Spanish government and opposition announce that they've agreed to change Spain's Constitution and territorial model as an exit to the secessionist crisis.
While no further details explained, Catalan sources seem moderately happy with the announce and some consider Spain has just opened the door to turn itself into a Union of Republics.
>Ah yes, "Federalism" [spoiler]When will you guys stop believing the PSOE/PSC lies. [/spoiler]
Hudson Nelson
>Implying federalism works when no one in Extremadura and Murcia do jack shit
Austin Brooks
Daily reminder that this is the perfect Spain
Oliver Davis
10/10 would live in.
Grayson Gray
We could now colonize you all for the sake of payback.
Although, in my head that just means going in and getting drunk in every last town/city.
Henry Turner
>All political groups except Ciudadanos and ERC (including PP, UPN, Bildu and PDeCat) have joined the proposal to change the territorial model and the constitution
this gon b fun
Christopher Adams
what does this mean
Tyler Gutierrez
>you get your recognition as nation >but inside spain
the inter-regional chimpout is going to be extreme
Juan Phillips
kek
puigdemonts strategy worked
get fucking rekt spain
Joseph Moore
HOWLING
William Bell
6 months of arguing about federalism with no results. Might be ok if we actually federalize into something like this but they're probably going to use the current regional model anyway and those regions already have a lot of power so pretty much no change.
Jayden Sullivan
Rajoy declared 155. This reform is just a smoke screen for the EU to claim that they have had a dialogue
Dominic Morris
Any source of this new in English please.
Charles Carter
Special in what sense? T-that's not an insult is it?
lel Alb*cete btfo
Hudson Hernandez
Ah, that's what their endgame is all about. Turning spain into a republic. No monarchy, forever.
I didn't watch it because I'm not interested in anything to do with spics
Go back to Somalia, Abdul
Jack Wilson
I see.....lots of bombs going off in spain soon.
Alexander Williams
Spanish Civil War 2.0 when?
Zachary Adams
Not soon enough
Justin Wilson
>Union of Republics. so it's setting itself up to be Yugoslavia 2.0? It's a mistake.
Christian Nelson
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Logan Flores
Sánchez agreed on applying Article 155, but the change in the Cnstitution was just a suggestion on his party's behalf. It's not agreed upon both parties as of now.
Carter Hughes
>discussing politics on a board infested by nazis and conspiracy theorists
>not interested What are you doing in this thread??
>Abdul Allah save the queen!
Joseph Ortiz
National Socialism is a political theory, though. And most conspiracy theories involve politics.
Brayden Williams
wat the actual fuck
Josiah Williams
...
Ayden Johnson
>Andaluces >AL-ANDALUS
Jordan Allen
Fake and gay
Isaac Watson
the separatist will get what they wanted, money
Xavier Peterson
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Jonathan Walker
Rajoy NO. We want independence not remaining in Spain even with more autonomy. You're supposed to go hard on us not soft.
Evan Ross
You know something is wrong with those separatist movements when they always include a star in their symbols.
Jason Hughes
You know something is wrong with separatist movements when they EXIST
Brayden Fisher
The Syrian opposition now has land in Al-Andalus?
Nathaniel Nelson
I fixed that for you
Daniel Campbell
put vasques and navarros together then valencia catalans and balears together then you have esukalherria and catalan countries but they all get more castillan cause of the population from navarra and valencia if franco wasn't a moron he would've done that also no need for extremadura to not be castille or asturias ofr not joining leon
Levi Perez
> Be Brit > Read "La Internacional" > Be so retarded that you recognize obvious cognate
Charles King
Fix2.0 Шпaнијa јe тypcкa
Josiah Adams
lmao ciudadanos >muh 10000 syrians >muh godly constitution >muh evil nationalism >muh eu they are a fucking joke
Samuel Nelson
>catalan countries >not the crown of aragon
You had a job.
Sebastian Perez
>lmao ciudadanos I thought they were supposed to be /ourguys/
Andrew Jackson
>crown of aragon >not dynastic union of Fernando II and Isabel I
wtf?
Henry Robinson
This
Ethan Cook
they are the most /ourguys/ of the parties with representation in our parlament, which is not saying much
>mfw no vox in the parlament for maximun pablemitas butthurt
at least ciudadanos makes the independentists rage
Chase Gomez
>dynastic union of Fernando II and Isabel I >Not visigoth kingdom
WTF?
Jackson Nguyen
they don't speak aragonese or catalan so no point being togethere, they are castillan at this point
Alexander Price
>Muslims are taking control over Iberia Nice
William Clark
they are absolutely not ourguys they are basically merkel the spanish party they just go against catalans and some manolos have been shiling against catalans so you ate the propaganda
Adam Powell
another gaylover party who've never said shit about inmigration?
Owen Rogers
>Catalan sources seem moderately happy with the announce They shouldn't, it levels the ground with the REST of spanish territories, which would be awesome for everyone but them.
Cooper Hernandez
you can see the truth in this >at least ciudadanos makes the independentists rage in thisstill better than nothing I guess
Kevin Flores
The only time Spain has ever been relevant was when Iberian kingdoms were united.
What did separate Iberian kingdoms achieve before that?
>Get raped by Germanic barbarians >Get raped by Arabs
Whoop-tee-doo
Isaac Hughes
>they are basically merkel the spanish party How is this different from the PP? >at least ciudadanos makes the independentists rage Why do they get butthurt?
Kevin Sullivan
Become a United Kingdom of Iberia or something. Galicia can be your Northern Ireland, Portugal your Republic of Ireland, Catalonia your Scotland and the Basque Country your Wales.
Bentley Rogers
>Why do they get butthurt? Thy are catalonians, except extremely right-wing and patriotic, because the rubberband effect works.
Blake Hernandez
This is good. Federations > unitary states. Federalisation of Romania when?
Tyler Scott
>Spaniards >spics I see 'Murricans aren't the only people that are moronic on a massive scale.
David Watson
What is Portugal?
Brayden Ramirez
they are the same >Why do they get butthurt? they are just anticatalan, a party of catalan renegades and castillans living in catalonia rightwing? you mean liberal and they are not patriotic, they are traitors, a castillan fifth column
Ethan Cox
>they are traitors So patriotic to their actual country, Spain, yes.
Ian Garcia
God damn it now I just want to play Crusader Kings 2 again.
Jason Foster
spain is a kingdom/state, not a nation
Oliver Jenkins
Only the Portuguese were able to get away from Spain. Bad ass!
Aiden Stewart
But it's a country, enough to call them patriotic.
Julian Allen
I like them. They seem to be the ones handling this problem with energy and decision. Kind of oportunistic demanding elections in catalonia and I think they don't have it as bright as they think over there. But I respect their boldness.
Christian Moore
>I think they don't have it as bright as they think over there. They have a really good shot right now, they are the biggest anti-independence party there and it's easy to capitalize on that.
Nathaniel Phillips
Who's the commies?
Josiah Roberts
>meme countries splitting up Now that's very unexpected.
Jace Phillips
Muahhahaha! Union of Republics!
Brody Cooper
wrong m8
Oliver Martin
no, they are statists, bootlickers and imperialists, their nation is castille, not spain
>They have a really good shot right now, they are the biggest anti-independence party there and it's easy to capitalize on that.
Eh. I doubt all people that voted for separatists, which are a majority, will flock over to the ones who insisted on going all 155+military on their own region.
Still their best shot i guess.
Michael Cook
No, he exists cause spain can't tolerate people learning catalan The whole party was form with only one objective: making all spanish schools in catalonia I have no respect for that kind of jacobinis, and if castillans learned from history they'd know that everytime they have tried that they have lost part of their territory but castillans are too proud to learn All of the party members are also lawyers wich is a terrible sign.
Bentley James
I'd say now that they actually know what the independence is actually doing to their own region, companies running away with the UE actually checking they did so, threats of corralito and stuff. Voting any other party if you are against it is retarded.
Jayden Turner
by demanding 155 in their own region? lol he is making a campaign for ruling spain, not catalonia
Charles Clark
I dunno, user. The prusés has kicked logic out of the park. It's just feelings and catalans don't seem to be sending out any signal of regaigning any contact with reality.
They don't seem to care enough about whatever comes later.
Christian Adams
According to this user: archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/144523495/#q144534399 >ciudadanos >created as a copy of the french globalist party En Marche! >only spanish political party to be invited to the Bilderberg Club >its leader is a kike
Jonathan Peterson
They honestly think being smug and extremely condescendent is enough. >you should be THANKFUL we suspended the independence to talk >aren't we AWESOME and PROGRESSIVE?
Jeremiah Morales
They're demanding autonomical elections so my waifu arrimadas can have a shot.
Carson Foster
>created as a copy of the french globalist party En Marche! More likely it was the other way around. Ciudanos was founded in 2005, and En Marche! was created in 2016.
Ayden Price
he gets chocked by a catalan dick every night lmao nice waifu you got there
Nathan Anderson
checked
pugdelmont is gonna end his life in the bunker with cyanide pills
Charles Turner
>We didnt get what we wanted but here's a bone the government threw us so it doesn't look like we're coming back empty handed
Catalonia is run by pussies
Gabriel Harris
>he gets chocked by a catalan dick every night lmao >he Is there something I must know?
Christian Watson
>He
Matthew Hall
I doubt they would jail him. That would make him a martyr.