Collectivist hate thread

ITT we trash collectivism in all its forms, including but not limited to: Communism, Fascism, Marxism, National Socialism, Democratic Socialism

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corporations are collectivists, there are only corporations, families are corporations, a nation is a corporation of corporations, collectives of collectivists, its all about the rules, whos writing them and whos enforcing them,

>no concentration camps
what will you do with your jews tho?

...your family, your friends, your race, your nation

oh shut the fuck up degenerate. all you Anarchists want is legal pedophilia, fucking hang yourself

>libertarianism is against nationalism
Words do have meanings, you know.

I used to be full blown 100% Libertarian... I'm slightly leaning towards conservatism these days but still very Libertarian... I believe very much in freedom and the principles on which this country was founded...

People can talk about ideology all day long, but I think most of us can agree that government spending needs to be significantly reduced. We need a reform agenda and we need it asap... Elect people who will actually cut, Cruz would've been much better than Trump

lol you're an idiot... Libertarians are not in favor of that shit

Libertarians aren't ancaps you faggot commie.

Me too. I'm libertarian with respect to government, but I recognise that our society needs to be a family one, not an individualist one. I also recognise the value of religion and that the more people who fear God and thus live by Judeo-Christian values the better society will be.

Go away normie, everyone hates you here.

>Cruz would've been much better than Trump

Cruz has no stable principles; remember, he became pro choice for a bit just because Trump happened to be pro life.

Also agree with the Cruz part. Not nominating Cruz was the biggest mistake the GOP had made, and he was within reaching distance. America's been waiting for another small government conservative for almost 90 years since Coolidge and they had to go and pick a big government ex-democrat.

Against war is a bit stupid if you want to uphold the non-aggression-pact. Just nuke me senpai

Do that freedom and principles apply to other races and creeds?

Lurk more, faggot

>normie
>unironically using nazi flag

The individual does not exist
Each person is not just their physical body, but also their actions and decisions. Unless a person lives in complete seclusion, they are constantly in contact with other people and the society as a whole, and as such are a part of a collective.

To say you hate collectivism, which is simply any ideology which recognizes that each person is a part of a larger group, is to say you hate people as a whole and if you do so, then you can live in exile in the wilds by yourself.

The rest of us have a society to manage together

absolutely... I would, as would most like minded people, be against any law that would discriminate against a group of people...

At the core of Libertarianism is freedom and equality under the law, a completely level playing field. Free people who are free to live their lives as they see fit. As long as you're not violating someone elses rights (that is an essential point) you can do whatever you want

>he thinks multiculturalism can work
enjoy having your kids speak spanish because it's the only way for them to get a job

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Yeah I would totally agree with that... A total "ayn randian" society where there are no cultural values, simply everyone being extremely individualistic would never work...
I also stand off a little bit from all of the policies pushed by the Libertarian party... A decade ago, they pushed for smaller government in the economy and abroad. We kinda thought of drug legalization and prostitution and these other things as technically part of it, but they weren't the central focus... Today, it's like the Libertarian party #1 issue is legalizing pot... What the fuck man 20 trillion in debt heading towards a debt crisis and you're leading with the pot issue?

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You think Trump is more principled than Cruz? no way... Trump has been surprisingly ineffective at getting things done up to this point... He hasn't been terrible but he's been pretty ineffective

>not knowing what fascism is
>on Sup Forums
this is some very disappointing shitposting, australia

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agreed.
What do you mean by that? If his kids are working in service industries they will have to learn different languages. And they will get payed handsomely for it.

Yeah it's like calling Conservatives Nazi's!

that's primarily been because of his principles though
he only recently said he'd consider executive orders to do something about healthcare since republicans in congress are being cunts

What I mean is that the USA is becoming more hispanic every day to the point where soon english will no longer be the majority spoken language in the country and people who don't speak spanish will be unemployable at even a fucking mcdonalds

multiculturalism can and does work in the US because we have a free society... Pointing to a language barrier and saying that's a failure of multiculturalism is disingenuous... Do you understand the concept of freedom and capitalism? I don't mean that in a condescending way

What Is Cultural Marxism?

>returnofkings.com/114104/what-is-cultural-marxism

D&C kike thread
Sage

read you are being replaced

if you want a nice recent example of this, look at Kosovo
your "freedom" and capitalism won't save you from this

The Postmodern Mindset

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Nah man, that's utter bullshit.

I love my homeland,and I will defend it

Also,if you did not get it yet,my homeland is my property,not some limits determined by wars and kings centuries ago

tell that to Kosovo

good luck defending it against a professional army

>libertarians will defend this

Libertarianism is a Socialist ideology, particularly in the mutualist and anarchist tradition.

Comparing Albanias and Serbs to Americans and Spaniards...

Do I even need to go into that?

But remember, Trump was this great negotiator who was going to get things done so easily... Now he's blaming the others for the lack of success...
The healthcare bill is not great and it's not far off original Obamacare... If it was fantastic then it would have more support... He hasn't had any traction on the wall, taxes or healthcare... Those were major promises that he made...
On the other side, he also promised to surround himself with great people and appoint great leaders... I think he has done exactly that and held his promise... I think he has been very strong on foreign policy, much better than Obama was and has made solid gains against ISIS in the middle east... So he's done some great leadership things, but as far as passing legislation there has been none up to this point... that's about the most fair and honest assessment i can give... I love the USA and want her to thrive, and I voted for Trump, just being as honest as I can be

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS / CULTURAL MARXISM

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I am not going to declare war on anyone

If I need something I buy it

But if the state wants to take my property(communism) I will defend myself and what is mine

Therefore,having weapons is a right to defend what is yours

>accepting shitty contracts
lmao

you're right, Albanians and Serbs are culturally much closer to one another than Anglo Americans and Hispanic Americans
It'll be even worse in the USA

Regular people are too dumb to be allowed total freedom. We need an authority to keep them in line and repel their inherent degeneracy.
If you think shit is degenerate now, you don't want to even know what a lolberg society would be like.

>being this delusional
kek

how old are you?
my boomer sense is giving me a migraine

I fell stupid insulting you on a personal level. But with that kind of logic, I can only say: go back to school kid.

Why do you want to tell other people how to be?

Live your life and defend your interests,but let others think what they want

Of course,they must not harm you or your property,and if they do it you have the right to act

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>bitches about working-class people not having the sophistication to properly negotiate for their own interests
>flips the fuck out when the workers try to collectively join together to negotiate for their own interests

Reminder that libertarians and fascists have temporary alliance until the red scum is destroyed

people haven't been able to "live and let live" for millenia
what makes you think they'll be able to now?

if you have anything of value, others will desire it, and they will organize an army to get it if they have to

unions are just a way to take away personal responsibility
"oh no i didn't properly negotiate my contract - oh it's ok, the union will fuck shit up for me"
it's retarded

>no wars, concentration camps or oppression
>worships Pinochet and muh helicopter rides
Yeah ok

>complains about collective representation for workers
>owns stocks

Actually yes,our enemy are the commies,socialists,liberals,etc.

For example,in the country I live in it had a civil war(spanish) and I would have joined in the fascist side

Atleast they respect private property,and that is beyond everything

>Marxism______also______a______theory______of______revolution

Political Correctness and Cultural Marxism.

what a lackluster response

Companies especially in the 21st century know the importance of having happy healthy workers... Employees that put out would quit and find a better job... or they would strike and bargain for a higher wage. There is a correlation between the value a worker provides and the amount he/she is paid... Someone is not going to be providing a company 150k a year in value and making only 20k a year... another company would happily pay that employee more than 20k a year if he can provide 150k a year in value... prices drive the economy and prices are set by supply and demand... your scenario is fiction and only happens in countries that are heavily governed

You can always hire private security or make associations with other men to defend your properties,united against communism

as a spanish libertarian, are you for or against Catalonian independence?

>You can always hire private security
I hope you realize where this line of thinking is headed in the long run

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Fuck off (((lolberg)))

>nazbol

Or how about this? You pay some taxes and just have a police force like an adult society you dumb fuck

>be a libertarian
>think collective ownership is wrong
>think collective contracts are wrong
>sees nothing wrong with owning stocks

On the one hand I think people have the right get independence from a country

On the other hand,the catalonians politicians are leftists

I guess that im with spain,fuck the leftists

I'm not a libertarian, bozo

what a principled libertarian you are

and there is nothing wrong with investing capital into other companies, it's what made my country rich
you should look into what happened after the Amsterdam Stock Exchange was founded

Minarchists are the cancer. They think the gov will always stay small. It's like a retarded kid who never read history.

again, you take things out of context...

comparing privately owned shares of a company to property being owned by society as a whole... if you don't see the major differences there then the jokes on you

Reminder that Fascism is pretty much as bad as communism, although people automatically see fascism as evil and bad (not that it is not) and there is really no room for debate relating to fascism.

Communism on the other hand many see as good since sharing has to be good and so does equality and look at those "evil" guys with lots of money, we should have some of that money too. Most don't see communism as a evil and many even see it as good or atleast a neutral idea.

This is why communism is far far worse than facism, fascism does not hide what it is and people have a permanent disgust towards it, communism hides behind equality and poor arguments and is like a cake made of poision, it looks nice but is deadly.

there is no "alliance" between libertarians, whilst I am all for a more conservative society and not the kind of false conservatism we see so often today I am all for a libertarian economy.

I will not have my freedoms or my economy taken away by communists or fascists, but I do know who the most dangerous of the two is (Communists and antifa and all those groups)

Perfectly sums up libertarianism.
>you can freedom unless it messes with muh profits and muh precious capitalism
In a libertarian world. Capitalism > everything else

What part of «voluntarism» is too english for you, Enrique?
Collective ownership is bad when it is involuntary (i.e. Coercive).

So let the dumbfuck lefties have their own country.
In fact kick them headfirst out.
The right to self determination is fundamental to any liberty-based philosophy.

>Fascism is pretty much as bad as communism
bet you don't even know what fascism is

>Unless you live in complete seclusion
But we do, user. Does anyone else know your thoughts? Does anyone else think exactly the same way you do? Does anyone else know what is in your heart?

Easy boys, we're all on the same side.

No,I live near to catalonia and a lotlas of frienda live there

They dont want to live in a pseudo communist state

They think its better to stay in spain than to live there

Also,as an ancap,I dont support thr creation of new states,it just quits one problem and creates another one

>multiculturalism can and does work in the US

Do you have a single fact or statistic to back that up?

did you fucking read?
my every day actions and decisions affect all the people that live around me

I am an individual only in the sense that I am responsible for my own actions and decisions, but those actions and decisions are taken while I am part of a collective

Niggers ruined every capitalist society that has been created

If their total deport benefits the creation of a capitalist society,I support it

lol no... you're just displaying your lack of understanding

> you can freedom unless it messes with muh rights... (yes, your rights too)

Freedom can't exist without capitalism because every other form of economics is force and not just the free exchange of goods and services...

you sound more like a nationalist than a libertarian desu

Take the Paleo-Libertarian pill. The existence of leftists themselves violates the NAP.

As an ancap i rekect the notion of government but i fully support secessionism.
Sure it makes a new state. But there is no reason to fear the number of states, only the size of each individual state.
Secessionism splits one larger state into two smaller.
This lessens the authoritarian capabilities of both and increases the economic competition between states.

>rekec
Reject

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>not taking the ethno-monarchy pill

Communism is our common enemy

I would support temporaly a libertarian state if that means the total defeat of socialism

The objective justifies the means.(or whateaver you say it in english)

the ends justify the means

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Yes I do, but I am not one of the people to go "Hurr durr Hitler was bad" "6 Million" I dont disagree that Hitler was bad but that does not rule out the ideology as being bad, the ideology is bad in itself.

I dont agree with forced supression of ideas, I will fight for your right to say "I hate jews and blacks" but I will also fight for others rights to peacefully disagree with you. I am totally against commnunism and liberalism and any left wing lunacy but I would rather let idiots be idiots peacefully so others can see how stupid they are, obviously in situations they would have to be controlled as they are rather prone to getting violent.

I dont agree with the state having a heavy control over the economy and businesses, I am for a smaller more effiecent state (think Thatcher)