Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
How do you account for the core pillar of your ideology (egalitarianism) not being present in any notable area of nature?
Jack Barnes
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Jordan Collins
What do you mean? Under Communism a factory worker is equal to a brain surgeon. I think you need to stop skipping school
Brandon Gray
under capitalism a trust fund baby is greater than a worker? why do you love the elites so much, if you meet them you will know they are lucky instead of being of phenomenal levels of intelligence/skills
Ayden Howard
if the israeli poster from appears please go here for my reply to the labour credits question
Jordan Peterson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society. Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies: >Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/gommies.gom/starve/
Da sdages of gommunism. >Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Zachary Hall
The ghost of URSS is still alive and kicking mate, not only in this thread.
Liam Lee
Yo da most important thin` you can do fo' da whitey race iz keep yo' own life in order. Start wif yo'self. You mus' be competent, reliable, hardworking, an', above all, happy. Do niggas in yo' life trust an' respect you? What do yo' family think o' you? is you capable o' raising chil'ns? Racial politics don' gots ta be da only factor o' yo' life. an' if you can't achieve such things fo' yo' self, then da chances is very high dat you be not ready ta be uh political activist, either online or in real life. cuz how can you make uh difference fo' da race, fo' da lives o' many, if you can't even make anythin` o' yo' own, individual life?
Always remember: we's live in first world countries an' gots opportunity dat most niggas born on dis here planet do not. Things aren't as pimp-tight fo' us as dey wuz fo' our parents. But billions o' niggas in da third world would still kill ta gots da opportunities dat you do right now. So take care o' yo'self! werk yo' ass off, everyday, ta build uh pimp-tight life fo' you, an' fo' yo' family. Clear yo' mind o' self destructive thoughts, an' keep yo'self focused on realistic goals. werk hard, but also do fun an' wholesome things wif real niggas in real life. dat iz very important. nuttin' on da internet should ever take away from yo' real life you know das right!
Isaiah Parker
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Michael Barnes
Day of the rake delayed by 1 more day.
Gavin Jenkins
what does the pic in say? I don't know Russian,
Juan Johnson
>appeal to nature logical fallacy
Juan Turner
Hello gomrades! :DDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies
Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim gib gib gib! DDDD To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. httpswww.gommies.gomfug httpswww.gommies.gomstarve
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here httpswww.gommies.gomohfugme
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
>ableist this is why the left will never be able to meme
Juan Mitchell
>wow look its another mom and dad never loved me thread and i don't know surrogate psychology
Asher Thompson
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Grayson Barnes
It means "This thread has been visited by the ghost of USSR" "Great fortune and luck will be brought to those, who say "Thank you, resident of some obscure russian town"
Owen King
laugh at whoever post this picture either a trust fund baby who does not acknowledge the suffering of the masses >REEDUCATION CAMP or some dude who is wagecucking the precious hours of the one shot at existence they get >class traitor
stop being such a good wagie and fucking take back the future. so at least future generations will enjoy living as robot slave masters.
Leo Myers
lol your pic describes late stage capitalism perfectly
enjoy having your tax dollars fund another war for Isreal's sake
Connor Moore
Got that right, most of Sup Forums is composed of NEETs and poorfags. Yet they still shill for cucktalism
James Jones
Commies get shot on sight here. Eat hot lead. Not being edgy. This rural and suburban retard has taken enough shit and we are all getting fucking fed up. You're going to all be shot and nothing of value is going to be lost because commies are cretins. Parasites. Scum. Lower than the bacteria on a pile of shit.
You're pestering a bear with a stick, thinking your stick will save you and overpower the bear. This country has more guns in it than people. And guess who has them all?
Leo Reed
c пpaздникoм, выкцынцы!
Jordan Lee
based trips of truth
Jace Murphy
We dont all want or need a nanny state to wipe our arse.just because you are too stupid or lazy to compete in a free market does not give you the right to steal my labor or interfere with voluntary transactions between two consenting people
Dominic Sullivan
The thing with commies is that they are jealous of others and their success because they themselves cannot compete and are scared of competition. I may be poor as shit, but I'm not jealous of people who are better off and I sure as fuck don't throw a tantrum like a child when I don't get my way.
Commies are betas by nature because they're frightened to compete with people who are better due to the fact that they are unwilling to change and improve themselves.
Levi Sanders
c пpaздникoм, выкcyнцы!
Lincoln Smith
>egalitarism
The maxim of communism is : "From each according to their ability. To each according to their need"
Aaron Diaz
>rights fucking lmao > I may be poor as shit, but I'm not jealous of people who are better off and I sure as fuck don't throw a tantrum like a child when I don't get my way. that makes you a little bitch. have you never hung out with rich people they are the biggest most-entitled crybabbies ever. the fact these stupid shit control the Earth pisses me off and if it doesn't piss you off you are an obstacle to the working class and either need to reform or GTFO.
Daniel Perry
Hello gomrades! :DDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie goundry, and no goods are Broduced and beeple starve. :DDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist sociedy dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug worging glass beeple. :DDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When gabidalisds run away we win and I gill you all. :DDDDD Evendually the functions of sdade cease and sdade becomes murderous and indisdinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. :DDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to next goundry :DDDDDDD
Levi Rivera
You are a common thief. actually worse than a thief because you dont even have the balls to steal what other people have worked for but instead want the state to do it for you.sad
you criticise one form of thievery but praise another.
Owen Phillips
No, YOU need to either adapt or fucking die, cretin.
DAILY REMINDER THAT YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THE SUCCESS OF OTHERS.
HOURLY REMINDER THAT COMMUNISM HAS LITERALLY KILLED OVER 100,000,000 PEOPLE.
DAILY REMINDER THAT COMMUNISM MAKES YOU EQUALLY WORTHLESS.
HOURLY REMINDER THAT COMMUNISM'S CATCH PHRASE IS "JUST ONE MORE MURDER CLOSER TO UTOPIA".
Fuck off, eat some shit, and then die. I desperately look forward to the day where I get to personally paint some roses red with communist blood.
Leo Jenkins
WTF is success? being born with a silver spoon in your mouth?
Adrian Gonzalez
>adapt or die >HOURLY REMINDER THAT COMMUNISM HAS LITERALLY KILLED OVER 100,000,000 PEOPLE. lol do you care about human lives or not?
Leo Harris
>be me >be gorbafag >don´t arrest yeltsin and his fuccbois, because i dont want any economical problems or civil wars within the nation >let the soviet union dissolve while 70% of her entire population want to keep the union >life expectancy drops lower than it was in the second world war >1/10 children are living on the streets >a civil war breaks out in uzbekistan >people are literally migrating to other countries, so that they wont starve under russian capitalism >1996, the elections are manipulated to stop the original communist party from winning because of its popularity >mfw
Jayden Garcia
>Using the word 'ableist' unironically
Holy shit commiecucks are legit insane
Josiah Moore
Making a living, you fucking beta retard.
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Jonathan Harris
No one likes the treacherous Gorbafag
John Gutierrez
>commie level success
Julian Martinez
>capitalism level of success
Oliver Rodriguez
Lol do you? Oh no wait
Your death toll is still higher than mine by 100,000,000+ to 0.
Aaron Murphy
Is lefty/pol/ still full of tranny abominations sodomites and underage shitskins? Thinking of going back to troll there
Isaac White
There's so much comedy in that pic. Blaming capitalists for disease and shit lmfao. >mfw dying is now a capitalist invention
Ayden Smith
have you like uh...ever heard of something called monopolies?
also a man from the ghetto obviously has the same possibilyties as a millionare.
Jaxon Turner
you could blame capitalism for not handing out free medicine to the masses. as it said, "preventable diseases"
Jayden Watson
You niggers blame ocmmunists for disease and famine.
The capitalists did exactly the same thing in Africa, Asia, South America. They intentionally starved people by the hundreds of millions while selling the produce for profits overseas.
Gabriel Jones
Poor niggers getting oppressed by the White male capitalist cispatriarchy n shit
Isaiah Bennett
Yeah, and we had laws to treat corporations and their monopolies a certain way, but liberals insisted they be treated lawfully as citizens and given special rights. Weird. Its almost like that sort of thing benefits them.. Like they have a share or something, maybe even own these companies, while duping you to believe their bullshit so they can get you to give them more shekels for lobbyists. So, you can thank your leftist leaders for the shit these companies do to you. Complain and they'll tell you to stop kvetching, goy.
Henry Young
Killed by cars Cars made by capitalists xxxbillion Killed by faulty toasters Killed by angry cats Cats angry at capitalism >You be trippin foooool!
Logan Nguyen
so you agree with me on capitalism not giving everyone the same opportunities. whats your point then?
Michael Sullivan
U scum bitch and moan about degenerate liberals (and the SJW-kin) as if these people are simply not peak capitalism.
Angel Foster
Niggers don't have the intellectual capacity to take advantage of the wealth created by the market. Racial equality is a spook
Isaac Turner
This is now a McDonald's roll thread. What are you having?
Hudson Barnes
You are so smug because you are always attacking strawman communisrs, while defending capitalism which itself is the degeneracy you seek to destroy.
No wonder you worthless bolshevik apes lost the meme war.
Ian Rivera
Then why did Whites literally Pogrom and burn and destroy Black middle class neighborhoods throughout the 19th and 20th century? Maybe it was because blacks could do capitalism and whitey didnt want competition.
Eli Reyes
Stop pushing the Tulsa race riot myth. Just because some jewish sociology professor told you about it doesn't mean it's true
Lincoln Edwards
God you nigger.
These plebs die for their degenerate liberal masters for FRANCE or for GERMANY. They fight so their national bourgeoisie can have secret orgies where men dress up like women and later extol the virtues of morality in public speeches.
Abolish all borders, hunt all degenerates down, purge them with fire and blood.
Austin Torres
now i kinda want to ask you how many black guys you know personally, but i somehow see it coming that you will call me a cuck or something like that
Nathaniel Ortiz
Typical liberal patsy, ignores and refuses to see truth.
The reconstruction was tremendously succesful for blacks, who graduated university, started businesses, entered public service, and generated wealth ... until illegal gangs of brokeback rednecks murdered them all in cold blood.
Wyatt Hall
> Calls race a spook > Calls people grouped by skin color shit > Ignores that IQ is a useless spook > Ignores that based Stirner would give no fucks about your arbitrary bullshit
Aaron Hill
The nation is about kinship and cultural bonds not the ruling elite. It's about a national community I wouldn't expect a vile internationalist kike to understand
Whatever go back to lefty"masculinity is identity politics"Sup Forums
Grayson Jones
> Ignores that IQ is a useless spook
*tips fedora*
Why do commiecuck shitskins hate science so much? They are supposed to be rational and scientific or some shit
Thomas Hernandez
The nation is a lie. You were ruled by and for the profit of brutal tribal warlords, then by brutal tribal lords, then by brutal selfish aristocrats, then by brutal violent elite, and so on.
Your culture and kinship is no different than the camaraderie of victims traumatized endless rape, torture, and violence.
You are A HOUSE nigger: living and fighting for mastah.
Robert Roberts
Because White IQ was worse than niggers today a hundred years ago.
White IQ rose because of government policies and education.
Black IQ could similarly rise, but insecure whiteys dont want the competition for jobs and power so violently harass blacks, ban blacks from education, and generally chimp out like the autistic reeeee they are.
>B-B-BUT COMMUNISM WORKS! Aye, that's why countries of former eastern block are (and will be for decades) catching up to the west in terms of economy. If you're a commie - do everyone else a favor and just kill yourself.
Wyatt Hughes
How is a system that encourages neediness and discourages ability a good idea?
Jack Anderson
The highest R value is .58... Are you trying to prove my point?
> calling out someone for fallacious bullshit means you are a communist.
Stirner would have a fucking field day with you, and your 5th grade logic
Dylan Cruz
answer the question do you care about human lives or not?
Lincoln Ross
>Introducing the new revolutionary idea called "starting your own business!" lol you know nothing of the real word if you think this a solution to the crises of capitalism.
private property allows for corruption which allows for monopolies
Michael Sullivan
>If i can't make piles of cash off my abilities I will not share them with my fellow man
Fascist love of their fellow nation in a nutshell
Ayden Cruz
lol, How come China has caught up but Poland hasn't start blaming your shitty catholic culture and not the communist regime that actually tried to drag you stupid ass from out of poverty
Asher Jenkins
The most damning critique of Marxism thus far has come from V. K. Dmitriev (1898) and Ladislaus von Bortkiewicz (1906): >Marx's value theory and law of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall are internally inconsistent. In other words, Marx drew conclusions that actually do not follow from his theoretical premises. Once those errors are corrected, Marx's conclusion that aggregate price and profit are determined by, and equal to, aggregate value and surplus value no longer holds true. This result calls into question his theory that the exploitation of workers is the sole source of profit. >Andrew Kliman argues that, since internally inconsistent theories cannot possibly be right, this undermines Marx's critique of political economy and current-day research based upon it, as well as the correction of Marx's alleged inconsistencies.
Basically Marx tried to argue in "Manifesto" and "Kapital" that 2+2=7 (7 being the uptopia where a) workers were no longer exploited and b) profits would grow), however when you correct his mathematical mistakes to where 2+2=4 then not only would workers be exploited MORE, but it would be the ONLY source of profit since things like speculation, stock market, investment, capital gains, etc. (which exist in Capitalism) would no longer exist as a means of profit in a communist economic model. It literally would and always has exploited the worker more than Capitalism ever has. The mechanisms of Capitalism have corrected the exploitation of workers far more smoothly than any communist country ever has. >Don't believe me? Read Sedlácek's breakdown of Marxism and it's role in improving Capitalism rather than hurting it.
Communism never works.
Hunter Gutierrez
Hahahahah. What a brainlet. I doubt you will sing the same song when I steal all your stuff.
Mason Ross
David Thorstad >Influential Socialist Party Member, pro-pederast, pro-pedophile activist >FOUNDER and member of North American Man/Boy Love Association (which advocates for raping little boys) >Active member of the UWS Socialist Wokers Party >Active Trotskyist communist >Wrote for "The Militant" but left when the paper refused to put a Marxist spin on the gay liberation movement
>Thorstad claims that pedophilia is the MAIN way in which homosexuality has been expressed in modern culture
Jaxon Wilson
Really you are gonna blame hurricanes and other natural disasters to capitalism are you a moron... Oh wait ur a communist so that explains ur mental retardation.
Colton Lewis
When did you realize that socialism/communism was just an evil fraud created for by satanic pedophiles, sodomites, and degenerate fucking jews?
>The year was 1904, and the participants were destined to become the intellectual and political leaders of the British Empire. >Chief of this ring of homosexual revolutionaries was John Maynard Keynes, who eventually became the economic architect of English socialism and gravedigger for the British Empire. The chief American Fabians, acting as carriers of the Keynesian sickness, were Felix (((Frankfurter))) and Walter (((Lippmann))). Covertly, they mobilized their Leftist comrades to spread this pollution in America also.
>Keynes was characterized by his male sweetheart, (((LyttonStrachey))), as “A liberal and a sodomite, an atheist and a statistician.” His particular depravity was the sexual abuse of little boys. In communications to his homosexual friends, Keynes advised that they go to Tunis, “where bed and boy were also not expensive.” As a sodomistic pedophiliac, he ranged throughout the Mediterranean area in search of boys for himself and his fellow socialists. Taking full advantage of the bitter poverty and abysmal ignorance in North Africa, the Middle East, and Italy, he purchased the bodies of children prostituted for English shillings[See Lytton Strachey, A Critical Biography, Michael Holyroyd, Holt, Rinehart and Winston, two volumes].
Nathan Torres
>During the existence of the Russian SFSR (1918–1991) and the Soviet Union (1922–1991), the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) attempted to ideologically and politically control the writing of both academic and popular history. These attempts were most successful in 1934–52 period. According to Mehnert, the Soviets attempt to control academic historiography (the writing of history by academic historians) to promote ideological and ethno-racial imperialism by Russians. During the 1928–56 period, modern and contemporary history was generally composed according to the wishes of the CPSU, not the requirements of accepted historiographic method. According to some authors, such as Mehnert, this practice was fundamentally corrupt.
>Control over party history and the legal status of individual ex-party members played a large role in dictating the ideological diversity and thus the faction in power within the CPSU. The history of the Communist Party was revised to delete references to leaders purged from the party, especially during the rule of Joseph Stalin (1922–53).
>In the Historiography of the Cold War, a controversy over negationist historical revisionism exists, where numerous revisionist scholars in the West have been accused of whitewashing the crimes of Stalinism, overlooking the Katyn massacre in Poland and disregarding the validity of the Venona messages with regards to Soviet espionage in the United States.
Cameron Cook
Because China ditched communism earlier than Pooland and started to rent out their worker class slaves to capitalists. No sane nation would willingly turn their country into polluted sweatshop in exchange for muh GDP, hence why poolaks prefer to clean toilets instead.
Kayden Scott
>One of the most tragic events of the 20th century involved the mass execution of displaced and deported Polish POWs under Soviet authority [The Katyn Massacre]. >On April 13, 1943 it was discovered in the Katyn Forest, in the Smolensk region, mass graves containing the bodies of more than 15,000 Polish citizens who had been shot down and buried by their Soviet captors.
>An International Commission consisting of medical specialists from 12 different countries and the Polish Red Cross conducted an on-the-spot investigation. The members of the commission had complete freedom of movement and concluded unanimously that it did, in fact, occur. Engineers, lawyers, and specialists in various areas, all fell victim to the attempted genocide of the Polish people.
Joseph Collins
please explain your statement. >anti-semitic capitalist wew lad
Michael Bailey
>An attempt by Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot to form a Communist peasant farming society resulted in the deaths of 25 percent of the country's population from starvation, overwork and executions. >Pol Pot was born into a farming family in central Cambodia, which was then part of French Indochina. At age 20, he traveled to Paris on a scholarship to study radio electronics but became absorbed in Marxism and neglected his studies. >He lost his scholarship, dropped out of college, then returned to Cambodia in 1953. >By 1962, Pol Pot had become leader of the Cambodian Communist Party and was forced to flee into the jungle to escape the wrath of Prince Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia.
He even tried to take credit for our victories as his own... >In 1970, Prince Sihanouk was ousted, NOT by Pol Pot, BUT DUE TO A U.S.-BACKED RIGHT-WING MILITARY COUP. >historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/pol-pot.htm
>Once in power, Pol Pot began a radical experiment to create an agrarian utopia inspired in part by Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution which he had witnessed first-hand during a visit to Communist China. If you forgot how great Mao Zedong's amazing Agrarian Utopia was, you can read all about it here: >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting it to come out different"
Juan Wilson
>I don't have a response so I'm just going to pretend that all humans will work for free while only taking what they need
Eli Long
Then there's the Holodomor....
>Collectivisation also contributed to famine in 1932. Collectivization in the Soviet Union, including the Ukrainian SSR, was not popular among the peasantry and forced collectivisation led to numerous peasant revolts. The first five-year plan changed the output expected from Ukrainian farms, from the familiar crop of grain to unfamiliar crops like sugar beets and cotton. In addition, the situation was exacerbated by poor administration of the plan and the lack of relevant general management. Significant amounts of grain remained unharvested, and – even when harvested – a significant percentage was lost during processing, transportation, or storage.[citation needed]
>However, the Soviet leadership used the man-made famine to attack Ukrainian nationalism, and thus the man-made famine falls under the legal definition of genocide.[56][57][54][58][28][59] For example, special and particularly lethal policies were adopted in and largely limited to Soviet Ukraine at the end of 1932 and 1933. According to Snyder: "[E]ach of them may seem like an anodyne administrative measure, and each of them was certainly presented as such at the time, and yet each had to kill."[60][61] >Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine[13] and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.[14]
>7.5 to 12 million ethnic Ukrainians perished as a result. >scholars say the famine was planned by Joseph Stalin to eliminate a Ukrainian independence movement, arguing that actions such as rejection of outside aid, confiscation of all household foodstuffs, and restriction of population movement confer intent, defining the famine as genocide; the loss of life has been compared to that of the Holocaust.
Aaron Powell
che was a faggot and a loser...
>Che’s famous motorcycle tour of South American is mostly myth. The motorcycle broke down early in the trek and it was completed with other means of transportation. >Che was nicknamed Chancho (Pig) by his schoolmates because he rarely bathed. >Che executed thousands of men, women and children deemed enemies. He put a bullet in the head of a fellow guerrilla he suspected of disloyalty. >Che was not a fan of our First Amendment. He opposed freedom of speech, religion, press, assembly and protest. >Homosexuals did not fare well in Che’s Cuba. He had them all jailed, some executed. >Che never won a Nobel Prize for Economics with good reason. Castro put him in charge of the Cuban economy, but his strident communism immediately put it on a downward economic death spiral. >Che fled Cuba in the mid-1960s not to spread Communism throughout the hemisphere, but because he had so totally screwed up his private life. He was a profligate adulterer who deserted two wives, countless mistresses and numerous children. >Members of the Che cult claim his last words were, “I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.” However, General Ovando, Chief of the Bolivian Armed Forces, reported that Che died in battle and that his last words were considerably less noble, “I am Che Guevara and I have failed.”****** >Another version of his final words is even more pathetic. Far from bravely facing a martyr’s death, Che’s captors reported that he begged for his life saying, “Do not shoot! I am Che Guevara and worth more to you alive than dead.”
Benjamin Harris
mao was a giant faggot as well
>As local officials in the countryside competed to over-report the levels of production that their communes had achieved in response to the new economic organisation, local peasants were left with a vastly decreased surplus in order to meet their quotas, and then no surplus at all. When they eventually failed to produce enough crops even to meet the quotas to feed the cities, peasant farmers were unfairly accused of hoarding, profiteering, and other counter-revolutionary activities by Chinese Communist Party officials, who cited the massively inflated production estimates of the local party leaders as evidence.
>As the famine worsened, these accusations prompted widespread atrocities (including massive grain confiscations, leaving millions of peasants to starve) by Maoist party officials, who sought to direct blame away from the harmful changes in agriculture policy and the massive overestimation of grain yields. At the time, the famine was almost exclusively blamed on a conspiracy by "enemies of the people" and "unreformed kulak elements" among the peasant farmers, who starved at a rate nearly three times that of the urban Chinese population.
>Local party leaders, for their part, conspired to cover up shortfalls and reassign blame in order to protect their own lives and positions. In one famous example, Mao Zedong was scheduled to tour a local agricultural commune in Shaanxi province during the heart of the famine in order to assess the conditions for himself; in preparation for his visit, local party officials ordered hundreds of starving peasants to carefully uproot and transplant hundreds of thousands of grain stalks by hand from nearby farms into one "model field", which was then shown to Mao as proof that the crops had not failed.
>In a similar manner to the massive Soviet famine of 1933, due to internal factors and the golden blockade (the Holodomor), doctors were prohibited from listing "starvation" as a cause of death on death certificates. This kind of deception was far from uncommon; a famous propaganda picture from the famine shows Chinese children from Shandong province ostensibly standing atop a field of wheat, so densely grown that it could apparently support their weight. In reality, they were standing on a bench concealed beneath the plants, and the "field" was again entirely composed of individually transplanted stalks.
The guy literally forced his own people into cannibalism because there was no food... >Starvation was the punishment of first resort. As report after report shows, food was distributed by the spoonful according to merit and used to force people to obey the party. Once inspector in Sichuan wrote "commune members too sick to work are deprived of food. It hastens their death." As the moral fabric of society unraveled, party members abused and stole from one another and even resorted to cannibalism. Police Report, Feb. 25, 1960: "Name of culprit: Yang Zhongsheng. Name of victim: Yang Eshun. Relationship with culprit: younger brother. Manner of crime: killed and eaten. Reason: livelihood issues." >Mao was sent many reports about what was happening, he knew about the horror, but pushed for even greater extractions of food. At a secret meeting in Shangai on March 25, 1959 he ordered the party to procure one-third of all available grain, more than ever before. The minutes of the meeting quote as such "When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill." >archive.is/bgoZG
Gavin Fisher
>China cought up >China is lower than Poland when it comes to gdp per capita, hdi and some other statistics >Looking at China through the prism of Beijing and Hong Kong while the rest is still 50 years behind MUH SIDES. Also: Poland was dragged so hard from poverty it was broke by 1989. Like, almost zimbabwe-level of broke. Commies realized they can't manage this wreck of a country anymore, so they left it for someone else to fix this mess. kys.
Jeremiah Allen
> started to rent out their worker class slaves to capitalists. this describes modern third world economies such as poland that depend on emigrant labor and EU gibs to support the home country.
This is unique to capitalism
How come Slovenia """""""""recovered""""""""" from communism faster than Poland?
Juan Jenkins
>With the passing of communism into history as an ideological alternative to democracy it is time to do some accounting of its human costs. >Few would deny any longer that communism--Marxism-Leninism and its variants--meant in practice bloody terrorism, deadly purges, lethal gulags and forced labor, fatal deportations, man-made famines, extrajudicial executions and show trials, and genocide. It is also widely known that as a result millions of innocent people have been murdered in cold blood. Yet there has been virtually no concentrated statistical work on what this total might be. >For about eight years I have been sifting through thousands of sources trying to determine the extent of democide (genocide and mass murder) in this century. As a result of that effort** I am able to give some conservative figures on what is an unrivaled communist hecatomb, and to compare this to overall world totals. >First, however, I should clarify the term democide. It means for governments what murder means for an individual under municipal law. It is the premeditated killing of a person in cold blood, or causing the death of a person through reckless and wanton disregard for their life. Thus, a government incarcerating people in a prison under such deadly conditions that they die in a few years is murder by the state--democide--as would parents letting a child die from malnutrition and exposure be murder. So would government forced labor that kills a person within months or a couple of years be murder.
>[Continued] >So would government created famines that then are ignored or knowingly aggravated by government action be murder of those who starve to death. And obviously, extrajudicial executions, death by torture, government massacres, and all genocidal killing be murder. However, judicial executions for crimes that internationally would be considered capital offenses, such as for murder or treason (as long as it is clear that these are not fabricated for the purpose of executing the accused, as in communist show trials), are not democide. Nor is democide the killing of enemy soldiers in combat or of armed rebels, nor of noncombatants as a result of military action against military targets. >With this understanding of democide, Table 1 lists all communist governments that have committed any form of democide and gives their estimated total domestic and foreign democide and its annual rate (the percent of a government's domestic population murdered per year). It also shows the total for communist guerrillas (including quasi-governments, as of the Mao soviets in China prior to the communist victory in 1949) and the world total for all governments and guerillas (including such quasi-governments as of the White Armies during the Russian civil war in 1917-1922). Figure 1 graphs the communist megamurderers and compares this to the communist and world totals.
>[continued] >With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia. >Obviously the population that is available to kill will make a big difference in the total democide, and thus the annual percentage rate of democide is revealing. By far, the most deadly of all communist countries and, indeed, in this century by far, has been Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot and his crew likely killed some 2,000,000 Cambodians from April 1975 through December 1978 out of a population of around 7,000,000. This is an annual rate of over 8 percent of the population murdered, or odds of an average Cambodian surviving Pol Pot's rule of slightly over just over 2 to 1. >In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone--one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it
