How did it go to the point when you get called an Anti-Semite and a Nazi in a debate or an argument when you say that Jews ruled the early USSR, that Jews started German Revolution, that Jews killed millions of white Christians during Holodomor which were all historically true facts...? Doesn't matter that normies first said do i have something to back up that claim, when you start to cite them the names like Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Luxemburg, Eisner, Uritsky, Levi, you can see their faces getting red and then they call you a nazi and break up the conversation, gosh that cant be true the school said that Jews did nothing wrong and that they were magically and systematically banned from dozens of countries because of Antisemitism... Note that these people are not lefties or commies they are typical libcucks and cuckservatives... How is it even possible to redpill normies?
How did it go to the point when you get called an Anti-Semite and a Nazi in a debate or an argument when you say that...
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People think any criticism of jews will lead to a holocaust.
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How do we redpill the normies without scaring them away tho?
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I certainly think some jews have done things wrong, but the holodomor was not about jews killing christians. It was about communists from russia (jews and christians) starving ukrainian peasants (jews and christians). I.e. it was not religious based.
With the truth
Citation evidence and no obvious emotion
It was race based not religious. Jews hated non jews
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> It was about communists from russia (jews and christians) starving ukrainian peasants (jews and christians).
more russians died during "holodomor" then ukrainians. Its ukies meme which they use like niggers use slavery because of their victim mentality
Commies kill 20 mln of russians, ukrainian is not even real ethnity.
We all should not to use term "holodomor" because its jewish invention for russians in ukraine to make them more denial their ancestry and to make them hate russians but not jews
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>It was race based not religious. Jews hated non jews
Then why were communist jews lead by a non-jew dictator? Are you sure it wasn't that communists (jew and non-jew) hated non-communists (jew and non-jew).
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What non Jew dictator?
Quite sure thank you.
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uhh, Stalin. And Lenin of course was more racially non-jew than jew (and didn't even realize that he was likely 1/4 jew)
Stalin and Lenin were full-on kikes.
>Quite sure thank you.
Then you should try looking at actual historical evidence rather than propaganda, as well as learning about the fundamentals tenants of communism (i.e. race doesn't matter)
Lenin was Russkey
>early communists
they weren't about race nor about nations
they were about working class - all together
>Stalin and Lenin were full-on kikes.
Sure they were...lol
Unlikely the news will (((inform))) you that communism is entirely murderous Jewish twisted ideology and a scam
Yes they were and so are (((you))). Eat crow.
one fucking century ago
Normies aren't sentient and will just spit out what the group consensus is.
>Unlikely the news will (((inform))) you that communism is entirely murderous Jewish twisted ideology and a scam
What's probably more important is that historians who study actual history will not either (though those historians surely would not deny that there were many important ethnic jews in the history of communism).
Lenin's father, Ilya Nikolayevich Ulyanov, was from a family of serfs; his ethnic origins remain unclear, with suggestions being made that he was Russian, Chuvash, Mordvin, or Kalmyk.[2] Despite this lower-class background he had risen to middle-class status, studying physics and mathematics at Kazan Imperial University before teaching at the Penza Institute for the Nobility.[3] Ilya married Maria Alexandrovna Blank in mid-1863.[4] Well educated and from a relatively prosperous background, she was the daughter of a German–Swedish woman and a Russian Jewish physician who had converted to Christianity.[5] It is likely that Lenin was unaware of his mother's Jewish ancestry, which was only discovered by his sister Anna after his death.[6] Soon after their wedding, Ilya obtained a job in Nizhny Novgorod, rising to become Director of Primary Schools in the Simbirsk district six years later. Five years after that, he was promoted to Director of Public Schools for the province, overseeing the foundation of over 450 schools as a part of the government's plans for modernisation. His dedication to education earned him the Order of St. Vladimir, which bestowed on him the status of hereditary nobleman.[7]
Yes, this is what I said - the evidence suggests lenin was 3/4 ethnically non-jew, and that he wasn't even aware of the 1/4 jew part.
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That's how life has always been for communists.
he wasn't cut and was raised in non-jewish traditions - fuck off
Many Jews hid their ethnic origin in Russia.
When the Russians realized it was Jews attempting to take over they were purged.
Also Russians hated Jews almost as much as Jews hated them.
Jews.
This kills the (((Russian)))
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According to satanic murderous twisted kike filth if spawned from a demotic jewess the status of full Jew is attained.
All communists claimed to be atheist but a statistical impossibly that that many of their mothers were jews
>was raised in non-jewish traditions
and become commie? yeah, sure
>Also Russians hated Jews almost as much as Jews hated them.
Communists Russians and Communist Jews certainly liked each other, enough to overthrow one of the biggest and most powerful countries in the world.
>expecting to convince people via dialectic rather than rhetoric
It's autistic to think that people just change their minds when confronted with contrary evidence. Usually it makes them believe their original position even harder, meaning you're actually making it less likely that they get redpilled in the long run.
If you can't use powerful rhetoric and sophistry to persuade people, just don't bother because you're making it worse. Thanks.
>According to satanic murderous twisted kike filth if spawned from a demotic jewess the status of full Jew is attained.
I thought the nazi argument was that jewish genetics were what was relevant, not religion. If religion is the standard, then neither marx or lenin were jewish at all.
As Weinstein has so obviously provided an example of, jews used fear, exploitation, usury, abuse of position and authority, and bribery to achieve the appearance of being liked.
I tend to use the pendulum argument regarding the german revolution and dont get emotionally invested in either side. Theres no need to glorify the nazis when you can skirt around it and just shit on the communists, especially to normies.
That's equivocating Jews are a race, religion, identifiable group, political agenda, and a nationality.
Nuances don't change reality we all know its not black and white as communism suggests
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>anywhere from 1.8[15] to 12 million[16] ethnic Ukrainians were said to have perished as a result of the famine.
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>38% of all Kazakhs died, the highest number of any ethnic grouped killed in the Soviet famines of the early 1930s.
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>Lenin wrote in his project of a directive for the Communist Party "The policies on the Ukraine" in autumn of 1919:
>Jews and city dwellers on the Ukraine must be taken by hedgehog-skin gauntlets,[19] sent to fight on front lines and should never be allowed on any administrative positions (except a negligible percentage, in exceptional cases, and under [our] class control)
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>Marx argues that the Jewish religion does not need to be attached to the significance it has in Bauer's analysis, because it is only a spiritual reflection of Jewish economic life. This is the starting point of a complex and somewhat metaphorical argument which draws on the stereotype of the Jew as a financially apt "huckster"
>Marx concludes, that "the Christians have become Jews"; and, ultimately, it is mankind (both Christians and Jews[14] that needs to emancipate itself from ("practical") Judaism.
>The second part of Marx's essay is frequently cited as evidence of Marx' antisemitism:
>Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew.
>Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew.
>What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.
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>was a Jewish preacher
So as we see Marx and Lenin weren't pro-Jewish. Jesus was Jewish. Holodomor victims were Ukrainians/Kazakhs.
This. This is what schools taught us here. (((Amerishart education.)))
This. Trying to sell "le nazis were the good guys" is moronic
>So as we see Marx and Lenin weren't pro-Jewish.
But everything they did resulted in bad things for whites and good things for Jews.
No in truth they were brilliant
Literally nothing they did was Jewish, not one synagogue built, banned circumcision, only gave Jews living space away from Muslims and Christians, so you had nice segregation and everybody lived happily ever after, while Americans suck Jewish penis 24/7/365.
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>In August 1919 Jewish properties, including synagogues, were seized and many Jewish communities were dissolved.
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>In 1919 the Soviet authorities abolished Jewish community councils, which were traditionally responsible for maintaining synagogues.
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>From 1919–1920, Jewish parties and Zionist organizations were driven underground as the Communist government sought to abolish all potential opposition.
>To that end a series of "community trials" against the Jewish religion were held. The last known such trial, on the subject of circumcision, was held in 1928 in Kharkiv.
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>Jewish and Muslim circumcision was claimed to cause gangrene, leading to fatalities.
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>In the late 1940s, the USSR became increasingly anti-Jewish and accusations of Zionism were frequently used
>Zionist activists in the USSR studied Hebrew (illegal in the USSR), held clandestine religious ceremonies (circumcision was illegal)
>But everything they did resulted in bad things for whites and good things for Jews.
Do you mean communism causing jews to not be able to practice their religion, many jews dying/jailed/being executed, and most of the ones who didn't having toeventually leave their homes? Sorry, but Communism was brutal to jews and non-jews alike - it's the facts.
Do you think when the Jews sociopathically engineered a famine that killed millions of people that they were totally unconscious of any racial differences between them and Ukrainians/Russians? That that brief moment in time was the one time when Jews forgot their 2,000 years of persecution by whites and acted with total equanimity towards whites?
>jews are just a religion not an ethnicity
The literal first piece of legislation passed by the Bolsheviks was the death penalty for antisemitism. Really makes you think.
>The literal first piece of legislation passed by the Bolsheviks was the death penalty for antisemitism. Really makes you think.
What does it make you think about? The Tsarist statues that the Bolsheviks removed were highly racist, e.g. preventing jews from holding many positions. A fundamental tenant of Bolshevism was that all races were equal - wouldn't you expect them to remove highly racist laws?
And the boar war, all the Jews doing.
Don't bother. You can't even convince these retards that Stalin, a Georgian who literally attended Orthodox seminary, wasn't Jewish.
They also take any correction as defense of Bolsheviks or communism.
Fuck history and knowledge, as long as it profits my side. That's the mentality of these niggers.