1. They are an effective way to project power in a conventional warfare scenario and the battle group is sufficient protection
2. They are only effective in bullying smaller nations into aligning themselves with US interests, in a real war scenario against a half competent enemy they will be quickly sunk as they are weak to anti-ship missiles
Pick one
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It is an military airfield that you can move anywhere on the ocean. The USA also does midair refueling which gives nearly unlimited range to all of its aircraft.
If you can't see the advantage you're blind.
oh and
>implying half competent enemy
China isn't competent, wargames and computer graphics aren't reality.
Large mid-air refueling aircraft need land bases to operate from. The only carrier-based plane I know of that can refuel another is the Viking and I don't think it holds enough to refuel more than a couple of planes if that
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While the carriers and associated battle groups do have immense firepower if they were to be directly targeted their defenses could be overwhelmed by a swarm of incoming anti-ship missiles. They are comparatively cheap(in reference to the targeted battle group) so launching them in great numbers would be the obvious strategy. The battle group's defenses would surely take some out, but it is very likely that with a large enough swarm some will get through and cause damage. Depending on the situation you may only need one anti ship missile with a small tactical nuke to slip through the defenses.
1 aircraft carrier fleet can take out most nations.
The Dongfeng-21D.
Kuznetsov NOW!
3. The carrier projects power more effectively than any other platform but current doctrine may or may not be sufficient to ensure their continued operation in a conventional warfare scenario.
OP is a faggot.
>their defenses could be overwhelmed by a swarm of incoming anti-ship missiles
This is why laser CIWS is so important to develop. Lasers + nuke reactor could be a game changer when it comes to defending against anti-ship missiles.
The US would nuke any country that tried sinking our carriers.
They are considered sovereign territory.
>they are weak to anti-ship missiles
>implying valid targeting information
>implying ECCM
>implying you have any understanding of mass anti-ship missiles
Again, Dongfeng-21D.
Phalanx ain’t gonna do shit to a ballistic warhead during its terminal phase.
>beliving chinese propaganda
>>implying you have any understanding of mass anti-ship missiles
I admit I'm not an expert, this conclusion just seemed logical to me.
It isn't like a video game where you automatically know where they are with pinpoint accuracy.
what a load of horseshit. i rely heavily on aircraft carriers to take over the world in civilization v. it works every time.
>getting all the way to the Modern era without winning yet
Which part don’t *you* believe? 128 mile a second terminal phase, ability to target a carrier, don’t think it exists in the first place?
Or is it all just “America Hell Yeah!” with you?
You're a fucking retard
>magic missile says it can sink USA mighty aircraft carrier
>chinks dont even know how the carriers are built
>implying it will make it past a single CRAM
OP are you ignoring this cute little toy on these ships or are you just trying to fit the narrative?
spooki
>thinks ballistic missiles are magic
>thinks he knows shit about shit
> 128 miles a second
You dumb chink nigger. The atmosphere would vaporize it.
Does the (((Czech Republic))) even have a Navy? Lmaooooooo
The "proper planning" part. Carriers don't go near those things.
Intelligence is like 90% of the battle.
>Battle group gets to edge of range where it is still safe
>Destroys threats
>Moves in
>Destroys next biggest threat
>Moves in
>Destroys everything else
The right threats can overwhelm a battle group but only if you put yourself in a stupid position to begin with.
He miss typed, ICBM standard speed is 128,000 miles per nanosecond
Mmm well it depends..
>mach 600
Oh shit that’s too fast for America
>not having an aircraft carrier build out of Pykrete
How can we even compete?
Swarm of small torpedoes underwater as well.
>implying a 37 year old mini gun is capable of dealing with modern day anti-ship missiles.
> bullying smaller nations
The DPRK, Iran and others are long overdue for some bullying.
Remember that the population and the might of the USA is that of all of Western Europe and allies combined and then some. So when you bully you bully in the name of the Western civilization and the entire civilized world.
This makes it an obligation to act and lead, not just a right. Feel it!
>The only carrier-based plane I know of that can refuel another is the Viking
1, Viking is retired
2, buddy packs on hornets and super hornets is a thing
It's true that most "KC" type aircraft operate from land, but even a fiarly small island like wake or diego garcia can host them. and the fact that they're just huge flying gas cans anyway means they have gigantic range. Nothing stops the land based tanker from flying 3000 miles to refuel for a forward carrier based aircraft that operating 500 miles from its carrier, this is in fact what the navy and airforce do co-operatively every day.
>They are only effective in bullying smaller nations into aligning themselves with US interests, in a real war scenario against a half competent enemy they will be quickly sunk as they are weak to anti-ship missiles
In a real war scenario they wouldn't be travelling alone, but with an entire escort
Israel needs to be bullied until he commits suicide.
>Carriers don't go near those things.
They do operate within range of DF-21D. That's why USN has made such a big push on ABM over the last decade and a half. It's why the Aegis ships in the Pacific were first to receive the Aegis ABM upgrade and the SM-3 interceptors. Of course, in an actual outbreak of hostilities they may choose to back off to a further range, which is the main goal of DF-21D anyway. And from then begins the process you described...
Cool comment, Achmed.
> As of 2015, over 1.7 billion or about 23% of the world population are Muslims[9]
every nation that is worth something keeps making them so they arent dogshit also when it comes to carriers size matters the bigger the better with drones lasers 3D printers and more i think they will reach their pinacle
Which is kind of why the Navy went all-in on railguns and combat lasers in the last decade.