The Fifth Great Awakening

Many people on the right and on Sup Forums talk about Generation Z being the most conservative generation since the pre-war II era, however they ignore Generation Z surprisingly high religiosity. Whilst the Baby Boomers in young adulthood had a church attendance rate of 26% Gen Z is currently at 41%

Yes God does exist, and this is coming from someone who was an atheist untill a month ago. (I'm Gen Z aswell) Currently I am a Deist, but I expect that to change as I read more philosophy and Theology.
It's a shame that you don't take religion more seriously Sup Forums larping as a crusader isn't going to save the west, superior morality and traditional values will.

With conservatism growing more rapefugees pouring into the west,and with such a religious youth I cannot see how this combustible mix will not produce an fifth great awakening.

This is only a bad thing to Godless and/or Liberal Millennials, this is Europe's salvation.

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nypost.com/2017/09/27/one-third-of-young-people-consider-themselves-gay-or-bisexual-study/
youtube.com/watch?v=YrXjmHdA1tg&t=898s
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marketingweek.com/2016/09/14/behaviour-versus-demographics-why-the-term-millennial-is-useless/#.V9kYPw2SASg.twitter
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ways_(Aquinas)
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thethirdwayofevolution.com/
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Daily reminder that athiesm was made popular through c*mmunists

bump for fellow gen z

Daily reminder that the average modern human is a contrarian narcissist and needs to be put down.

face it christcucks, your jew religion is dead.

>Denmark
>calling anyone else cucked
Lel

You know,christianity has way more influences than just jewish

I see no proof of this "DUDE GEN Z IS SO TRADITIONAL LMAO" narrative Sup Forums is forcing on others.
Yes, some Gen Z kids larp as traditional, but millennials did the same.

Gen Z mostly hates politics and the rest vote for the generic socialist parties bec their parents told them to can confirm bec Gen Z myself

Very well, here's one from the US calling you all christcucks.
Your religion holds the lion's share of the blame for our current problem. Their insistence that all men are equal under god, that our souls are interchangable, and the focus on giving all your shit to the poor and worthless of the world rather than those of your race... look what's happened now! All well and good to love thy neighbor until he invites himself in and never leaves!
We do need a value system, we do need to respect our ancestors, we do need non-pozzed heroes. Christianity doesn't give us any of that.

Bump cuz Im an old fag and this thread gives me hope.

You have obviously not looked this up
letmegooglethat.com/?q=Is generation Z conservative?

This. I'm noticing so many people turning to Christ or rather "re"-turning. Many people today come from religious families that unfortunately did not teach their kids their own values.

And as people grow they mostly abandon atheism, because atheism is morally and logically incoherent.

God is the logical end-point of this philosophy. You just have to come to the realization that the Bible is God's word and it's easy to get into heaven once you open yourself up to the gospel.

A non cucked swede for once? Am I dreaming?

Christian values > cult of cuckoldry

CAN ANYONE READ MY POSTS

I FEEL SHADOWBANNED AND NEED SOME NON-AI OC

"We do need a value system, we do need to respect our ancestors, we do need non-pozzed heroes." If you are ignorant about a topic do not impose it on other as fact, You can start from here.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Paganism#Pagan_influences_on_Christianity

Gen Z is even more liberal than Millenials imo. I’m a MtF and I’m a millennial. I seem to be encountering more and more “gender-fluid” individuals and they are all Gen Z.

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>be gen z
>24% faggots
nypost.com/2017/09/27/one-third-of-young-people-consider-themselves-gay-or-bisexual-study/

That's because the idea has been imposed on us from an early age, however the fact still remains that we are more conservative and religious than any generation for 75 years.

I think thats just because gays arent opressed anymore and because of their new freedom they "come out" more.Even in times before the amount would have probably been roughly the same but because homosexuals were opressed they had to hide their sexuality

Estrogen and mass child molestation also are also making people gay

True,I forgot about that completley

Pagan moral values were nothing like Christian values.

oh great more superstitious morons because reality is too hard

> thinking that's christianity

The first major church to become pro-white openly will carry the next generation to new levels of faith. Sadly, no church I'd interested in doing that today and they all insist brown Christianity is the future. If this trend does not abate the faith will be worthless to whites forever. Even if they overcome the odds no white man with forget the churches were all arrayed against his survival.

Don't forget anti-pregnancy pills that devastate women and destroy their hormones and behavior. All women use pills from age 14 until they're 35, and then they have messed up kids.

>and this is coming from someone who was an atheist untill a month ago
OK, I'll wait another month while your worldview totally changes again. Children's opinions literally don't matter.

On the off chance you are not a shill, I have three videos for you to watch. I hope you will stay open minded and not be blinded by your own arrogance.

youtube.com/watch?v=YrXjmHdA1tg&t=898s

youtube.com/watch?v=QeBJEPAlq2g&t=403s

youtube.com/watch?v=_0fK9KTguxw&t=1740s

My point still stands regardless of my beliefs.

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A few of my contributions on this topic, user.
Godspeed.

I'm a millennial and I firmly believe in God. If religiosity is coming back, I am very happy about that. Let my generation be an example to you of what happens to a people THAT FORGET THE GLORY OF GOD.

I’m a pig fan of pic related

I personally think a combination of atheism, post modernism and lack of tradition will cause the future youth rebellions to back to tradition and faith.

It makes sense, how do you be edgy in a word that embraces fucking trannies and satanists

I would argue that people like Jordan Peterson and other right wing you tubers are the early voices in this long and broad trend reversal.

Just as there were atheistic marxists voices founding hippy and enviromental issues in the 1930’s and 40’s these are the neo transendentalists and romantics founding the cultural changes hat will hit the mainstream in about 20 years

Oh sorry pic related

We *will* save the world, OP.

Yes I have. I see all these "studies".
So I'm supposed to be excited because Gen Z has a conservative element to it just like millennials did? What exactly is that supposed to prove?

Read some GK Chesterton laddy

If you have read the studies you should know that Generation Z is more conservative and religious than the Millenials. It proves that society is finally rebelling against the sexual revolution of the 1960s.

>I personally think a combination of atheism, post modernism and lack of tradition will cause the future youth rebellions to back to tradition and faith.
It wouldn't be the first time it happens.

Major backlash.

>If you have read the studies you should know that Generation Z is more conservative and religious than the Millenials
By what, a few percent? No it doesn't. You buy into the memes too much. There is an effort out there to make people believe that we live in a prude society so the west is no longer criticized for it's immorality. You fall right into that.
>It proves that society is finally rebelling against the sexual revolution of the 1960s
If that were true, then porn would be on it's way out, so would slut culture in general. But it's not, it's only growing stronger.

Thanks for the recommendation, another thing I have noticed is the growing Traditionalist community on YouTube, the next few decades are going to be interesting.

sauce? sounds interesting

You already see people refuting social media and cable and other hallmarks of modern technology.

don’t be surprised that people find themselves feeling distanced from the natural word and start purposely living without tech.

If you think that’s crazy just look at the popularity of organic food

True Im a Z and I found religion just a while ago.

>religion not race

Well, you might already reject it completely, but The Bible. Even if you don't believe in the spiritual stuff, the timeline of progression in The Bible is usually:

>People are desperate and need God.
>Begin worshipping Him.
>Are blessed and have good lives.
>Generation(s) goes by, people are living well and don't care about God, stop praying, stop believing.
>Elders warn the younger generation to not forget God, youth doesn't care.
>God destroys their lives, scatters them.
>Hard times again.
>People again find God and begin to pray, the good times return.

Repeat. Even if you neglect the God stuff, it's clear that this sort of social cycle of tradition and liberation has been a thing for at least thousands of years (at least amongst historically civilized people). Religiosity and tradition brings the good times, decadence and atheism brings the bad times.

Yeah, prosperity breeds complacency and decay, then those who are wise enough to recover go back to the traditions that made them successful in the first place.

"By what, a few percent? No it doesn't. You buy into the memes too much. There is an effort out there to make people believe that we live in a prude society so the west is no longer criticized for it's immorality. You fall right into that."

The diffrence is not a few percent, 59% of Gen Z call themselves moderate/conservative whilst 83% and 85% of the Millennials and Gen X respectively call themselves Liberal. Society is still very degenerate and immoral I don't think this is going to happen soon. It will be a few decades at least.

marketingweek.com/2016/09/14/behaviour-versus-demographics-why-the-term-millennial-is-useless/#.V9kYPw2SASg.twitter

"If that were true, then porn would be on it's way out, so would slut culture in general. But it's not, it's only growing stronger."

We are only at the start of this shift so there are not going to be many clear changes at the moment.

Muslims will pay

Yes, count my reply as atheist charity religion fag :P

I could say the same to you, you ignorant prick. Anyone who is still religious at this point should off themselves. No point in carrying on I'm afraid. You are weak minded and shouldn't be allowed to exist.

what did you read or experience that made you become religious?

>tfw I want to believe.

You don't even deserve a bump anymore. I hate to be one of those fags, but please brah, learn how to greentext.
Why would you barf out those numbers about Gen Z and millennials, but then post a link that says that the term millennial is useless? Is this a joke?
>We are only at the start of this shift so there are not going to be many clear changes at the moment
That sounds like an excuse, I don't buy these memes. This "Gen Z is so traditional" talking point insists we see the results now before us, and no, we don't.
Young people don't even know what conservative or traditional means anymore. It's all larping and labels.

I'm glad to see many fellow Gen Z here, keep the faith hopefully I can join you soon.

>murder is wrong
both
>stealing is wrong
both
>generosity is good
both
>sacrifice is good
both
>a god sacrificing himself for man
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>death of the son of the highest god
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>family is important
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>respect of property is good
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>lazyness is bad
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>hospitality is good
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seems like they are more alike than you'd like to believe?
Got something to tell us, Rabbi?

Try these, user, in the context of the respective OPs.

>conservative
>Christian
Pick one.

I'm not religious, but I believe in God. Here are some pointers.

youtube.com/user/ChairmanDrek757/videos?disable_polymer=1

youtube.com/channel/UCbiEAICCX-lyat0IOUIbyCA

youtube.com/channel/UC2yh-MfL2LamSVqb76fEPCg

These three channels are a good starting point. If you want to have a good basis for believing in God not just muh beauty, you will need to read lots of philosophy and theology, but for now you can watch these.

youtube.com/watch?v=4vGlocV1wgY

youtube.com/channel/UCrI5U0R293u9uveijefKyAA

Ultimately though it is up to you though, I wish you the best of luck.

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No where did Jesus ever say it was OK to steal from one person to heal another.

I don't think alot of People Realise that the Swing To The Right the last 5 Years (Gamergate, Pizzagate, Trump Election, Brexit) Is the Beginning of the Long Prophesised Age Of Aquarius.

Truth transcends reality, try it.

"Why would you barf out those numbers about Gen Z and millennials, but then post a link that says that the term millennial is useless? Is this a joke?"

The figures don't lie, doesn't mean I have to agree with the opinionated part of the article.

"That sounds like an excuse, I don't buy these memes. This "Gen Z is so traditional" talking point insists we see the results now before us, and no, we don't.
Young people don't even know what conservative or traditional means anymore. It's all larping and labels."

It's not an excuse, instead of just repeating you point about how we don't see the results now please tell me how I was wrong about.

"We are only at the start of this shift so there are not going to be many clear changes at the moment."

Yeah, Jesus was a man of the law. He wouldn't accept illegal migrant crossings.

He'd call those people thieves, exactly what they are. Jesus paid no mind to ever being politically correct.

That's why you are supposed to donate like a good Christian. But you don't

You are thinking of " Robbing Peter to pay Paul"

>Jesus paid no mind to ever being politically correct.
Also, that's kind of why He died in the first place.

You are on the right track. If you like reason, try this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ways_(Aquinas)

Edward Feser's presentation of the Five Ways is better imho.
edwardfeser.com/home.html
And before any
> evolution disproves God/Bible LMAO
Read up on the latest in evolutionary theory
thethirdwayofevolution.com/

>archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/120132023/#120132023
thanks user, reading now

You are still showing your arrogant behaviour.
All I have to say is keep and open mind.

>Thinks he's the first person to ever denounce religion.
Even the Bible talks about atheists and how arrogant and blind they are. You are not enlightened, you are just self-absorbed by your need to feel like you are above others. Your ilk is nothing new. People thousands of years ago were going "pffft religion." Fedora lords are nothing new in spirit.

That what Bible do you recommend Sven? Because afai, there's atleast half a dozen.
So what is it? Roman Catholicism? Protestantism? Orthodoxy?

Relevant video to expand on that idea.
youtube.com/watch?v=kDKGvg6HeyY&t=2s

r/AcademicBiblical is a good place to lurk for good information on scholarly perspectives of the Bible, particularly the NT scriptures and the resurrection. The general consensus among the regular posters there seems to be that Jesus didn't really rise from the dead but that they (earliest Christians) believed in an immediate "ascension" into Heaven in a spiritual, non-bodily sense, and after thinking about it and interpreting Jesus after-the-fact through the lens of the OT scriptures and their hopes at the time ended up creating a more vivid, literal resurrection story; first orally and eventually scripturally. There is good arguments for this hypothesis but it isn't provable.

Just read KJV alongside a modern day translation.

I recommend reading the Book of Matthew if you don't have time for the whole Bible.

On your mobile, search for

ignatius study bible app

An excellent resource

You're welcome, user. Good luck.

Well, I actually read the King James Bible and the Swedish Bible from 1917. There is also a Bible called "Folkbibeln" from 1998, which is a modern translation made by the Evangelical movement, but I stopped reading that one because they release new and "improved" versions every year, which tells me it's a big fraud. The modern Swedish Bible that mainstream churches used is called "Bibel 2000" and is crazy -- stay away!

If you meant denomination, I am a Baptist.

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Thanks, I've been wanting to read Christian theology for a while now, hopefully your suggestions will be an eyeopener.
Once again, thank you for your suggestions.

KJV isn't the most accurate English bible. I would personally recommend the NASB for accuracy. It isn't as pretty seeing as it isn't written in Elizabethan English but that isn't the most important thing when reading scripture.

This looks like good stuff user, just started and I like the approach. Definitely a good articulation so far.
t. 5 years convert, Latin Rite Traditional Catholic and loving it, Sin calls, and I want to run from the goodness into every sort of vice such is my fucked-upness. I went through a materialistic awakening to the wisdom of Christianity too, a good while before I decided to give prayer one last try in life and walked into a church a few weeks later. I took it careful and skeptical, but enough happened to keep me there. Maybe I was lucky, I put it down to providence and telling Him some pretty strong conditions (I've been in fakestianity before), but I found a good church with holy trad priests who know what's going on and aren't dumb. Never looked back and there honestly isn't a price you could offer me to entice me to walk away.

Welcome home.

By the way, there's a really great Bible app called "MySword" where you can add your own Bibles by downloading them and putting them in your phone. You can even add texts "parallel" to compare different Bible versions side by side. You can also add bookmarks and favorite verses, notes and stuff.

I think it's open source without any adds too. Really great tool.

Good luck mate.

Stop trying to find an excuse for this conservative thought or that, do not politicize Him, do not try to promote Him under the guise of Politics. You're disgraceful

I'm so happy for you, user. The biggest hurdle to overcome is our need for constant validation that betrays our lack of trust, or faith. What we call skepticism and justify as the most rational way to live is but the consequence of this traumatic loss of trust that makes us overcareful and cowardly before the irreducible complexity and uncertainty of life and the future, that skepticism is also hopeless to solve. Fortunately, we learn to place our trust in the eternally 'undisappointing' God and thus prevent and remedy the trauma caused by worldly concerns and pursuits.

Glad to be useful.

I'd also recommend relevant books by Dr. Peter Kreeft. He makes the Summa very accessible.

Anyone interested in Christian theology should read Calvin’s institutes. You can’t get anything better.

Religions are always a bluepill - if they weren't, then why do they demand their veracity be taken on faith alone?

Look at the parallels between religions and leftism. It's the same Jewish garbage

>Calvin’s institutes
That's a funny way of saying Summa Theologica

Okay Anons, so this sacrifice thing, pretty dumb and ugly, right?
Look again. Look at what you know. Mankind has been a religious creature from the start. Archaeological finds invariably contain some religious element. And in all there is a thing called sacrifice, there is some sacrificial logic.

Now before you dismiss that as ignorant and superstitious, bare in mind that the language of sacrifice is always with us, as therefore is the underlying logic. We may not sacrifice a cow to the sun God for our food, but we do sacrifice our time to the money god (the system, the Big Other which guarantees our well-being if we engage in the transaction with it). Consider the ancient Canaanite throwing their children into Molech's fire: "Oh Molech, please guarantee our crops, and take this gift", and juxtapose it with the woman having an abortion because it would incovenience her career: "Oh Big Other of the social-ladder, please take this life in payment for my promotion." Is there really that much different? Are we really "beyond such superstitions".

It is a part of us user. God don't need sacrifices, we do. So He took care of it and was made man.

I'm commenting on the coming fifth great awakening and the possible effects, anything which could be interpreted as trying to politicise him is not intentional.

Incorrect. In fact, the Bible is way ahead of you, because even though we have tons of evidence that the Bible is indeed the Word of God, the Bible actually rejects that line of reasoning, and asks us to believe in God's word through faith, not evidence.

Remember when Jesus was on the cross, and the Jews screamed at him, "COME DOWN FROM THE CROSS THAT WE MAY SEE AND BELIEVE!", but Jesus had already told them, "The Jews require a sign, but there shall no sign be given unto this wicked and adulterous generation, but the sign of the prophet Jonah." Keep in mind that Jesus had performed miracles in front of their eyes, and they STILL did not believe him.

It's not evidence or science that leads to salvation. It is the GOSPEL that's the power of God unto salvation for anyone that believes -- not evidence.

The Gospel was a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Greeks, but to us that are saved it's the power of God.

>I'm commenting on the coming fifth great awakening
Did you make this up?

>not intentional.
>"Many people on the right and on Sup Forums talk about Generation Z being the most conservative generation since the pre-war II era, however they ignore Generation Z surprisingly high religiosity. Whilst the Baby Boomers in young adulthood had a church attendance rate of 26% Gen Z is currently at 41%"
>Posts all this on Sup Forums

Please stop lying to yourself

God bless you brothers. We all come at it along different paths, but in the end there's only one that matters.

What exactly is a Great Awakening and what were the past four?

Jordan Peterson is good, but he isn't actually religious. He is good at psychology tho.

The only idiots who suggest Jesus was a "leftist" are atheist retards that don't believe in him in the first place and haven't even read the Bible.