We need to begin a new organization to rival that of ANTIFA with the premise of self defense. I believe Nordfront is a decent example, with their police riot shield tactics. We can easily push forward over an ANTIFA crowd just by using Roman Tactics. People also associate police shields with authority subconsciously as such, we will be almost seen as police to people viewing any media. Police do not own a monopoly on these tactics and in fact they have no good way to counter shields besides using their police cars which often results in their own injuries. These riot shields will be the next evolution in protest!
However, we need to also think about re-branding ANTICOM. ANTICOM only represents a fight against ANTIFA, this organization needs to be independent of any ties to ANTIFA in order for complete dominance in the media as they refuse to cover ANTICOM because it directly links to ANTIFA.
Suggested names from myself: Washington Legion (America Only) [Name of Country] First New Republic Werewolf (If this organization becomes a little more national socialist in nature) There are countless others, but lets not focus on my own shitty names.
I really like the New Republic because it gives off a nice democratic vibe that people can get behind. Sorta like how normies go out and say that they aren't anti-fascist.
Daniel Perry
>the basement brownshirts try medieval LARPing yeah this'll go over well
I've actually thought about something like this a while ago. A group called Dragon Shield, shitty name I know, who basically show up at these rallies that ANTIFA do. They would be calm, polite, and kind. Not attacking them unless one of their own was attacked. They would also all require basic medical training to help both sides with injured people if things go violent. They would be armed with large shields, and trained in hand-to-hand combat, avoiding weapons unless necessary.
Ethan Perez
Drop the LARPing and "muh optics, muh normeez" shit and just fight Antifa. You don't need some special group to do that.
Kevin Cox
Well... One of the things I'd like to avoid is that specialized training aspect. It wouldn't take much time for people to learn these ancient tactics if they are the ones with the shields. Any organization would need to be very flexible with members being backups because police tend to try and pick out the leaders in the group. We can't focus on a VIP being lost to the police otherwise we'll lose our organization and the police will be able to overtake us.
Zachary Collins
Because that hasn't gone terribly and now Antifa is now planning a massive "Civil War" more like an insurrection. This is because no group competes with them and no one can oppose them successfully using their tactics against them.
Kayden Ramirez
The Dickfores
Ethan Smith
Oooga Booga I can smell your low IQ score, back to Africa!
Henry Young
Identity Europa.
Robert Bell
You need to work with the NWF, just don't be the NWF.
Jaxon Martinez
Doesn't really work in the United States though. If we do that then I think we'd be made fun of. However, maybe we can do something close.
Robert Sanders
P A N T E R I
Nolan Murphy
No, the group identity Europa. The largest identitarian group in the united states. It does work in the united states.
Jace Parker
IE is pretty gay. Outside of Nathen Damigo (who left for some reason) I've never seen any IE members do actual street fighting. Damigo also kicked a guy out once for beating up an Antifa at a conference.
Lucas Gomez
Who's faggot?
Gabriel Barnes
Larping and much protests. Better to have no name and organisation. Find a vantage point and plan multiple escape routes. Booby trap everything. Until we nut up and become a real resistance movement no one is gonna care how you larp at your protests. It literally doesn't matter.
Ryan Moore
It's the only group with a solid image. Primarily young (mid 20s) college educated. Plenty of real world activism. They've been flyering college campuses and dropping banners in every state.
Anthony Collins
Yeah, they definitely don't want to have conflict with ANTIFA. I have no idea what exactly their objective is in the United States and if there is an American branch, they sure haven't revealed themselves very well.
Samuel Walker
>So, the biggest weakness the left has is that it is laughably out of touch with the common American >Let's make a neo-Nazi roleplay group How about we just... you know... show up in generally what we wear and oppose them near where we live?
Aiden Mitchell
it's individual organizations, no nation wide bullshit organization in your own hometowns
I can't find the vid but RWDS made a new recruitment vid after jewtube took down there old one
Alexander Gonzalez
What? The people in Charlottesville like 3 days ago were almost 100% from Identity Europa.
Jack Walker
Just so we are clear non whites are not allowed right even if they oppose ANTIFA? I mean this is Sup Forums we don't have to hide our hate for other races like /r/thedonald...
Colton Baker
So your idea to combat them is to shoot them? Great until they literally hunt us down as terrorists and Trump is forced to make a huge campaign against the right.
The only thing similar we could do is some false flags, shooting at cops from the vantage of the protestors will make the public absolutely want a crackdown, that crackdown will be considered legal because of the anonymity of the group only representing the group's collective behavior.
Sebastian Fisher
No shit.
Zachary Fisher
Nice honey pot faggot. No one will ever trust a gathering now after you fags tried to include that cuck Spenser the first time.
Xavier Hernandez
no they fucking weren't
it was trad workers party, nat soc, and some neo confederate group I can't remember the name of and random trolls and Sup Forumslacks who were LARPing nazi
although IE was there it was not 100% not even close to 25%
Landon Wood
Revive the Silver Legion
Jonathan Jackson
Shit, it's our organization We can do what we want!
The only restriction is that we can't end up to the point where the police will infect hunt us down because of our collective group's actions.
Nolan Bailey
Posters and banners don't do anything though. What is their long term plan? Do they plan on running for office or implementing their policies in any meaningful way? They are pretty LARPy. Don't seem to do much besides put up posters.
Blake Howard
Identity evropa already exists
also fighting antifa is retarded
Jack Brooks
Werwolf
Robert Parker
I thought of that, the problem is that Silver Legion is not only dead, but the reason it did was because it was made illegal by police. It wouldn't be so hard for a lawyer to conjure up a claim that since that group was never officially taken off that police must stop them right away.
Thomas Russell
But it makes for good riot prrrn vids
also optics of fighting antifa are a net positive as conservative normie amurica hates them
Isaac Mitchell
No it wasn't. It was TWP, League of the South, NSM, Vanguard America, and a bunch of other groups. IE was small and stayed away from the front lines.
Caleb Martinez
>people going to jail for 10 years is great because it feeds me webms
fighting antifa is retarded and a waste of time and good men
Joseph Green
>fighting your enemy is bad What
Nathaniel Kelly
That is why we need to create something new and throw a barrel of support online when we officially reveal ourselves.This isn't some unite the right bullshit. People will flock to this organization because it sub consciously represents authority if we'd commit to riot shield tactics.
Blake Hill
They are European Identitarians. They want to raise the racial consciousness of European Americans by directly engaging with the population. They've held rallies, flash mobs, internal national gatherings with speakers from across the right, etc.
Michael Wright
Patriots something or other. We can chant >I fight for my wifes son's future!
Josiah Cox
antifa totally discredits themselves every time they show up somewhere. They're like a massive anti-left billboard
we don't need to fight them, let them do their thing
Xavier Lee
You don't have to fight, you simply have to defend and intimidate. The police will not quarrel with us until they learn how to deal with the other side having shields so long as we don't make ourselves a problem to them.
Gavin Adams
Who went to jail for 10yrs?
also what are you going to do when you go to a protest and they fuckers attack you?
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS.
Jacob Foster
Stop trying to build national movements ex nihilo and focus on your own part of the country.
Gabriel Rivera
>wat wuz 3 days ago
There was a torchlit flashmob in Charlottesville 3 days ago with Richard Spencer, Mike Enoch, and Identity Europa.
Identity Europa had like 200 people at Charlottesville back in August.
Jackson Robinson
Then we can all hold hands around the campfire and sing Kumbaya before retiring to our cucktents like good cuckscouts.
Logan Bailey
ANTICOM IS A HONEYPOT
Cooper Harris
I never said we couldn't openly promote our ideals, the difference is we can't be autistic with it. We have to be like the British Union of Fascists where we are very selective and only allow non-retards to talk to the press. We have to say "Certain Jews"the people will still find us appealing.
Aiden Taylor
Scouts honor!?
Kevin Hernandez
Right Wing United?
Christian Collins
Obviously you fight back. But the purpose of public assembly isn't confrontation with ANTIFA. It's to raise the racial consciousness of European Americans against internationalist elements of the media, government, and financial apparatus.
Alexander Flores
THIS
Autonmy of groups is key as is the abilty to deny any association when other groups fuck up and go rogue
Luis Butler
Anticom isn't a honey pot, but it is a shit organization. That pic is a completely accurate depiction of RWU though.
Dylan Lee
It's why we need to remove it
.My part of the country is irrelevant, these people around me don't get it. They believe if they keep electing the same republican that things will change. They don't believe that whiteness are under threat and they are accepting of people of color.
Ryan Sullivan
What does that mean though? Have they signed any policies into law? Have they held charity events for poor whites? Do they have any political power whatsoever? If not, then they are LARPers.
Carson Cooper
Then print this out and leave it everywhere.
Aaron Baker
Are there no loopholes? Like it didn't exist for decades. I don't know enough about the american legal system but there must be a way, or just stand your ground on free speech law. Wish I was American, one of the last countries where true free speech is allowed.
Just call them the Gold Legion or Platinum or whatever.
Isaiah Foster
Allow me to refresh your memory when people try to raise racial consciousness in a public forum:
Now that is dumb, we're not gonna just spotlight dumb fucks like Richard Spencer. This organization has mostly to consist of people who actually show understanding.
It is significantly dumb to allow your opponent to have all the air time. Did the 2016 election not prove that with the media covering Trump? How do you not understand that having an actually capable organization against it is a positive thing? Trump used the power of negative media to grow support, that is how we can use the media as a weapon too.
Henry Williams
Wrong the police will FUCK UP anybody they are told to
Cantwell is not going to get out of his situation. They will burn him at the legal stake. He was an amazing voice and an incredible orator who was thrown in the trash for some "action" you faggots so desperately want
Jonathan Ramirez
Here, have a cool vidya. It triggers the Antifa. Scouts honor!
Daniel Clark
Okay so your standard is a fully operational political party. Nothing is going to meet your standard. Identity Europa is the *least LARPY group*.
What does it mean? It means that every person who comes into contact with our ideas is exposed to a new worldview and a new way of thinking. It means that large numbers of young white people are banding together, nation wide, and pursuing their racial interest. It means that they are rebelling against international capitalism, multiculturalism, and every policy that is currently selling this country and it's people to a group of financial parasites who care more about generating individual profit at the expense of the average american worker than helping their nation thrive.
What does this mean? It means it's a start dude.
Jeremiah Hall
Germany's NSDAP had similar origins. We can't fly until we run, and we can't run until we walk. We can't go from baby steps to a fully fledged political group without taking the baby steps first.
Then it's ripe for pro-white messaging and you don't have to worry about immanent threats like rampaging communists.
Oliver Watson
That is possible, however, it wouldn't take long for associations with the Silver Legion to be made and thus we could be under the same police actions as the original. We'd have to lawyer up and really stress our differences.
Bentley Jackson
>literal identity politics
Yeah because that works so well
Blake Martinez
They are so irrelevant, but also really give off the terrorist vibe and not a authoritarian police vibe.
Carter Morris
Yeah. It's basically the only thing that works.
James Rodriguez
It does.
Let me guess you seriously think trumps tax plan got him elected?
Noah Murphy
The key is to get better lawyers and not say stupid shit to Vice news, he may as well have been talking to Buzzfeed. also I doubt he will get in too much legal trouble for having done nothing considering that spook who attacked everyone is getting felony charges. Self defense is self defense
Zachary Bennett
Rampaging communists are the only thing they fear, they don't care about white identity. They would only rally around a group for the status of protection, thus we subconsciously look and act like a police force and we'll become one in their eyes.
Hudson Bell
I can smell the new name you settle on also not picking up
Jacob Bailey
Yes, the strategy would be to basicaly take over the jobs of the police (meaning beating up commies) and stand as a kind of pseudo-police force. Normies will love this because finally somebody is going to do something against Antifa, and the police will also love this because they A) don't need to work as hard and B) don't risk bad press.
Only weak chain in this is the potentially cucked mayors who will let Antifa do their thing and beat up the Anti-Antifa (for lack of a better word)
In short: Create a well regulated and disciplined army of thugs that only beat up Antifa that attack them and nobody else, and good charmers in the upper echelons to speak to the public. Fascist coup 101
I think the biggest problem is that actually nobody remembers them except for history buffs, old people who lived through WW2 and actual fascists. Not really the best base to build upon, a completely new organization might be necessary and then when the time is right, rebrand it as the reborn Silver Legion
Austin Jenkins
Exactly. You have no reason to message about communists because you people are already aware. You would be preaching to the choir. You need to wake them up about race.
Jayden Green
*your people
Eli Morales
This, but it should be more subtle. we need to go full analog propaganda mode. This is how we redpill the normies.
no the key is to not get into violent altercations with irrelevant crust punks
who the fuck do you think you are sitting behind a keyboard telling people to "hire better lawyer" to defend themselves when they assault people in avoidable situations?
Camden Lopez
Subconciously make them see that Jews control every piece of media. i mean it's been a joke for decades, it's not hard to expand on that. Once we have Jews being seen as despisable everything will be easy.
Problem is to show them how it actually affects them in a bad way to be governed by Jews. Just being governed by them is not enough for Normies.
Andrew Hernandez
The well trained part shouldn't be focused because Anticom tried that. What matters is that we actually plan and we can teach as we go. Give people wooden shields as backup and they can learn by observing the riot shield people.
You'd have to become well viewed in order to express a very controversial thought and actually have any success communicating with them
I'm open to hearing their message, but their propaganda looks straight ripped off from movies about the IRA and US troops in Afghanistan so it looks pretty bad from the perspective of hardcore conservatives.
No you have to show the people you're protecting them for them to start rallying to our side.
Levi Bennett
Really it's about telling them that international financial institutions (whom everyone kinda sorta already hates) are exploiting Americans to make profit. They're importing thrid worlders to demographically displace Americans from their institutions and undercut our wages. After that you have European Americans consider themselves under threat from 1. third wortlders. and 2. internationalists. This will allow European Americans to view themselves as a single common entity within America and that common entity is basically under assault. The rest falls into place nicely.
Carson Clark
Bro all I see is excuses why you can't do anything locally and have to have other people in other parts of the country do what you say while you sit on your ass.
David Roberts
Once they break the guilt conditioning it shouldn't be hard for them to see who is behind the Anti-white narrative.
Leo Perry
Dicksucking faggots are better than the Air Conditioning Zionists. You could join Antifa unironically and be a better American.
Oliver Campbell
NWF is a pipedream. It's been tried in like the 90's. The only way is to live inside of Society. You know "ride the kali yuga" and all that shit.
Hunter Long
This is my attempt to do local shit.
You really want me to mail my neighbors about the JQ so we can alienate ourselves even more?
Jeremiah Hall
>protecting them
From who? Antifa only exists when the police stand down.
the battle of berkely happened because police were told to NOT intervene.
Cville happened for the same reason.
there are no street battles with antifa unless the government wants them to happen. We dont need an army to combat that. We just need to not put our people in situations where they have to defend themselves and then get sent to prison
Robert Wilson
NEW REPUBLIC
Kayden Reyes
I always thought that Querfront is the way to go to depose of the jewish banking system and when the time is right backstab the commies so they can't do a communist coup. We need more of these posters on every street.
Gavin Gonzalez
There's plenty you can do IRL anonymously. Put up banners or flyers for example. Heck, i'm sure there are dudes exactly how you feel right now in your own town "no one out here fucking cares about this shit, why even bother".
Throw up a signal flair for shits sake.
Brayden Gomez
Yes, somebody needs to ignite the spark so the silent majority will rise up. Only thing that stands between you (not you personally but the movement) and success is complacency, the moment we get to work will be the moment we win.
Matthew Gray
An organization like this would bring their attention around given the right circumstance. You have to build your reputation from plebstream media. That way they ask Trump about it.
Adam Smith
I don't care what you do. Do what works in your area. That's what I said first before you made this post.
