Windfuckingmills

Can I get a red pill on windmills Sup Forums? I have these fucking things in my area of residence and I fucking hate them. I hate looking at them, and I hate the way they ruined the beautiful landscape. I've read about them being horribly inefficient but jewgle is only showing fake news about them now. Any friendly user out there specialists, or have relevant information about them?

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i worked for a place that used the same company as the company that made the rotors for the windmills in WA. He would tell me how big of a waste of time and money it was but the government was basically paying his salary so he didnt mind. even an insider knew and didnt care.

Yes I've had similar friends tell me the same thing. That is, if the government didn't subsidize the shit out of the windmills no one would build them because they are so inefficient and trash. Did the jews prop up this entire industry to make shekels at the expense of our beautiful landscapes?

Apparently they kill shit loads of birds and dats not good

kike shilling and shekel generators from "carbon taxes".

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Ontario pays billions for electricity now because of policies to be "green energy" and from windmills. You can look up the kwh costs and it looks fine for them, but they have literal "delivery fees" for energy now that are through the roof in costs. all because they think its better to gouge the citizens, pay money to jews and call it renewable energy than to fucking support real energy. the maintenence and costs for installation and energy generated combined with destroying the fucking countryside and having these ugly ass fucking windmills covering your horizon and viewpoints just further communist fucking destruction and demoralization of populations.

Their only use is giving people warm fuzzies about saving the planet.

They are shit at generating electricity and they are terrible for the environment. They even produce more CO2 than they save.

yes jews ruin everything but that goes without saying

thanks guys. I fucking hate these things now.

>can't generate power when wind isn't blowing quite fast enough
>can't generate power when wind isn't blowing quite slow enough
>gearbox gets rekt in a few years
>fall apart when wind blows way too hard
>noise and movement fucks with people miles around them.
>kill birds

Windmills are only effective in a handful very, very specific areas (at least in the US) but for some reason they much more widespread than that. There’s no reason to blindly hate them because the gov has decided to put them up everywhere they can even if they are inefficient.

Fucking based leaf, and chequed

Post more windmill hate goyim

Windmills are a solid way to add to our power generation. They're fairly cheap per kilowatt (If installed where they should be) at around $.04/kwh.
However we shouldn't just be placing them all over because of muh carbon tax. They're ineffective except for very specific areas (mainly off shore because winds coming in over the ocean can produce baseline power. does get more expensive to install out there but its worth it).
They kill a buttload of birds which is a problem as well. Less damaging to birds when theyre offshore I believe.
Solar is already better, tidal/wave power has the potential to be way better. We're pretty much at maximum efficiency in wind turbine designs. They're not great but generate cheap clean power if done correctly.

t. environmental scientist

dunno man, I like them

Terrible place to put them

The same scam as the solar industry.

I drive through Indiana a lot and see these fucking things everywhere. Even at night with their synchronized red blinking lights as far as the eye can see.

One of the few sane opinions. Come to california.

you do know we kill animals for fun, so why can't we do it for energy?

They kill not a small number of birds and bats. This has consequences for the environment, pest control and hunting on down the food chain. They're also a bitch and a half to service. They lose some number of employees every year and that's with them being barely used still.

>There’s no reason to blindly hate them
Good thing no one is doing that.

Cost more to produce than will generate in any reasonable amount of time.
Not renewable since they use non-renewable resources to create, let alone the industrial waste created at the industrial park where they were created.
You don't get anything for free, eventually we will have to have entire miles of these things to run a small town. Let alone a big city.

It's a meme, like all green energy.

> state gibs for windmills
This. Same thing here in Germany. Lot's of state gibs going into this shit (and solar panels). Electricity prices are through the roof. At the same time we build more coal plants to replace the base load capacity we lose as we turn off our nuclear plants.

Just another one of these suicidal, anti progress, anti civilization things the left likes so much. And as a weapon against civilization and progress it's scarily effective:

1) It keeps lots of engineering talent busy with useless make-work that will never lead to any real progress.
2) It ties up a lot of money that could otherwise be used for useful stuff.
3) It generally increases the price of getting things done (pretty much anything requires electricity). And that's hefty (compare Germany and Hungary - it's a factor of 3)
4) It depends on state funding, thus giving the state an excuse to raise taxes.
5) It destabilizes the Power grid, sometimes causing blackouts and brownouts. Gets people used to the idea of "electricity is a privilege, not a right"
6) It is a handy device for destroying the independence the internal combustion engine gives people ("We need to force everyone to buy electric cars so we can use them for storing some of our unreliable energy"). No more hoarding barrels of fuel for bad times or preventing centralized infrastructure from leaving you stranded any time they chose ("People in this area are getting a bit uppity, let's just drain their batteries").

wind power is an enormous scam and electricity rate payers and tax-payers are footing the bill for it all.

unless they're putting them on land you own, fuck off

Useless as shit, and for some reason we're getting 51% of our power from it when a couple of nuclear power plants could do that instead.

In Texas, we have a ton. We also have some of the strongest winds in the country. We also have a deregulated market that prices power by the minute so baseload plants make money if there is shitty wind. So, even without the federal subsidies, they would make money.

Anyone have any red pills to pass out about geothermal or hydro power?

[citation needed] on that last part plz

giant theft of tax payer money

every time I see one I spit

I like windmils. They add a modern touch to the landscapes. Landscapes are boring anyways. "Oh it's some mountains, look a hill, some trees." whoopty fucking doo

lmao dumbasses

They are only sustainable if they're getting govt subsidies. If you want case study of how pursuit of "green" energy ends look at Germany. After Fukushima they've started closing their nuclear reactors and going full "green". In late 2016 they've quietly started to turn on 100+ years old coal power plants because they couldn't subside the energy more than they've already did and the prices started growing like mad.

Fake tech to assuage junk climate science. Democrat crony Marxist-capitalism at its best .

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You forgot about the ontario gov selling clean hydro electricity from Niagara at a loss to increase demand for the ridiculously priced wind farms and solar, in an attempt to justify their existence. My electricity bill has tripled in the last 8 years because of this shit.
ep.probeinternational.org/2016/09/20/ontario-electricity-customers-have-paid-more-than-6-billion-to-dump-surplus-high-priced-power-study/
thestar.com/news/queenspark/2014/01/20/ontario_paid_1_billion_to_dump_excess_electricity_in_2013_ndp.html
beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/pcs-accuse-ontario-liberals-of-giving-away-millions-in-excess-electricity/article33242297/
How this hasn't brought down the (((government))) I couldn't tell you

>They add a modern touch to the landscapes
Like the constant hum, or the gas generating station running in the background to balance the load during peak and off peak times?

if we can figure out a way to establish bag limits and lotteries for the windmills we can

it is commonly known that jews are disgusted with the purity of nature, and that is the one thing that they can not control effectively. natures beauty is also a stark contrast to their appearance, jews usually being ugly, blemished creatures with short stature plagued with health issues.

so, yes, jews want to destroy this world simply because nature is pure and beautiful, and they are not.

>it is commonly known that jews are disgusted with the purity of nature
pic related

Like other people have said, there are some locations where they actually make sense. Putting them where they don't make sense is like building a hydroelectric dam where there is no water

Yes, if you look up a list of the largest capacity power plants you will find two lists. One for conventional/nuclear sources, and one for hydroelectric. The largest nuclear plant has a fraction of the capacity of the 5th largest hydroelectric dam, and practically all the misconceptions about renewable energy being viable comes from the fact that hydroelectric is.

Geothermal power is also viable as a renewable source but I've read it also generates huge clouds of terrible smelling gases and isn't really suitable to be used in populated areas

White conservatives aren't famous for their conservation efforts either.

Is it possible to get any substantive representation in my state legislature to fuck off this nonsense? I live in OK btw and my state government is retarded af

These really fucking grind my gears and I would really like to start a lobby or something to tell them to fuck off this shit

Dr. Kaczynski would be appalled with these awful things. The Jews also use them to distract drivers and cause deadly accidents. It's difficult not to fixate on these creepy, ghastly, swirling machines.

Great explanation. There's no one technology that could provide the whole world with power, it'll come down to a combination of techs in their optimal locations (Tidal, wind, solar, geothermal, etc). I'm no tree-hugger, but eventually we're going to run out of fossil fuels and we'd better have alternative energy infrastructure in place when it happens.

t. Energy science engineer

> Germany turning coal plants back on.
And not any coal plants either. Lots of lignite plants among these (that's the low grade, extra dirty coal you scrape from open pit mines). And a big plant goes through several freight trains' worth of that in a single day...

I want the nuke plants back, damn it! Energy too cheap to meter, and a lot less dirty than fucking coal. Unfortunately that's not a popular opinion in this shithole.

>but eventually we're going to run out of fossil fuels and we'd better have alternative energy infrastructure in place when it happens.
Yep. We definitely need to get cracking on building new reactors, reprocess spent fuel rods instead of burying them somewhere we cannot even get at them anymore and bootstrap the Thorium fuel cycle to the point where it can sustain itself.

>like to start a lobby or something to tell them to fuck off this shit
People have tried here, but they always get out gunned by the 'green' lobby, i.e the entire government and state broadcasters covering up and shilling by omission. ON has some of the largest nuclear plants in the world, + Niagara falls, every small town also has a small scale damn on the local river, our power should be cheep as fuck. Our government just keeps throwing away money on politically correct projects, people are getting fed up, most of this shit probably will end next election when the 10+ years of liberal are finally voted out because people are finally realizing we are broke as fuck. It takes a unique species of retard to outdo California
>pic related, old I know but it's much worse now