Hey anons. Vegas user here. I spoke with some people I know who work at madalay bay but they didnt give me much information. Here are some important things they told me: 1. All elevators have cameras (confirmed) and the Hallways do not. 2. The security guard was "checking doors" on the floor and not responding to any alarm, the doors dont have monitoring on them. 3. Paddock screwed the door shut from the stairwell side of the emergency exit. Odd... 4. The infamous Strobe on the lower floor was said to have been placed by Paddock and the room was also rented by him, said it was on the 4th floor. 5. Stephen Shuck is a real person and he is a first year apprentice at the 501 union hall, hadnt worked for mgm very long. 6. The people i spoke to have not met the security guard in person. 7. MGM is doing everything in their power to limit lawsuits and Shucks statement had to be "approved" to be released. 8. MGM is basically threatening employees that if they talk to media they are fired. Thats all that comes to mind so far, AMA.
Addition: Security Guards in las vegas that work IN CASINOS DO NOT have to sign up to the PILB. All security guards DO have to sign up for the Nevada gaming commission.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THREAD >The infamous Strobe on the lower floor was said to have been placed by Paddock and the room was also rented by him, said it was on the 4th floor. is there a verifiable source?
>The security guard was "checking doors" on the floor and not responding to any alarm, the doors dont have monitoring on them. I heard it was stairwell leading up to the upper levels which was alarmed and campos was supposedly invesitgating
Sebastian Sanders
Maybe other people can vet this but these are their words exactly as they told me. I honestly didnt even ask them about the strobe but they brought it up. Since the strobe otherwise is non important.
Levi Robinson
>The people i spoke to have not met the security guard in person. did they say if they had ever heard of him or seen him before the event?
Julian Gray
I asked them about both the "alarm" and the "report of drilling" and they said he was "just on the floor checking doors." "they dont have alarms on the doors" I asked him this specifically because at my property we do not have alarms on stairwells nor any sort of monitoring on the actual room doors. They are just magnetic card readers that actuate a deadbolt.
Jose Torres
He rented a room and put up a strobe light just to fuel internet speculation of a second shooter after his death. Madman.
Angel Martinez
they mentioned they would not know because they do not work that specific shift that Campos and the other employees work on.
Jaxon Cruz
Idk. I know a woman who was there and she said it was chopper strobes
Lincoln Reed
the person i spoke with seriously implied it was some sort of diversionary technique. I will not believe this until we can vet the info though.
Jackson James
>3. Paddock screwed the door shut from the stairwell side of the emergency exit. Odd... >4. The infamous Strobe on the lower floor was said to have been placed by Paddock and the room was also rented by him, said it was on the 4th floor.
Both of these are quite suspicious.
So he screwed the emergency exit door shut, walked down to 31st floor (or even all the way to the ground floor if MB gives a fuck about security and has emergency exit doors that only operate from one side) then came back up with the elevator?
I know they claim he was so smart, but thinking that far ahead to rent another room on a floor so many stories lower and having a strobe light in there seems like a bit of a stretch, doesn't it?
Owen Martin
I heard that paddock had the assistance of a belhop when riding the service elevator up with his 10 suitcases. Did anyone mention anything about this or possibly knowing the bellhop?
Hudson Allen
So what if the internet discovers what really happened? I don't think there is anything people can do about it.
Colton Hill
this is plausible speculation, maybe trying to make people think the gunshots were coming from room that ws flashing?
Ryder Taylor
There is something we can do. sic semper tyrannus
Jeremiah Brown
I did not ask about this, I was only concerned that cameras exist that would capture him going to and from that floor. Bellhops taking luggage to rooms is very common. People drop luggage off at valet and the bell hops load all the shit on a cart and take it to the room. The bellhop might have helped him unknowingly like Eric implied. Not ruling out help from him tho.
Thomas Diaz
If you had assume this as fact, i would conclude that he wanted to make the whole corridor leading to his end suite a " kill hallway ". This logic fails when you consider that swat would just come up the stairway and break the blockage off the door /unscrew it (apparently he screwed something into the door threshold).
Josiah Torres
>The bellhop might have helped him unknowingly this is what I was thinking >MGM is basically threatening employees that if they talk to media they are fired. its a shame businesses are able to do this. But while you are an employee they can dictate what you are able to say about work. also, there may be some gag order.
Did anyone mention anything that they thought particularly strange? >Paddock screwed the door shut from the stairwell side of the emergency exit also im very interested about this. Did a reliable source tell you this?
Robert Gutierrez
What about the doors between rooms?
Supposedly the door to 134 was locked and SWAT had to blow it open.
Does MB have dual-doors between this suite where you can lock either door only from the side you are on? That would imply he went outside of the room to go from 134 back to 135 where he killed himself. It also means he must have run into either the maintanence guy or the security guy that were on the floor during the shooting, why didn't he kill them?
Aiden Young
You have to understand these hallways in hotels are verry narrow or confined. They are like 5 feet in width i kid you not. Different hotels different dimensions but yeah they arent wide. You could funnel all the LEOs coming to your suite into that hallway and mow them down. This is my best guess.
Brandon Ortiz
is this even possible from his side of the door? Im assuming he would have to enter the stairwell, screw it in place from the inside, walk to another floor, and return to his room?
Levi Harris
They are a current employee of Mandalay bay thats about all I can tell you. I am not friends or close with this person but we associate and these people have been in my field of work for awhile, long then me actually. I want to trust him but after all the LARPing on Sup Forums I hardly believe anything 100% anymore.
Jaxson Bailey
i mean not if you are planning to not get caught. everybody thought it was muzzle flash at first on every video, so it could have worked
if campos didn't go and kill him last minute to make himself look good
Charles Wilson
Lets push for them to release video.
Citizens right to know what happened.
Are they going to do a 9/11 and only let the victims see the video? Pshh
Grayson Campbell
maybe a white house petition? they don't seem to ever come of anything though.. that i know of
Lucas Reed
That is a question I did not ask but will next time I see them. I did ask how a guard could take cover from 200 fucking bullets and only get shot in the leg. They (loosely worded here ) implied that there was a cove or alcove adjacent to the door that the security guards immediately went to. They also said that he was trying to get into room 133/135 to save his ass. I need to ask more clarity on this.
They did a good job bluffing their way through another week. Next week will be even easier as less press care.
Landon Perez
Well depending on the hotel, some hotels lock their egress doors and some do not. Its a matter of policy really as some maids and maint. use the stairwells for convenience. I would assume that the upper/lower floor was unlocked or else he would have followed the egress all the way to he it exited the building. Surely cameras would have caught this. All egresses are monitored to prevent break ins (cameras.)
Cameron Sullivan
CIA covered this one up pretty gud. Nothing will leak.
Xavier Morris
Dude, if we could schedule a protest or demonstration I would take the day off and help fund to make signs. I want the god damn truth. I went to three outdoor concerts in the past two years. It could have been me. Fuck Law enforcement and the FBI. They are literally saying I do not have the right to know why my community was attacked. This is grounds for rebellion.
Asher Richardson
Until proven otherwise, I gotta say they won.
Aaron Turner
Did your friend tell you that the rest of paddock's and Campos's team are all still on the loose? The twenty something guns were supposed to go the other members. They were all gonna start shooting at the same time. Either all from the same room or possibly different rooms.
Hunter Barnes
This they also aren't telling you about the rest of their crew.
Parker Howard
They won't do another one I bet. This was the last one. He didn't even let reporters ask anything this time. They are almost done sweeping this totally under the rug for good.
I like the Sheriff, I feel bad for him, but I think the end of that briefing was more for guilt tripping people for thinking the authorities are lying. He didn't mention the LVMPD off-duty officer who was killed at the concert
Brody Richardson
13 neck tattoo >vanished
Cooper Campbell
As would I
Connor Hernandez
I know there are two breaches, but that is what supports the two shooters narrative IF these doors are doubledoors as I think they would be.
No way one guy can lock the door on the side of 134 and kill himself in 135 without ever entering the hallway where both Campos and the maintenance guy would have to be waiting for a bullet in their heads.
Although this would be very incriminating for Campos I'm not sure it will ever get any attention since he's already the hero and got an award.
Blake Garcia
inb4 shills brigade you saying it's flaps of skin and other rediculous shit
Logan Smith
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Easton Reed
How do security guard and maintenance man end up at the same time in the same place just right! Something else happened that they are hiding from us.
Joseph James
He kinda looks like Harvey Weinstein.
John Robinson
I dont think any employees of the hotel would know that besides the ones with camera footage access. I can tell you the people I spoke with said specifically that the only the police and fbi have been allowed on that floor and that it is still off limits with LEOs there. I asked them if Campos was in the room and they said no only police and fbi were allowed up there, perhaps the head of security as well. But since like they said nobody was allowed in the room, how would my source know this info. Im concluding this is the word going around the proeperty.
Ryder White
Great work guys. I eagerly await new developments from Sup Forums's esteemed investagionators.
Luke Price
Merely linked the times for reference and others to see.
At this point, the entire world is under CIA/NSA surveillance, feeding the FBI on everything there is to know or be heard about. In turn this knowledge is taken into account by subverting journalists and the like from even entertaining the idea of credible investigation.
It's sad times we live in, user. All we can do is try to dig for proof for our own autistic fulfillment, but most of us don't have the resources that would be needed to do anything credible in a scenario like this one.
We know the truth, yet we don't at the same time. What the fuck can even be done at this point is unknown to anyone, we're all digging for anything while blatantly seeing and even hearing the obvious
Cooper Watson
What about Crowds on Demand posting an acting ad on craigslist before the event.
really gotta get a time stamp on things like this but i dont think you can on craigs list right?
Anthony Thomas
chopper strobes? pun?
Jason Gomez
Anons give me questions to ask my sources and I will ask them. It will take a few days as I only see them every now and then though.
Christian Rodriguez
meh, that may be the case, but let's assume there was live shots being fired, no matter if anyone actually died or not, it is more relevant to be looked into than some staged event.
Isaac Cooper
ask about the doubledoors please, it would make Campos narrative harder to keep fucking with.
Jaxson Thompson
I cannot believe veritas hasnt gone undercover for this shit.... Where are all the low profile journos out there? Help us out!
Lincoln Parker
what about the double doors?
Ian Barnes
Ther was shots and people shot back this it's las vegas after all, people that shot didn't wanted to be linked considering how open the investigating is at this point, therefore never notified, I'm fairly sure that the broken glasses for example were done by a random bypasser.
Hotels I know of with connecting rooms have two doors between them. Each one can only be locked from one side, see my post there .
If there were double doors between the two rooms, paddock would have had to leave 134 through the hallway in order to shoot himself in 135. In that case, why didn't he shoot either Campos nor the maint guy?
IF rooms are connected they are always separated by two seperate (usually sliding) doors. You have to unlock each from each side to actually walk through them. He could have easily prepared this so I dont know what the point of the focus is on this. Feds say he rented both rooms.
Ryder Clark
People actually died dude. There families lost people and they aren't coming. I'd say the hardest part of a false flag would be actors. insanely hard to actually pull off successfully.
Luis Wood
If they had tin reach from 135 to get into 134 that means that the door was locked on the 134 side. Who do you think locked the door? Maybe "Campos" then he popped his head out of the door when the maintenance man came down the hall.
Hunter Cook
apparently yandex failed me. gee-whiz sorry pal
Joshua Garcia
But how does he leave 134 through the hallway and not shoot at our two heroes?
Since he was planning on getting away having witnesses would not be a good idea.
Kevin Lewis
Can anyone give me a brief rundown of the current situation? The (((((media)))) in my country doesn't mention this story at all anymore
This is not about the hallway though, it's about the doors connecting the two rooms.
Ethan Cook
The police narrative is so sketchy i need to go a rewatch it, so im not sure what they are claiming at this point (change the story every time). They are saying he ran outside 134 into the hallway to get in his suite 135?
Samuel Gomez
also it's a pic of a youtube, check it out if you want. you're missing the point, he screwed the doors shut in the hallway supposedly, how do you do that with double door that seperate when you open them? it'd be relatively easy to use the weight of the doors to rip the screws out, imo
Colton Taylor
as far as i understand, he only screwed shut the doors to the staircase, which are probably different to the room doors.
Here is a link to an img which has the double doors I'm talking about.
You guys are retarded. They are saying the stairwell exit door was screwed shut and the adjoining room door was locked on the 134 side. Maybe you're not retarded but shills trying to slide.
Hudson Torres
Yes only the emergency stair case, he didnt screw his own bedroom doors closed, as far as we know.
Colton Brown
Loose lips sink ships. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. The amount of loose information is bound to be extremely limited.
Ryan Hill
That makes a lot of sense.
Ian Edwards
yes, this
Gavin White
YES, how can we start making this happen?
Jason Jackson
He was a cheapskate. He brought his own booze to gamble. Doubt he would want to tip a bellhop.
Jose Walker
The only people that know the truth are LVPD, FBI, and possibly the head of security at mandalay bay. Other than that, personal accounts from people on that floor, media, and the feds are all we have to go off of. I dont think well ever figure this out without substantial help, but I think if we start some protests we can put the pressure on them and make them slip up. They need to be afraid of the people of this city and it makes me sick how apathetic these fucking people are. Two weeks and its back to business.
Tyler Harris
twitter storm veritas? start a chan movement? donate to veritas and write a letter? I saw someone actually got a personal response for a donation. Dont assume im shilling veritas btw idgaf.
Daniel Carter
Yeah man and theres a HUGE risk letting some random handle your 23 fucking guns in bags. Doesnt add up.
Carter Gutierrez
Could you please post this a third time but at an even lower fucking resolution?
Sebastian Wilson
Las Vegas Police BLOCK REPORTERS (Laura Loomer & Mike Tokes) From Entering Press Conference on Botched Mass Shooting Investigation
They are not saying it as of now, but if we can get proof that he could not have locked 134 from the side of 135, there is proof he would have had to leave into the hallway AFTER starting to shoot at the crowd (or he never shot from 134, then why are windows broken in there?)
Since Campos supposedly met him BEFORE starting to shoot (no longer 6min, now only 1 or 2 min before) why did Paddock not shoot him after he already shot 200 rounds through 135? Obviously he didn't like Campos being there, so when he sees him not being dead, he should have offed him.
Brayden Collins
Paddock room was to tank and aggro police while secondary shooters in different locations laid down dps on crowds
Nolan Phillips
You do know casinos give out free alcohol don't you?
Matthew Stewart
Today someone found the sun wrote a piece about how the sheriff is pro gun control. I bet hes a democrat also. Look it up. Fucking creeky voiced snake. I find this heavily concerning.
Oliver Flores
Private biz there is no way short of a court order. What about publicly held companies?
Brayden Perez
Does "checking doors" mean looking for unlocked doors that might have cash or valuables lying around behind them?
Isaiah Davis
i posted a pic of the hallway that shows double doors and it doubles as a video if you google it..
Austin Long
lmao this actually makes sense. If it is true he blocked the door from the stairwell side, then the only scenario that makes sense is he was going to mow all the officers down in that narrow corridor. Man imagine how many he could have killed. Perhaps he was prepared for it with that gas mask and tube he had. Idk thats all speculation on my part.
Ayden Hughes
do you remember from 2016 was he for the failed Bloomberg gun law that passed but is unenforceable?
Benjamin Hughes
Let me guess. His healer was oom and brez was on CD?
/lol
Josiah Gutierrez
He didn't like to tip servers you stupid faggot.
Cameron Morgan
>i.ytimg.com/vi/_eYrqgCGWx4/maxresdefault.jpg this is the door to the suite not the god damn egress stairwell for the 3rd time. HE SECURED THE STAIRWELL DOOR OK I AM NOT SUGGESTING HE SCREWED HIS SUITE DOORS. Im not replying to any more door posts
Gavin Watson
Well, maybe not if you're with the bellman on the way up. And i don't think Paddock brought the entire arsenal up in one trip anyway.
Leo Evans
Just PLEASE ask if the doors were something like this. That's all I want to know.
If not, what type is it and can it be locked from either side?
Michael Walker
he declined one way or the other on this gun background check law last year while most Nevada Sheriffs were against it. inconclusive
