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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/starve/
gommies.gom/ohfugme/
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/:DDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
youtube.com/watch?v=OlB_xNOAn1c
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
mises.ca/the-suicide-of-communism-the-case-for-patience/
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It doesn't work

Don't work lad. It's been tried and it doesn't work.

Now fuck off, cunt

Fpbp, never worked, never benefited the people and killed tons of people.

How do you suppose to "vanquish" the capitalist class

>It doesn't work
it just doesn't work

Kill yourself, pinko.

kys

Doesn't work you cuck. But if you live long enough you may experience the great ai revolution where 95% of people end up without work and live of universal income to keep consumerism alive.

It's always either a shitskin in some 3rd world shithole under under a warlord or a kike that both supports communism.
I've learned the latter part in my University when we had violent rabid fucking animals that preached Marx and they all had the typical Stein, Berg, Shulz last names. We couldn't really do anything otherwise we get reported from anti-semtism but we just laughed at how blatant they were with their anti-western classical liberalism they were and how the naturally segregated themselves with the marxists.

youtu.be/afkN9H9aLow

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I prefer the old general image

Hello gomrades! :DDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie goundry, and no goods are Broduced and beeple starve. :DDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist sociedy dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug worging glass beeple. :DDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When gabidalisds run away we win and I gill you all. :DDDDD Evendually the functions of sdade cease and sdade becomes murderous and indisdinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.

gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/:DDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. :DDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to next goundry :DDDDDDD

I got into an argument with one of you last night.

It doesn't fucking work, fuck off.

It does tho

Keep the dialectic comrade.

youtube.com/watch?v=OlB_xNOAn1c

Jordan Peterson is a charlatan and living it up on patreon donations from sweaty 'red pilled' NEETs

What is this, "comrade"?

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Your paranoia.

Alright, let's go on ahead and completely ignore what he's saying.

If we do not use capitalism, how do we avoid sliding back down to pre-industrial living standards?

Commies are pushing an economic doctrine without understanding economics. Anyway, btc is mooning and Sup Forums coin is coming along nicely, everyone should buy some and we can make chan coin bets.

Did someone say once in a lifetime free helicopter rides?!

>never benefited the people

Are you serious? Communists doubled life expectancy in Russia, gives people free healthcare, free education, resettled them to towns and cities, gave them guarateed work and wage, build modern science and industry.

Ah gomrade you are doing good work. Thank you.

If you must post in this thread can you at least sage

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Why the censorship?

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It's easier to put on the facade of wealth when you systematically murder your own people. Less gibs to hand out.

Nothing's free.

Also, look up "malinvestment". It's the approximate reason why Soviet Russia eventually fell, and also why "guaranteed work" isn't a good argument for anything.
I could make a man dig up and fill a ditch for a guaranteed job.

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>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
This stifles technological progress and product variation (which is arguably a major factor in advancing technology). Along with getting rid of the profit-based incentive which discourages major advancements, as people do not have advancing purpose (aside from the good of society) to provide services, goods, etc.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
Not in regards to a public entity controlling economic production, "the people" producing goods to fulfill everyone's basic needs is still a form of a command economy. The people being the public entity.

See, I'd think this is a real general and not just disingenuous spam bait, but all of these, "communist generals" have the same exact context, and never a new edition. If this were a real general it would actually have relevant and recent information.

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>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
That is a mouthful. You assume that "capitalists" are in charge and the opposite of the poor, even though businesses range from small family owned businesses to multi-billion dollar corporations that have differing profit margins. It is possible to be a part of the working class whilst using capital to increase production (via a small business). I strongly doubt that "the working class" supports socialism, I assume that voting patterns in different countries from poor people are irrelevant? The working class in the US doesn't support your system, you assume trying to decide what is best for them

Get the fuck out

>without communism russians would have never industrialized
maybe you retards are just subhuman and dumb, the rest of us got by fine and well before you did. dumbass russians deserved to die en masse.

>systematically murder your own people

You mean executions of the criminals or what? Of course capitalism never did such awful things.

>I could make a man dig up and fill a ditch for a guaranteed job.

Soviet Union gave to people guaranteed work according with their speciality acquired with free education.

>Also, look up "malinvestment". It's the approximate reason why Soviet Russia eventually fell

Lol yes after Soviet Union falls most of the russian capitals was effecitive 'invested' in a pockets of new capitalist elites. What are miracle! Accidentally all other russian population started to extinct after that great redistribution of wealth.

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Communism may appeal ONLY to really poor or to retarded.

It's a trick like a lottery. Communist will tell you to buy their commie ticket for a chance to win "free" shit. But the cost for one ticket is EVERYTHING that you own.

Basically it's the most expensive lottery that ever existed. And this lottery does have winners. Around 1000 of cummunists leaders, that end up having an unlimited power and everythings is free for them.

So, communist is basically a Social Casino, where you can bet everything that you own, and try to win "free shit" for yourself.

Needless to say, House always wins and the gamblers lose.

Only in communism when gamblers(the vast majority of people) lose, they don't just go home. No.

They are made go to collective farms where they have to work for free. If they refuse, then they are send to prisons and concentration camps. Also they are made to work at factories in dirt-shit conditions and die before they turn 50.

Communism is not something anyone would wish for anyone... that is unless you are a piece of shit of human being, a sadist and a fucking asshole.

Fuck off commies scum

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Sage against communism

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I don't think you understood my last point at all so I'll help you out.
>mises.ca/the-suicide-of-communism-the-case-for-patience/

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Ruski commie go fuck yourself.. oh wait.. you already have your own head up your ass.. permanently. How ironic. Talking out of your ass about how it's nice to be like you.. LOL

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Russian elites lived very good during Feudalism and Capitalism times. They had wealth and respect why they must did bother about dirty peasants which lived in shit?

>the rest of us got by fine and well before you did

Because western countries started idustrialization and urbaniztion hundreds years before Russian elites which start to think about such things after we lost the Crimean War in the middle of XIX century.

After capitalist and feudal elites was purged during the Revolution, Russia started to move to the modern industry, science and agriculture much faster than before. As we can see today degenerated capitalist elites was the problem that slow down russian progress for centuries.

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

THAT'S WHAT WE LOST WITH DEATH OF STALIN:
1. STYROFOAM WAS MADE OF MILK.YOU COULD FEED CHILDREN WITH IT.
2. GRAVITATION WAS LESS THAN ON THE MOON BY 80 PERCENT. PEOPLE COULD JUMP RIGHT ON ANY ROOF.
3. PEOPLE WERE LIVING FOR 150-190 YEARS. DISEASES DID NOT EXIST EXCEPT WORKER'S CALLUS.
4. IF SOMEONE FALLS ON THE STREET - EVERYONE RUNS TO HIM, PUT MONEY IN HIS POCKETS, KISS HIM IN LIPS, OFFER TO DRINK AND BECOME RELATIVES.
5. RABBITS AND CHICKEN WERE JUMPING IN THE FRYING PAN THEMSELVES.
PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO GO FISHING - BURBOTS WERE JUMPING FROM THE WATER RIGHT INTO THE KETTLE
6. GRANDFATHER TOLD ME: PEOPLE WERE WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FROM LAUGHTER. IN THE MORNING PEOPLE USED TO POUR COLD WATER ON THEMSELVES
7. PREGNANCY PERIOD WAS ABOUT 4.5 MONTHS. CHILDREN WEIGHED 12-15 KILOGRAMS, HAVING WHITE HAIR, BIG BLUE EYES, AND INTELLIGENT FACES - IMMEDIATELY ASKED TO LET THEM GO TO WORK
8. WATER IN VOLGA WAS SWEET AS SYRUP, YENISEY WAS FULL OF DARK BEER
9. IN WINTER AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS ABOUT -300 *C, EVERYONE HAD RED CHEEKS
10. BERRIES WERE THE SIZE OF A CAT, CATS WERE THE SIZE OF THE DOG, DOGS - OF THE COW, COW - OF THE WORKSHOP, AND IN THE WORKSHOP MEN WERE PLAYING BY BOTWINNIK'S METHODIC - CHECKMATE IN ONE TURN!

Look who is talking. Is it dying baltic people? Is your capitalism killing your nations gently enough? Don't forget to blame communism every day when your population was increased.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>"From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

Sounds great to me. I have no fucking ability whatsoever but my needs are enormous. When may I collect my Bugatti and bespoke suits, comrade?

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We're going to win, weather you like it or not.

Economically unsustainable.
What mathematically cannot continue will not continue.

LOL ruski idiot doesn't understand that people are free to move anywhere they like, unlike russki slaves who are tied to their piece of shit dirty towns until they die from vodka and bad food.

once again go fuck yourself. everyone hates your little ruski-kike-shitfaced idiotic tiny head with no brains in it.

by the way i don't see lithuanian russians running back to your piece of shit wasteland filled with drunks and whores.