to rely upon smelly foreigners. Who fucking cares if it's cheaper they give the Mestizos an incentive to come here

Nazi meet up when??
t. Bushwick gentrifier

the amount of ny larpers itt is triggering me

Vibrant diversity is making itself felt. Movie theaters which, 5 years ago, had majority white patrons are now overwhelmingly non-white. The recent spate of MS-13 gang executions is great too.

Rural upstate NY fag here. Voting yes. Fuck all you city niggers. You guys can have Buffalo and Rochester too.

I thought this was a discussion for the convention. Im not in state so it doesn't much matter to me, but I don't think it will go anywhere based on the rules.

that's fucking staten island you retards

Rochester is the poster child of this

I hope you're privy to what it's been like since 2012...

I'm right on the border of Bushwick. There is so many commies out here among the gentrifiers it's absurd. Fucking Antifa too.

>welfare queen farmers
The same farmer/vineyard families who will claim to be conservative. It's sickening. I keep waiting for the mass deportations so I can get a cheap house but it seems unlikely.

>Nazi meet up when??
HWNDU NY part II when

you must live in a shit area, not a single nigger in the town I live in

I wish I was larping baggot. NY became a cesspool.

Checked

No you dumb nigger he's talking about Sheepshead bay, which is, guess where, South Brooklyn. Pic related. For those curious, the end of the Rockaways is full of Irish and they live right next to the projects, so they're wise to blacks.
I want to open a soup kitchen in a poor neighborhood and then make it explicitly Nazi.
Suck my dick, I've been here my whole life.

nytimes.com/2017/07/05/nyregion/constitutional-convention-voting-new-york.html

I think the worst part is that they're the Leftist scourge from across the country. It'd be different if it were people from the 'burbs coming back, but it's not. These people scoff when they hear a genuine NYC accent

NY has always been a cesspool, LI was the original white flight but there are still some areas pristine.

What borough?

Sounds like a ploy to get in front of any secessionist leanings and give the appearance of going separate ways while keeping the electoral votes together for federal elections.

The town I grew up in is still the 98% white upper middle class paradise it was when I was a kid. 30k property taxes is a fair trade for zero mudfolk.

In any other state a constitutional convention would be attended by delegates chosen from the general populace.

Not in New York, only jews and well more jews would be eligible to attend.

Which kind of defeats the whole purpose.

Not fearing the Antifa male. But around blacks never relax (they don't). If anything, be cautious of a normie built White guy to clean your clock if you speak politically incorrect as it might help him get laid.

Not from NY but it sounds like a Jewish trick desu.
If this wasn't a trick I'd imagine it would at least be a full on separation, with the creation of two states.
My guess is that the left is trying to have their cake and eat it too. It seems like they're trying to get autonomy so they have the freedom from the red parts of the state to pass whatever communist bullshit they wish, while simultaneously not giving the red parts of New York the independence to elect their own senators and their own presidential electors on a federal level.
I really believe that a two state (or three state) solution with New York sounds like a fair solution, but if the city refuses to allow full separation then I say vote no. It just sounds like some genuine bullshit they're trying to pull.

National Socialism brings out the best in all races (I think Sinead McCarthy said that)

We have to vote on whether we update the constitution every twenty years family. OP is confused. That's something that could be done, and people want. Obviously we can do anything that isn't in violation of federal law if we vote to have the convention and vote on the changes. But that's not what we're voting for.

That's the worst thing about it to me. I saw a few amateur comedy shows around here and these people are cultural cancer. They're not funny, and they're being not funny in fucking NYC. Their idea of edgy is what I found dull at 16 yrs old.

are you actually calling me a nigger?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York's_congressional_districts
It's part of the Staten Island district.
You lived in Brooklyn your whole life? I feel bad for the last 15 years of your life then.

DO THE THING

If we get stuck with the commies where should I move to?

Queens is a hastle, desu. Let's get huWhite pizza at Roberta's. Or troll the House of Yes (which would need riot gear cause those faggots can't take a joke.)

Your rights are getting banhammered.

it's almost like OP acknowledged that by saying the 5 boroughs and long island. like it isnt a borough but it could be included in the proposal for a divison of the state

Literally districts 9 and 5, the ones I'm talking about, and presumably is as well, are in South Brooklyn and the Rockaways, respectively. Why do you think he was referring to Staten Island? Been in the city my whole life, left behind the family home in Canarsie when I was about 15 (over a decade ago).

Name the place
Name the time
I don't know how to make this rhyme
But this is never going to happen. But would be good time.

>there are pockets of light
>average joes in the suburbs will vote for faggotry despite not agreeing with it because "dose republicans are mean"

naw it's fucked

I don't bother talking seriously to these people. If they did try some shit I would pick up any nearby blunt object and make them work. They seem to be mostly apolitical and cool so I don't bring up the subject.
I went to that to see Sam Hyde. I didn't stay long, it was funny to see the hipsters so outnumbered but hearing Internet memes irl gets tiresome. We need to get some kind of chat going though, I know we aren't the only ones in the boroughs that feel like this. I've talked to Polish and Romanian people who hate Russians and admire Hitler. Hell, a bartender of German stock seig hailed me before without any prompting

It's not about fucking voting or splitting the state you morons, it's really about cutting union workers pensions (the honest working mans retirement money) so that a bunch of jew beuraucrats getting their money, so VOTE NO

does li deserve two senators?
it is neither sufficiently populated nor sufficiently large geographically, nor historically worthy of being its own state, in my opinion.
not to imply it is bad or that it would suck if i nm lived on LI and were lumped with NYC as a state.
does this open the door to other stat changes?

>Implying I don't want to gut the unions entirely because they've evolved well past their useful intent
SHIGGY

I really want to get something going. I know alot more people think the same as me around here. I've never heard as much casual ethnic slurs as I have here.

Average Joe's are by no means"pockets of light" but 8/10 complicit shabbos goy, porn addicted faggots. Stop the pornography and praise God.

I couldn't think of anything worse for LI than solely sharing a state with NYC

How do we solve the Hasidic problem?

Fuck you dumb fuck. Unions were easily the best thing that happened for common workers in America. They go and then so do our rights

because I didn't think there was a shred of red anywhere but in staten island and LI, thank you for enlightening me

Force them to take showers
Gas Showers

Vote yes, the union workers deserve it for voting Democrat for so long and the fallout will enable Trumpists to steal the unions over to their side and shift NY politics in a new direction

Teachers (glorified babysitters) and LIRR workers are paid far too much due to their greed and unions. Fuck off.

>best thing
>entirely complicit in the third worldization of america as long as they get their cut

Stick around let's fight. We'll chill soon mang

Also the teacher's union donates money straight to the Democrats to keep the gravy train rolling

Burn it all down and start over