It would seem there are three Geographical Europes based on similar climates, geographies and soil potential.
1. Europe Proper 2. Southern South America 3. Far Eastern Russia (colder, but still suitable)
Why is it that the third is never discussed? >southern half temperate, decent >temperatures could be moderated easily by damming the northernmost portion of the Sea of Okhost >not full (i.e. sparsely populated) >Amur River (known as the Mississippi of Russia) >rich volcanic soil
Objectively one of the best parts of the entire Eurasian grouping and yet nobody is using it to the full extent. Russians are retarded for not developing it further considering it's the best part of their entire country. Given that they don't want it, do you think Putin or his future successors would ever sell the place to a private entity? Put a couple Sup Forums people in charge and it could be good as new.
>Russians are retarded for not developing it further They are developing it further though.
Nolan Davis
Almost no roads due to permafrost, no trains, and it's probably the coldest place on Earth outside of Antarctica
Robert Price
>>southern half temperate, decent >>temperatures could be moderated easily by damming the northernmost portion of the Sea of Okhost Quality opinions, Amerifriend.
Nicholas Sanders
the far eastern part of Russia is the last place the Siberian tiger lives. We are not driving the world's most magnificent animal to extinction because we fucked Europe up. We are going to stay right here and fix actual Europe.
Alexander Smith
>it's probably the coldest place on Earth outside of Antarctica It's literally the coldest place on Earth, including Antarctica.
Grayson Johnson
The minimal temperature was -67°C in Oymyakon I think, while a temperature of -89°C was recorded in Vostok, Antarctica.
Jordan Lewis
Oh actually you're right, I remembered that it was a Pole of Cold, but missed the part where there were Northern And Southern Poles of Cold.
Chase Thompson
Maybe we should occupy the Taymyr Peninsula though, the temperatures are slightly higher and it's almost empty apart from a few settlements like Dikson
Nolan Rodriguez
Nearly discarded your opinion until the last sentence. I agree emphatically.
Wyatt Rivera
Barely. Last thing they did really was begin the spaceport. They could do so much more. >Almost no roads due to permafrost This is patently false. Permafrost does not occur until around the 60° latitude if we're talking about anything near the coast. Anything below that is either far inland or is extremely sporadic (as is the case with Kamchatka with the southern and interior portions of it being less than 25%, classifying in the sporadic zone). >probably the coldest place on Earth outside of Antarctica Not true. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok#Climate en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin#Climate en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomolsk-on-Amur#Climate
>Western Europe & British Isles >Southeastern North America >Southern Cone of South America >Southern Africa >Southeastern Australia & New Zealand >Eastern China & Japan
Luis Clark
All are inhabited by the European subspecies except eastern Asia.
Adam Price
It's fucking cold. Fuckall ariable land. No people. Constant chink menace. Too far away from the metropole.
It's basically our plan B in case nuclear war happens. These far off parts of Russia will remain virtually untouched even accounting for fallout and whatnot.
Eli Baker
>2. Southern South America wat?
Ethan Johnson
This land should be returned to Japan. Then it would be developed in no time, with super fast trains, robots, rule of law, etc.
That brain let means southern Brazilians states, that region across coastal south America.
Grayson Cook
Only if you promise to make anime real.
Zachary Martinez
Southern Brazil, Argentina, Chile, and the Falklands. "The Southern Cone"
Kevin Robinson
Moreover, that is a broad geographical generalization that ignores coastal and other moderating influences (it would have to for the map to not be a complete mess). Continental-Humid, and cooler maritime climates can be found in the Russia Far East which are suitable and Europe-like.
Eli Morgan
why the fuck would you call that second Europe?
Mason Gonzalez
>similar enough climate to Europe for racial Europeans to replicate their society and thrive >proven by them doing exactly that
Chase Bell
>he thinks argentina and chile are european top kek
Austin White
Only because chinks are actually a subspecies of Eurasians so they're not do different, I mean agriculture and comfort Temperature wise, culturally they're very different but then again Slavs are quite different from us as well literally, it just happens they're white, culture wise they're just as aliens as chinks to me.
Owen Gutierrez
>damming the northernmost portion of the Sea of Okhost
Nigga do you want to landlock Russia further? Even now they have to pass through narrow NATO ruled straits every time they try to get a boat in the ocean.
Joseph Scott
>temperatures could be moderated easily by damming the northernmost portion of the Sea of Okhost
Yeah that would be easy. How exactly would you do that?
Bentley Phillips
>using record lows instead of averages And the coldest temperature ever recorded in France was −39 °C. Does this mean France is a frozen wasteland? Of course not. The averages highs and lows are similar to European climes. Also, Oymyakon is a shit example as it's 63.5° north latitude and in the interior. It's not a good representation of the region.
Colton Ross
Its cold enough for you to have constant headaches all your life living there.
Carter Jackson
Your comparison would actually be much more true if you took the east and south-east of Asia >weather is warm and wet enough for things to grow more or less all year without freezing (spoiler alert, far eastern Russia is not "cold but suitable", it's frozen about half of the year) >mountainous terrain that isn't high enough to make movement impossible but still allows settlements to be separated from each other, making it harder to pillage and loot small towns (which is what happened all the damn time in northern China, which is quite flat) >loads of rivers to provide irrigation You might like to know that at one point, Angkor was among the largest pre-industrial cities, and got as large than Rome during its apogee
Camden Walker
Check out Yakutsk then. I don't know any place in Europe where the average temperature in January is -38°C. We are talking about the Russian Far East. Oymyakon is definitely part of it, just like Tomtor or Verkhoyansk.
Isaac Mitchell
>Poles of Cold
Aaron Wilson
>the whole far east has less population than tiny bulgaria lel >they have right wheel drive there toplel
I can't find good overall temperatures for the region though, and I am too lazy to look them up individually and average it out.
Caleb Lewis
If you've never been there kindly go kys. Life exists outside of Pol memes. Those lands were practically untouched by natives because they weren't confortable with the climate. They're almost exclusively populated by Italians/Spanish/Portuguese/Basques/Germans/Dutch , you can't get more European than that. They never imported niggers but worked on the fields themselves which turned Argentina into the largest agricultural exporter worldwide before the USA Jew sunk them with predatory prices. The niggers and native niggers in Argentina are mostly in Buenos Aires which is HUGE and the rest of the country is almost exclusively white or whiteish like Italians in Italy are. Argentina and southern Brazil states are actually 80-85% white which is a lot more than the US or Canada, and given that most "white Hispanics" in the US would be called "mestizos" in Argentina or Brazil it's even more accentuated. For reminder Netherlands and France both are close to 85% whites now, and given the average nigger/sandnigger is a lot darker and worse than the average Native, Argentina is in a much better spot racially than us right now. Don't forget that native blood / genes fade away in 2-3 generations, Arab/Turk/nigger blood never. Black genetics are stronger than white ones in terms of expression but white genetics are stronger than chink/native American/aboriginal ones.
Jaxson Nguyen
>butthurt spic
lmao you're not white pablo
Isaiah Powell
Also I'm French btw. Argentina seemed like a white haven to me compared to Amsterdam/Rotterdam/Lyon or Montpellier.
Blake Lewis
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Jonathan Campbell
That wasn't the average temperature for the Vladivostok which is actually comparable to European climes unlike that obscure northern village you mentioned. The average high temperature for Vladivostok during the coldest month is -8.1° C.
See this post up here ( ), I linked a few cities below the 60 degree latitude which are more than habitable.
Jordan Davis
See Stop learning your facts by memes. A quick search of an Argentinian concert or manifestation should give you an idea of their population. Hell even their football national team has more whites and Germans than Netherlands France and Germany combined.
Owen Thompson
>Yakutsk >obscure northern village
Ethan Murphy
How was this land affected by the last ice age?
If the ice disappeared too recently the population would not reach levels high enough to build civilizations.
Robert Anderson
fuggg....how the fuck does that much shitty insect even survive in tundra? what do they eat?
>komarov v tundri net said guys as mosquitos nimbled his family to death. kek
Zachary Morris
>france >european hahahahhahaha
Aaron Lewis
Fucking native blooded shitskin, you realize even sand coons are whiter than mestizos?
Brandon Powell
No its not. The January average is -13C, which is 6 degrees Celsius colder than even Moscow. Its also the southernmost part of the Russian Far East, meaning that most of the Far East will be much colder.
Conclusion: you are retarded.
Zachary Cox
I'm French you fucking 58 percenter. The features of sand coons never wear off. Mestizo shit coloured skin gets bleached way more easily. Chuck Norris has native blood and is redhead. If he had Arab blood he would still have pussy lips, kike nose and a weird grain in his skin. Okay you're just trolling at this point. Keep sucking marroncoon cock.
Henry Davis
Daily mean for Sofia vs Vladivostok °C >January: −0.5 vs −12.3 >Feb 1.1 vs −8.4 >Mar 5.4 vs −1.9 >Apr 10.6 vs 5.1 >May 15.4 vs 9.8 >Jun 18.9 vs 13.6 >Jul 21.2 vs 17.6 >Aug 21 vs 19.8 >Sep 16.5 vs 16.0 >Oct 11.3 vs 8.9 >Nov 5.1 vs −0.9 >Dec 0.7 vs −9.1 >OVERALL 10.6 vs 4.9
You can see Russian temperatures are half of Balkan temperatures. And living in Sofia we put insulation on all buildings, all own big great coats, we have a lot of snow every winter, and it feels pretty fucking cold overall. Vladivostok is twice as bad. I wouldn't live there.
Julian Richardson
Leave France alone
Charles King
Meant for
Benjamin Ramirez
Tuvans and other such people are like that, nobody knows why because they live so far no one cares about what they do.
Jayden Rivera
Native blood is fucking cancer, I can spot that shit a mile away just like you can spot Arab blood.
Henry Hall
Vladivostok and the surrounding areas are developed. But theres a bunch of chinks.
Christian Campbell
That was actually pretty tame by North Asian standards.
Kayden Martin
Russia is actually homesteading it atm. even to foreigners who can prove they have russian ancestry.
Dominic Howard
You keep cherry picking regions outside the eastern coast and above the 60 mark. That's more comparable to Siberia than the fairly temperate Russian Far East.
Far southern, Sakhalin and the coast near it and slightly above it are more than habitable. Even regions above it and parts of Kamchatka, although slightly cold, are doable.
Juan Parker
The Russian Far East has various climates. The hyper-continental climate of Yakutia is part of it.
Jace Russell
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Jose Sanchez
>Average high
Its called high for a reason. You don't get the average high, on average.
Jaxson Mitchell
>You don't get the average high, on average Sometimes you are above it. Sometimes you are below it. Hence the average.
Parker Edwards
Eeeeehhh
Alexander Martinez
No, you nigger, average high is what (on average) the highest temperature throughout the day is. It may be that temperature for 5 minutes, its the highest recorded temperature that day. And you average these highest recorded temperatures, and you get the average high.
What you want is the daily mean, the row bellow it. It gives a better representation, since it accounts for how much of the day a temperature is at a certain value.
Luis Cruz
That goes without saying. Average high is more useful as it gives a better indication of what the daytime temperatures are like. That's why whenever you see the forecast for the day, they usually give the expected high rather than the average as it's more useful.
It's a fact though. Republic of Tuva is #1 by murder rate in Russia (beating Chechnya and other lovely places). Tuvans love to carry knives everywhere, and use them to settle various disputes between each other. Mongol genes I supose.
Jaxson Peterson
>daily mean : -12.3° that's what you should pay attention to here
Angel Peterson
>why the fuck would you call that second Europe? Because he's so desperate to get away from nigger beasts he's considering pipe dreams.
Isaac Gray
You'd get used to it.
Jonathan Allen
Your crops and the freezing temperature wouldn't. Also, with this whole thing about temperature, you guys are kinda forgetting that these places do not have many rivers, hich is kind of important for settlements to grow.
Colton Lee
Fuck off we're full.
Luke Bailey
I see, I supposed it makes sense. At night you are most likely to be at home, where temperature can be manipulated if its well insulated.
Still even if you compare the high temperatures, its colder than Europe. Including the parts of Europe that have very cold winters and are the reason the EU needs to be careful with Russia.
Carter Taylor
Also, humidity makes a big difference. Vladivostok is very humid due to being a seaport, and in winter it turns into icy hell.
Cooper Taylor
Yet you still want to hold on to that territory.
Robert James
You can grow potatoes, turnips, carrots, cabbage, kale, and cauliflower in Iceland. Tomatoes, cucumbers and green peppers are also grown there in geothermaly heated greenhouses.
Wheat is a global market resource, you don't need to produce it. You just want to produce stuff that gets spoiled fast or is hard to transport.
Ethan Torres
Dude, lmao. Just make big channels with large doors.
Luke Torres
In very specific areas of Iceland, and largely thanks to warm springs providing water and heat. As for greenhouses, it would depend on the sunlight exposure.
Jace Morales
>growing anything in winter time Look at the actual growing season (late spring-early fall) for most crops. Vladivostok and the southernmost parts of the far east are more than suitable for agriculture.
Elijah Lopez
the problem IS the tundra
thousands of pools of still water littered all over the place
to purge mosquitoes we must build hills or some shit so the water runs off.
Jace Peterson
Look at your daily averages again. You are below freezing temperatures five months out of twelve. In Vladivostok, the southmost point of the region. There is a very good reason why this area did not grow into "a second Europe" and only had a very small population and no, it's not because "the russians and chinks" are retarded. FFS even in Scandinavia there were problems with sustaining the population with agriculture, hence all the seasonal migration and raiding populations engaged into.
Jack King
Being a New Zealander you wouldn't understand, but there's this concept called snow and it starts melting when the temperature rises high enough. Mosquitoes then utilize these puddles of melting snow.
Adrian Ward
Alright your tiny population of less than 300,000 Tuvans doesnt explain why your country of 140 million people; 111 million of which are ethnic Russians has sub-saharan Africa tier homicide rates (Worse than some actually)
Unless these small minorities are some of the most violent sons of bitches on the face of this earth kill everyone and sight it doesnt make sense.
Hell even the parts closer to Europe are in the 5-12 range. Thats literally on par with Africa numbers. And to think it was way worse 10 years ago. You Russians are violent eh?
Zachary Jones
russian far east is cold as shit
the only reason norway is even remotely inhabitable is the gulf stream
Brandon Lewis
try not being violent when you eat only mres and vodka also most of the shit is done by our breed of niggers
Dominic Turner
>if you are foreign, you get to keep the land if you stay there for five years Welp. >inb4 Sup Forumsacks go create an anarcho-fascist microstate and fail
Elijah Nguyen
post yfw climate change
William Long
what about New ENgland New Fundland. Lorenz-River Area - possibly great lakes region?
Isaiah Fisher
For regions at the same latitude (around 60+ degrees) you are right. However, you're forgetting that a good bit of the Russian Far East lies well below the latitude Norway is sitting and these parts in particular are not cold as shit nor are they inhabitable.
Lincoln Bennett
>rest of the world heats by 5 degrees >norway gets an ice age
ebin
might make kamchatka nice tho
Samuel Hughes
a russian hobbit appears
Bentley Mitchell
zoomed out view of hobbit
Aaron Clark
Might allow Russia to use the Arctic ocean to trade, and all the goods that go around the Pacific or have to go around India and Africa will pass through them instead. China and Japan to EU trade could go through them, good money.
Zachary Richardson
Nork bordertown
Luis Sullivan
> What is Gulf Stream and why northern Europe not freeze to death.
