Is joining the military a bad idea?

I am fully aware of ZOG first and foremost, but I need a major change of pace in my life. I am considering trying to join as an officer, any previous or current mil guys here offer insight?

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How old are you? Have you considered Praxis?
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What's the motivation outside a drastic life altering event? Do you use drugs? Relationship ended? Have no family? Want no family? Want to kill?

if your friends consider you trustworthy, if you value the integrity of what you say, you should absolutely join, those who are unfit for duty should consider politics, take a course on government and run for office

for some people it is, for others it is not.
do you like to travel?

LOL. You odn’t “Join” as an officer. You enlist. If you want to be an officer you have to be invited.

Do not join the Coast Guard
if you are half as bad as pvt pyle was from FMJ you will be discharged from bootcamp with a quitters discharge even if you never said you quit.
And my recruiter didn't tell me any of this shit
>not overseas serving ZOG
In times of war the USCG can be temporarily annexed into the US NAVY

Cunt if Dusty said you shouldn't.

I don't want to post the video

>aware of the ZOG
>wants to join ZOG death machine
lmao retard

wow so brave of you to criticize the military on Sup Forums. how do i achieve this level of courage?

it's the American Foreign Legion like the French Foreign Legion of old, politically

Basically if you're front line you're a prison guard and all the niggers have guns bombs etc and are rioting and you catch dindu in the act and put a bullet in his skull

everyone else is just support, except the Navy, they're Sea Traffic Control for international shipping

The army specifically?

I have a college degree and was a fire fighter for a while. It's something I've wanted to do for the camaraderie etc, dont know if it'll be the worst mistake of my life.

You get good skillsets, but you serve a Jewish cause. I think it's not worth it because you could be deployed to die for a Jewish senseless chess game any minute.

Well he's not wrong. He can be the most virgin fedora tipping loser, but a fact is still a fact.

Good luck with your life in the hands of the niggers and non-whites you will be working with for the defense of Israel.

Do not join the military. It's all bullshit. If you do, prepare yourself for a lifetime of physical and mental issues (regardless of whether or not you see combat), a chain of command that constantly looks for reasons to ruin your life, and the very real possibility in dying in a war that's not your problem.

I don't know how much firefighter get paid, but have you seen the paycheck for E2-E4?
I'm sure firefighters get paid better, and if you decide you want to quit bootcamp you will be forbidden from getting any federal job for 6 months

Just got to 82nd airborne ama

actually i was waiting for your faggot army of spics, gender queers, retards and niggers for a land invasion so i could "critisize" them in person with my AK47

Only bluepilled faggots go in the military

holy fucking shit you're retarded

Why not? In the US it is easy, you can avoid combat if you want, have so many choices where you wanna work, you get a free education, amazing pension etc.

I'm amazed Americans don't complain how much tax dollars goes on military, it's basically another form of neetbux.

OP should join the chairforce and play with predator missiles n shiet. Like playing call of duty and getting paid doing it.

How old are you?

Former Army officer here. If you're an internally motivated individual, army life SUCKS. You will be surrounded my mediocre shitheads that suck balls at their job. ARSOC and SOCOM are the last parts of the military that don't fucking suck dick. If you're going to get your commission it will be at least 4 years until you even get the opportunity to try out for a job in those commands, other than the shit POG jobs.

Actually, no. I decided to get out as a Major.

Just shut the fuck up and let the adults talk.

Why don't you instead try literally anything else? It's a big world out there. Huge

if you are a leader, then form a militia. plenty of domestic enemies.

In my opinion there are only two branches of the American military, the Army and the Navy.

The Air Force is a corporation and the Marines are a cult.

its worth it. you're gonna want to learn to fight for when the racewar comes. go infantry.

tfw want to go through boot camp to put hair on my chest

First off, officers don't go to basic training in the Army, unless you get an OCS contract. Second, basic training is the easiest fucking 9 weeks in the Army. It's not grueling, its not hard, its easy as fuck. Unless you're a mentally weak, soft-bodied, lard ass.

give me demanding physical training my guy

nice try shlomo

First off If a >35 yr old retired major is cruising an autism fueled nazi fan page on an anime website I'm defecting. And also you apply for a commission after 4 yrs of college or get it through the ROTC you human paraquat.

It'd be worth it just to rock the throwback pinks and greens.

whats wrong with learning to kill subhuman shitskins? because israel currently benefits from it? who cares, we'll gas them all soon enough.

Do you have a Bachelors degree? You will need one to join as an officer.

It's what I am going to do. I'm going to university and join the Air Force ROTC program. It's a guaranteed commission if you succeed.

My dad was in the Army and he said it was the best thing he ever did, but he sometimes wished he would have joined the Air Force instead.

if i was going to join the military, what would be the best MOS and whatnot to enlist as?

I'm well over 35 and I really get a kick out of cruising your playground. It's like watching kids play in a park. I just don't have to feed pigeons to do it.

I did and it was hella gay. Killed 3 ppl tho thats p cool

Oh... you didn't attend college...

why don't you form a well regulated militia in your hometown and beat up niggers with sticks?

Officers go to Basic Training for Officers which is essentially 6 weeks of 8 hours of lectures a day. As a Field Grade Officer you go to Advanced course.

I was in the guard for 10 years and was able to live the pseudo neet life for over half it by just working a couple days a month and living off deployment blood money. I wish I would've been working during that time now but I was living the dream at the time

regardless of your MOS you will learn how to kill humans that is what BOOT CAMP is for
later on you can sharpen your skill in the Shottting range at the base you are stationed
you can get any MOS without the need to risk your life and still learn how to fight

i met plenty of enlisted that had college degrees and couldn't get a commission. the days of automatically getting a commission because you had a BA ended in 1945.

13b field artillery. Probably the whitest mos and no women. You might even get a decent bonus

>like watching kid play in the park

uhm wat

My brother got a herniated disk, trench foot, and suffered perminant nerve damage at 19 in the marines; not even while in combat, though his combat effectiveness was undoubtedly reduced.

Politics asside, it will fuck you up.

Yeah, like watching kids play. It is entertaining. some are borderline brilliant some are retarded and keep stepping on rakes. Never a dull moment.

Do you often go to the park to watch kiddos play?

Hell yes do the service. And do good things, user.

lel

If you're joining to get away from feminism, bullshit and the PC way of life

It won't happen there. You'll be disappointed
There's so much faggotry, jealousy, backstabbing and infighting within the ranks it'll make you want to go awol.

Just join the foreign legion, earn some euros, get an alias, dual citizenship and seek your glory elsewhere

Nah, 3.5 years of my life as a POG, helped me get a BS in physics, now I'm getting paid to be a graduate of physics, not a single penny in debt.

Former Army here. It can iron out your flaws. Make you more of a "man". Basically correct all the shit that neglectful parents and a warped society do to you. And you'll stand out among the soyboys. I sometimes think 80% of the girls that are interested in me are just military fetishists. They're so disgusted by the feminized millennial men that I look like some relic of times past, back when men were men. Even though I'm still a complete beta at heart.

Why should I physically go to a park when I can just come here?

You don't enlist to be an officer, you are commissioned as an officer.. enlistees are non-officers. You need either college degree or go through OCS after some time as an enlistee, we call that the green to gold program, (I don't know if you can sign a contract directly into OCS, I wouldn't think so).

Hardship shapes character. A lot of people never leave their comfort zones and as a result have no will and not steel in their spine.
Never once regretted serving.

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>thinking of new ways to watch kiddos play

woke af

My dad is a retired E9 and he says the military is filled with losers, idiots, failures and military brats. That's it. He says it's even worse now since people are just joining for the gib-me-datz and nothing else.

Had a professor tell my class while at college the exact same shit. ROTC students got triggered and the veterans in class laughed and said he was right. So yeah.

Glad you understand. You kids amuse me. I will admit, I have learned some things from you. My generation couldn't even begin to think about the JQ.

>watches kids play
>learns things

some serious big brain activity going on here

13B (combat engineer) you get to blow shit up

Ranger or 18X.

1. get stem degree
2. Become STEMLORD
3. build cool shit

>good skillsets
>good skill
>skill

there is only one fucking thing you can do after leaving the military.

The military changes over time, like everything else. I got out over a decade ago. So my experience is way in the past. Even then it was less than what it had been.

My dad was in the Army in the late 1940s. When he went to Jump School the Black hats were veterans of places like Bastogne and Normandy. The Brown Shoe Army. He said those guys didn't give the first fuck. He told me a story about sitting on the benches in week two looking up at the 32 foot tower and some guy dind't get his riser hooked up and did a face plant from 32 feet. Dead. Like that. He said they just dragged him off to the side and kept training. Dead soldiers was not something that even made those guys blink.

When I went to Jump School in 1980 they were pretty careful about injuries but even so we ran in combat boots. We had a couple females but almost all washed out.

When I got out there were so many single mothers it was ridiculous.

If you want to go as an officer you need to apply and go through boards and get selected before going to OCS if you already have your degree
I'm in right now, I dunno if I'd do it again. filled with skaters and shitters and awful leadership. Everyone looking to retire and get out and milk more money off the government by creating positions only they can fill as contractors. fucking welfare queens
fucking shitty admirals who kill sailors and get out with 100k pensions

of course most of them are retards. most people in general are retards. the military forces you to learn to deal with these retards and teaches you how to handle them. knowing how to deal with constant chaos is a good skill to have.

Read Catch22. Great book. The takeaway lesson is that "You can't trust an officer above the rank of Major". That is the point at which you have to put yourself above everything else.

Others have already described the process of joining. You don't want to remain commissioned as a 2LT though. Once you are commissioned you want to begin the process of converting to a WO1.

Warrants don't have the grief of managing the enlisted (that's left to the NCOs) and the officers tend not to mess with them because they're single-track specialty officers (unlike officers who are generalists), subject matter experts in their field.

You may have this mixed up. I worked with many Warrants. One does not go from 2LT to W01. Usually Warrants are in a tech field and crossover from E5 or so.

yeah I'm just getting out a lieutenant (O-3 in Navy) I don't see myself as doing this shit for much longer. I'm just frustrated, you see all this shit going on in the leadership and I just have to take it, 19 fucking sailors died before they thought "gee maybe something is wrong with 7th fleet. I'll just let the people responsible take an early 100k pension retirement while i retire with my 200k pension and go contractor and sell more shitty ships and equipment back to the navy. Then the academy circlejerk
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you can't fucking do that you go enlisted>warrant or enlisted>officer or enlisted>warrant>officer
warrants are the technical experts because they learnt all about their subject as enlisted/NCOs in their career

That's true. Most convert from enlisted to warrant, typically somewhere between E4 to E6 depending on MOS, however, officers may do so too. Since the OP believes he's eligible to be commissioned an officer (I'm assuming he's already done the prerequisite research) I simply offered him an alternate to remaining a one, which from O1 to O3 is filled with a lot of BS.

I was in the Army Medical Corps and even that was frustrating. They had a mind set that was brain numbing. I kept trying to tell folks that "You manage paper clips, you have to LEAD people." Too many didn't get it and in a peacetime Army they just didn't see the need.

I had the Black Hats a Jump School to thank for teaching me that. When you are a 2LT and have a stick full of retards that keeps getting you dinged you have to learn to babysit them every goddam hour. They absolutely will not respect you if they can see you sliding one single thing. When you have a Company of retards it gets even harder because you have to get it through the heads of your LTs and NCOs that they have to be perfect in all ways as well. If the men see you trying to get over even one single thiing they lose respect for you and you are DONE.

I never heard of anyone going from 0anything to Wanything. I suppose it would be appealing if you got tired of herding retards. Actually, I shouldn't be so hard on the troops. They are just kids and I had a number who went on to be great soldiers.

Yes, you can convert from commission officer to warrant, but each WOMOS has its technical requirements to do so. One can acquire the technical skills as a 2LT, and to qualify to be an aviator the conversion process is easier than say for a signalier.

I honestly believe that NASA is a money farm for experimental USAF aircraft. Everything NASA does on its own gets scrapped immediately but when it's a NASA USAF joint X-craft it has successful testing then moves to USAF exclusively while NASA works on 12ft model airplanes. NASA hasn't done shit except for help fund startups for USAF. Also look into the weird experimental stuff DARPA has down the pipeline. Why the fuck does the DOD have their own separate skunkworks?

I don't know army so if that's the case so be it.
Navy is enlisted > warrant/LDO only

>I was in the Army Medical Corps and even that was frustrating.
I applied to the medical corps and I'll hear back in a month. Should I do it? What am I in for?

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The Army has an unusual situation, or did when I was in. Almost al pilots are Warrants so they don't have to deal with the hassle of leadership and command. I don't think the Navy or Air Force do that. From what I understand the Navy requires pilots to have a number of "other duties as assigned" that gives them some command experience and the Air Force I think does require Command for promotion. I think an Army Helo pilot can go his entire career and not have a lot more than his airframe to be responsible for and that only when it is in the air.

This guy gets it. You have two options if you want to be an officer.
1 You join the ROTC in college, and work your ass off to prove you're better than your peers and hop that they will grant you a contract allowing you to enter the military as an officer.

2 You are doing a job that requires advanced education beyond a 4 year degree, that the military feels they need more people capable of doing and you are invited into their ranks as a WO.

Outside of that, I have never heard of anyone just joining as an officer.

You accept your commission as a 2LT upon completion of OCS. Next you have your service obligation to complete. Once you have completed your time, you go through the selection board just like everyone else applying for WO. If selected, you will resign and re-appoint as a WO1. If you made 1LT prior to bring selected, you will "fast-track" to CW2.

The key to this is planning and preparing your packet. Most 2LTs aren't aware of this because they're young and dumb, and by the time they do so they're already on their career path.

Warrant is the best career path in the Army, but outsiders don't know much about it.

What are you now? When I got my Commission it was basically to pay for Med School. At that time you had to be accepted to Med School to get the Commission.

If you are in Med School, what do you hope to specialize in? At this time almost all Primary Care folks are Osteopaths. If you want to be a specialist (ENT, Ophth., etc.) I would think pretty hard about it. There are only 4 ranks in the Medical Corps and it is a pretty flat pyramid. They need thousands of CPTs, much less need for Majors, even less need for LTCs. etc. So at each rank the Army's attitude is going to be, basically, what do we have to do to piss you off enough to leave.

When was that book written? It's now totally backwards, a Major and above are the only ones you can trust and even then it's sketchy. I've sat in on assemblies where the unit commander riles up his troops by calling them all "duds" and insinuating they were worthless, for no reason at all. Keep in mind this was who would lead them into battle.

Almost everyone else is quick to throw each other under the bus. You even see it ITT and yet they remain completely oblivious. This is why morale is so low, it's nearly non existent.

ps: After this colonels inspirational speech where he alienates his own men he asked for volunteers (he was looking for a door gunner on his blackhawk), not one soul raised his hand. All that auditorium needed was a chirping cricket to complete the scene. I almost broke out in laughter when I saw the looks on everyones faces. Eventually, a new guy from our platoon volunteered, 1 of maybe 3 in the entire unit. This dude was on the brink of desertion, he wanted out so bad that he'd do anything just to get away from our troop.

That book (Catch22) was written about WWII just shortly after the war. Pure fiction but it gives one a sense of "what it felt like to be there".

Take advantage of it to gain useful skills and knowledge for any future struggles you endure.
AND you can buddy up with plenty of people, some fellow thinkers even, if you aren't a complete faggot.

Bonus points if (AFTER YOUR CONTRACT ENDS OR YOU'RE IN THE STATES USING EXTREME OPSEC) you can bring a few of said men onto our side but that's a whole different can of worms.

Also going to shill this while I am at it
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Oh and meme related but unrelated
You know the risks I'm sure OP

Can a Lead joins the Marines? I'm a mechanic and electrician

Like I said, you have to lead people. If they can't see that you can and are willing to do everything they do, to suffer everything they suffer, they will not respect you. My sense when I was in was that most successful junior officers understood that and most NCOs knew that getting this point across to their officers was their highest priority.

Once you get up above Field Grade the survivors are Pointers or whatever and their career is all that is really important and if the General says the sky is green the sky is green, goddamit.

Pharmacist, 1 year out of school and licensed. The 3 year contract will pay all my tuition bills. I could probably do the same with a stressful retail job, but I figured the work environment would be better in the military. That's why I was worried when you said your experience is frustrating, but obviously the pharmacist and MD experience is much different.

Ignore the shills, former USMC infantry 2007-2011, AMA OP

I was considering doing OCS for the marines. Can you tell me anything about it? I hear being a 2LT is absolute balls, and nobody takes you seriously. Need a rundown.

I'm about to graduate with a killer resume (internships at White House, big banks, etc) but because I'm a HUWITE MALE I don't think i'm going to be getting the options or the salary that will make a boring career worth my time. I'm planning on setting a high minimum salary, and if nobody offers it, I'm going to OCS. Would be pretty cool to reach MARSOC eventually.

Google a recruiters office and ask them faggot, I'm a dual citizen and I joined up in 2006 by calling a Marine Corps office just over the border in Buffalo, NY.

Correction, the Marines program is OCC, the Officer Candidate Course, and offers 2LT status contract after the 10 weeks.