Is he one of the worst protagonists in anime history?

Is he one of the worst protagonists in anime history?

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He has shit taste

This so much.

>mfw he still chose generic waifubot even after that last episode with Rem

Without a doubt. Somehow he manages to not only be nearly useless and bites off way more than he can chew, but justify it all with lying so hard even he believes what he does is the only right choice.

Yes. He bitches and moans way too much.

He's the incarnation of Sup Forums. we hate him because he remember things that you hate in yourself.

So what was his reasons for not asking for help from those with powers?

Is he a retard? There's atleast 3 very competent people who could easily end this stupid forced drama, all three of them he's close with, yet he doesn't do anything.

i think he is the most ordinary user protagonists

taaaaa hahahaha

Go watch white album 1.

Character admits to being useless and complains too much.
>Sup Forums hates it

Character lifts himself from the abyss and makes him determined to not give up and follow his dream
>he talks too much

Same faggots who hated Shinji. Any character that hits too close to home, Sup Forums will hate.

Yes. He is so incredibly fucking retarded. I cannot believe people got through the first couple episodes with this idiot as the main character. I think he's supposed to represent the average we/a/boo.

The only site worse than reddit. Go home dude

Whine whine whine whine waaaaaahhhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhh
I'm so worthless I hate myself waaaaaaaaahhhh

subaru has his eyes on the higher prize. who wants a lowly servant when you could be with the next ruler of lugnica.

>Any character that hits too close to home, Sup Forums will hate.

Well yeah. Why would I hate myself any less just because I show up in an anime

could is the keyword

This

That part when he talked wasting time and not doing what he wanted when he had all the freedom hurt pretty bad.

Honestly this episode was hard to watch because it showed how much of my life I wasted.

No wonder Sup Forums despises him....it is a reflecting of themselves.

He's worse than useless though. He's legitimately a detriment to those close to him. I mean fuck, how many times has Rem died saving his worthless ass? And never once has he actually tried to make himself not useless.

And even after all that, plus that emotional bonding in the last episode, he still chose Emilia. The vanilla wafer who paid attention to him once or twice.

Subaru is trash.

>he's a speedwatcher

He wanted to run away with Rem. But Rem wanted him to stay and fight for Emilia. She wanted it this way.

You can't fake love. Picking Rem even though he doesn't love her is disingenuous. Honestly he fell in love with Emila the first time he saw her and yes it is irrational teenage love shit but that is how it works in real life.

Not the user you replied to but

>Girl comes along
>Pays a bit of attention to me and not much else
>"Better autistically fawn over her and turn into a giant sperg!"

>Another girl comes along
>Have actual chemistry together
>Accepts me along with my flaws and sees the good in me that I don't even see in myself
>"Nah I won't give you a chance. I'd rather just blindly follow someone who has and will continue to barely want me around."

You don't see a problem with this?

Nope. Even if he did piss away a bunch of episodes for fuck all nothing he's still better than a whole bunch of other protags.

You mean tumblr too right user?

>the classic "you only hate him because he hits too close home!" copout
If a character resembles a fucking Sup Forums poster he is definitely not a good character.

Wouldn't know.
The moment I learned it's isekai I dropped this shit. Long time before I watched even a single episode too, dodged a bullet there!

>tfw you were a loyal Emiliafag all along

First time in a while that Subaru was as cool guy, he could have caved in and settled for second best, but he chose Emilia instead.

What a cop out excuse. Sure some on Sup Forums hate him for that reason but plenty hate him simply because he is walking cancer. If anything he reminds me of that guy who would tell anybody anything that made himself sound better and just builds lie after lie until it all comes crashing down and THEN has the nerve to say it is everybody else's fault.

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>another girl comes along
>she turns you into meat paste

Subaru gave her plenty of chances. Maybe if she wasn't a homicidal psychopath he'd have more feelings for her.

Nah, he's a well written and realistic character, pic related is the worst and shitty written character in anime.

There is no bullet to dodge.

it's for the better that subaru chose emilia over rem. rem quickly maxed out her potential as a love interest and beyond the surface has little to no relevancy to the remaining story. it's even a good thing that tragedy befalls rem before people can see how boring she really is.

No, he's one of the best.

Being turned into bits of flayed meat by rem several times is a turnoff

they all refused and shit on him as a person, maybe REM helped him get over the negativity now

She wanted him to be looking forward to the future, which was the reason she started talking about all of her dreams for a family. It was to highlight how differently they viewed that prospect. It was a future she dreamed of and would have looked forward to, but to Subaru it was just giving up on what he really wanted. If Subaru actually had similar dreams of his own, she'd probably have said yes to his proposal.

I am conflicted on this because while he is pretty retarded about relationships as most anime protags are his reactions to being torn apart and killed over and over again seem pretty realistic. Most frustrating thing about him is that unless he is trying to figure out how to survive a situation he pursues the most retarded objectives. He should be trying to figure out about the nature of Return from Death and why he was brought to this world.

Whatever you say. Keep eating this shit.

Sucks to be you.
At least you're stubborn enough to never find out what you missed out on and then kick yourself over it.

Remfags BTFO, enjoy your vegetable as she stays irrelevant til arc 6.

Subaru knows how return by death works and that it's caused by Satella and he doesn't care why he was brought to this world

I like him when he's trying to overcome his death but the instant Emilia comes into his proximity he starts acting so fucking obnoxious with all that embarrassing LN dialogue and "flirting".

He could be, but that's not what matters to him.
Besides, the situations don't exactly allow for much respite due to the conflict that happens, and he certainly doesn't want to mess up his auto save.

Dude is such a drama queen. He is basically immortal and yet is traumatized by literally everything. Totally ruins the show. I hate all the bitches that fall for him for no reason. Only character I respect is Felt. I hope she fucks over everyone and Makes Re:Zero Great Again.

>I hate all the bitches that fall for him for no reason
And who has that been?

He doesn't know how it works, he killed Emilia last time he tried to disclose it to her and was surprised. Him not caring about why he was brought to this world is idiotic. He should care, even if he had a shit life before he was brought to this world, that was his own fault.

>I hate all the bitches that fall for him for no reason.
What bitches? Only character that has shown him any kind of affection is Rem. Emilia just feels indebted to him and liked that he was someone she could relate to as a normal person.

Yep, the situations that Nips consider to be 'flirty' or when Subaru is trying to earn her affections just seem spergy and autistic to any normal well-adjusted person. Anime has ruined my perception of Japanese men, I consider them all to be autists by western standards.

Because the guy in the anime succeeds in turning it around at some point.
Unlike you.

Well firstly, he is a horrible person. Secondly, dying FUCKING HURTS
Thirdly, seeing people you care about die in horrible ways over and over again is bad too.
Fourthly, imagine there was a whale that deleted the people you cared about from existence and then the game autosaved

This

No the worst of all time protagonist would be Shinji.

yeah but its not like he can do anything to build himself up

he cant build muscle mass, he cant use his magic in the loop since he busted his gate

so hes in a powerless position to gain physical strength and hes also ruined his social standing in the loop, so in a 2 day time frame how do you amass people who all think youre a loser or strengthen yourself to stop the oncoming threat

its a overburdening hurdle and its a pretty accurate way of embodying such stress

Knowing the isekai trope from being an otaku himself, he believed it was his chance to start over, like the title of the show implies. And despite all the setbacks, he has managed that to some degree, he now has people he cares for and who to varying degrees care for him too, which he didn't seem to have at all in his old life. There's absolutely nothing there for him to return to, which is why after he got sick of dying over and over, his idea was to escape to a place where he has no fear of death, and try to achieve as much happiness as he can, which presumably would be more than in his old life simply due to having Rem.

Not really seeing why he should care about how he got there. What matters to him right now is protecting Emilia.

I don't agree, many of the girls in the show feel outright disgust towards him and his actions. He's a shitty human being in general.

Emilia-tan doesn't have any context to judge his behavior from. To us, he's showing that he has an issue separating fantasy from reality by acting like he's in some kind of cliche romcom LN, but to Emilia he's just an eccentric guy who means no harm.

You can do plenty worse than Toyota

>dying hurts
How would you know? No one that's died has come back. Science tells us, once we're dead, there is no "feeling hurt".

He's a dramaqueen

>Subaru who is cursed by the witch is in love with someone half-trash who fits the description of the said witch.
>Sup Forums still thinks it is his free will.

Well it's not the process of death itself which hurts, it's more so what happened to cause the death which hurts.

Eh, I mean we don't know much about his old life other than the fact that he said he "never did anything". We don't know what relationships he had with other people, his parents, possible siblings etc. He clearly doesn't enjoy pain, and he understands his situation is fucked up. Even a boring life is better than one where you are constantly killed in painful ways and are faced with overwhelmingly horrific and depressing situations. Anyone who prefers the latter is mentally ill, and other than his autistic tendencies Subaru doesn't look to be mentally ill.

>I love Emilia
Shit, nigga, what are you doing?

>remfags still at it

Being a smart man with good taste.

Is the reason that Subaru's so attached to Emilia the dark witches influence?

If he only wanted attention and acceptance, he probably would've sodded off already. Same for infatuation or puppy love.

You don't choose your waifu, son

Getting injured hurts as well. You ever try to pass a kidney stone? Or get a cluster headache? Or step barefoot on a lego? Being disemboweled or frozen into pieces would feel peachy in comparison.

As I said, he already tried to escape from his suffering by escaping with Rem. That would (presumably) give him a happy life where he doesn't have to worry about dying over and over. But as we know, Rem convinced him that he shouldn't run away.

>You don't choose your waifu, son
This is the logic of an autist who chooses to see the world as it is and not do anything about it instead of seeing the world as they want it to be, and trying to change it. This is the logic of losers.

All the more proof that Rem is worst girl. She convinced him to continue his life of pain and suffering.

I don't think the curse would allow him to live a happy life.Remember the puppy who turned out to be a boss?It had no chance of meeting Emilia so it wouldn't be able to curse her.I think it was aimed at Subaru in the first place to give him a way to die in case shit didn't go as planned.It might be far fetched but I think the reason of Subaru's curse and those arbitary checkpoints is that his quest is making Emilia the queen.

but Rem IS a generic waifubot

Subaru admitted that he wanted to be great, but knew that his laziness and complacency--slothfulness, if you will--in the actual world put him at the whims of the much more able people and things around him.

It's not like he could have trained in magic, but he realized that anything that he could have done in the real world--be it more physical activity, social skills, sensible thinking, whatever--instead of sitting down and doing nothing productive might have been helpful in the world he's been thrown into. He lacked pretty much all of anything useful, and it generally ended up making him either being powerless or biting off more than he could chew and making a situation worse, regardless of how well-meaning he was.

He's got dreams to be great, but he confessed that he was all talk about it instead of actually doing, and it was in keeping up a facade that he put his ego over thinking and forgot how little he could really do.

He had accepted that he's a real self-insert someone that really can't do anything because of his own laziness, but the hope is found when, even at zero, he realized that he was able to start over. With all of his past mistakes to learn from and knowing now about what could be, he was more than ready to take a crack at a second chance.

He done fucked up in his first run around life; now it's time for him to try again.

So yeah--he was a pretty awful character. Was.
The fact that he admitted it and really does plan to change might change that.

Well, that's because literally no one can actually relate to his pain and suffering. He can't even try to explain it himself. To Rem, he went through some tough times and suddenly starts having panic attacks. At best she can understand that she doesn't know his suffering, but she can't even begin to imagine how deep it goes. All he can do is hope she takes his word for how much he's suffering, but she doesn't because to her it seems like he's just being really pessimistic, and that the right choice is to push him on. Makes me wonder how much good her encouragement will do him in the end, considering it's based on a lack of understanding of his situation.

>I don't think the curse would allow him to live a happy life.
Sure, I agree. But this persistence of the curse probably isn't obvious to Subaru himself. It's only obvious to the viewer because we're starting to see how it fits into the narrative. Subaru has a bit of a hero delusion, so to him he's just getting into all that shit because he insists on helping everyone out.

He was so cocky all the time early on and then he turns into a coward despite being able to restart. To top it off he gets the most wonderful confession a girl could give a guy and then shrugs it off for the shallow plastic doll that is Emilia. He's pretty damn shitty.

If you jump off the cliff, you die in less than couple of seconds.

Time to stop posting, Subaru.

How far that encouragement will go depends on how much Subaru really will do to make himself the "awesome" Subaru he can be.

Regardless of whether Rem ever does understand what Subaru's been through, encouragement is encouragement.

Being specific about it sounds nice, but I think "whatever it is you plan to do, don't give up on it" is good enough.

He's single mindedly chasing an ideal. Rather in line with his character so far, really.

I do think it would be hilarious if he turned Emilia into an ideal she could not possibly fill.

His bitching and moaning during recent episodes are making me watch this crap on x2.0 speed.

What is it with Japan and crybaby faggot MCs?

Being the powerless arrogant ass he is/was, there isn't that much more to expect from someone that can only helplessly lash out.

Because her from a isekai novel don't look up isekai novel.

I feel like the only way you could watch this show without cringing would be to have some sort of fetish for gross, self-pitying incompetence.

Also episode 18 was 'crying on a tower-top'. The WHOLE thing. Fuck this shows pace. I cannot handle this. I don't even care what happens anymore. Dropped.

>the episode was him admitting that everything he had done was fucking disgusting
It should have at least been cathartic to see him finally call himself garbage.

See you next week.

>20 minutes of Subaru crying followed by Rem getting cucked till kingdom come
Not the guy you quoted, but screw it. I'm done.

This too much. Also wanting to achieve something without doing any effort hit too close. Fuck you Subaru for waking me up when it's too late.

We can always start over.
It'll be harder to take another chance this far in, but it doesn't mean you can't try.

I was really mixed on this weeks episode. To me this episode seemed to say Toyota is aware of his own powerlessness and that he gives up on/runs away from everything, but the rest of the series doesn't really imply this. He continues trying to help Emilia/Rem/Ram even after being rejected/killed multiple times, and we have objective proof that he can do something, namely saving Emilia and Rem's lives by doing something only he in the re zero universe can do. In fact, this weeks episode is the first time we've actually seen him try to give up/run away.

I know that his faults can be inferred through the pre-isekai flashbacks, but isn't the fact that he never showed any tendency to give up/run away before now a bit incongruous?

Also it's worth noting Rem went from not knowing Mitsubishi to being in love with him over the course of about a week.

When I think about how shitty Subaru is, I don't even get mad. I feel sick. For the first time I genuinely feel I have been trolled by my korean cartoons.

Still, Rem is pure love. This episode made me shiver. I regret NOTHING.

He's basically hit a brick wall these past few episodes and feels that these events are way out of his league and his interference either won't change anything or might make things worse
Initially his opponents were beings he could actually fight, like Elsa or the mabeasts, and he had some relatively powerful allies. Now he's going up against a giant whale that eats people out of existence, a witch cult led by a madman with powers given to him by satan, and the only people who can help him in time want nothing to do with him.

>This weeks episode is the first time we've actually seen him try to give up/run away
He's been running away from his problems since he got isekai'd, it's why he was so upbeat about getting another shot at life and didn't seem to give a shit about going back.

>Rem went from not knowing Mitsubishi to being in love with him over the course of about a week
I believe there was about a month timeskip between the mansion arc and the trip to the capital

It's that kind of infatuation that occurs when someone does something real heartwarming to you. It's like phase one love.

For Rem, it was when Subaru brought her back up from her lowest point. I think anyone would at least fall for, if not want be together with, someone who could do that.

hardly

What is the logic behind checkpoints?Why does he wake up in front of that greengrocery?

He's a complete fucking idiot, but I can't help but like him. I don't see myself in him at all, though. Even I'm not this stupid.

Even though I hate him I still think he has potential.

mr. shop owener is a witch of greed

Appaman is Satella's underling,

his brain ain't right but it's fun