Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

How does it compare to other shows of the same genre?

Does it stack up to newer stuff?

What do you think of First Assault Online?

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It's easily the best cyberpunk series anime has.

>Psycho Pass

I think it's still better than a lot of shit that comes out now like, generic Moetrash.

FAO is pretty good for a free game, I wished they would focus more on hacking and tech rather than the combat.

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Recently watched the movies and tried to get into SAC, but the difference in style was way too jarring.

1st gig is pretty good, but rough around the edges in some ways.

2nd gig builds it's story really well, but otherwise I can't quite put my finger on what I like about it so much. It has a good ambience to it. And great music.

I just couldn't come to enjoy SAC 1st GIG, so I didn't continue watching it.
Even though I thought the original movie to be much better than SAC, I'd say it's still pretty good for what it is.

i just finished stand alone comple the first (and standalone 2nd gig ep 26 by accident)

is the major a man?
or like a mans brain in a sexy body?
batou kinda gave my that vibe when they were getting the major a new body

One question I keep asking is: Why did they have to give the tachikomas cute voices?

They're machines built to serve Section 9, for crying out loud!

Tell me about it. I'm still not used to SAC Motoko.

She can be which ever one she wants

>is the major a man?
What even gave you that idea. No in 2nd gig it's outright stated she was a girl before she got her cybernetic body

So that they seem less scary to civilians.

what would they give it?
a generic "beep boop i am a robot" voice?
it was made in japan man

She is, from what I understood, a digitalized soul inside a robot body.
Traditional gender roles seem to mean less and less when you can change your body as needed with the help of engineers.

Yes. That would even mean adding a penis to Kusunagi's female body.

A manly "Sir, yes Sir!"
Or something else that inspires respect and fear.
That cute voice only makes me want to pat it on the head.

good

idk i thought batou was all bummed out when she was getting the sexy body and that maybe he was starting to be confused by his feelings
>Traditional gender roles seem to mean less and less

thats what im sayin, if its a cyborg and it doesnt matter, id have a sexy ass major body even if i used to be a hardass old man

and it seemed like he didnt want the sexy ass body,
i also dont speak moon so i dont know if its a japanese surname for a man or not

I'd be lying if I didn't say I'd swap bodies if I was a cyborg just to do pervy shit and touch myself.

>Be a cyborg
>Change into a female body
>Go on a nude streak and scare people
>Disappear and swap back to your old body

The possibilities are endless!

Way better than the movies. Struck a good balance between Shirow's wacky, zany philosophy/action manga and Oshii's masturbatory talkfest. The Major actually had a personality.

The Major's red eyes get me

i think they did that in earlier episodes of the season, so i figured why not the major

Who's the third from the left? Is that from the manga?

>And great music.
Damn right.

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No clue. I just found it on google images.

Is second from right Solid State Society Major?

Man-Machine Interface Motoko.

I still think the Arise Opening is top quality

One of my faves. Shame the singer died a while back.

2nd GiG


You kiddin' me? I love those 'ghost' whispers.

Ah, thanks

watched sac 1st gig+2nd gig plus the movie
and the 1995 movie and sequal so i know i want to watch the rest,

the 10 episode anime arise series or the 4 movie arise series?

Watch all 4 Borders then episodes 9 and 10 of the anime, then watch The New Movie to finish it off.

The anime is just all the movies chopped into a TV format and then two extra episodes that basically make another movie.

how did you like arise?,was it better or worse than SAC

I went in expecting a show so bad that it is a personal affront to the series because that's what I heard about it, however I actually liked it a lot. It's not as good as SAC in my opinion but it's by no means bad. Just different. Also keep in mind that it's set in its own timeline so SAC stuff doesn't apply in Arise, and thus character's backstories are different.

Have fun user.

I' feel like watching Stand Alone Complex is kinda like drinking a morning coffee. It just has this whole vibe to it like that for me. It really made you feel switched on and it was like brain porn but it was never complicated thought , I guess they just got the atmosphere right it was great.

I agree user. It's got a really comfy feel to it for some reason and I love it, it's so calming and fun to watch all those great characters just doing happy detective adventures.

This. Literally every criticism I've seen was people not getting the point The show isn't a moral dilemna of automating the police for fuck sake you idiots, or they point out "plot holes," which just shows how they weren't actually paying attention.

I don't think I've ever seen an Anime character that has such a strong head screwed on type personality like Motoko's and the ending song they knew what they were doing and they knew perfectly how to set the tone.

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SHE'S A COLD HUMAN

>it's set in its own timeline so SAC stuff doesn't apply in Arise, and thus character's backstories are different.

what the fuck

p sure shes so cold and human

I wouldn't say completely cold she's just seen some shit and knows how to deal with it. I never got any nasty vibe from her just that she's reserved most of the time but you can see there's a lot more going on underneath.

>I wouldn't say completely cold she's just seen some shit and knows how to deal with it. I never got any nasty vibe from her just that she's reserved most of the time but you can see there's a lot more going on underneath.

To add to what I was saying above , I think I know exactly how to describe her now. She's like the female version of Sold Snake in MGS1 but a little more reserved , not that Snake isn't reserved.

Yeah the timelines are weird. There's 4 and each are independent of the others. There's the Manga one, the Movie one with GitS1 and Innocence, there's the SAC timeline, and Arise it its own thing.

pretty spot on senpai

1st GiG or 2nd GiG? I prefer 2nd probably but they're both amazing.

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A classic. I enjoyed both season but I enjoyed the individual eleven because less things were repeated. That isn't to say that the laughing man wasn't fantastic in its own right.

I love learning while watching anime and I loved the production as well.

I really liked the first season. Wasn't really captivated by the second though. SSS movie was meh.

I like it, desu. Let's you explore the characters from more angles without having to worry about keeping track of the plot (both the audience and the writers)

I hate the character designs

>arise
They sexualised the Major, but did it fairly tastefully. They could've gone full explore the effects of transhumanism on sexuality and gender but that's not really anime's jam and it was partly just fan service anyway.

Arise has such a shit art style it puts me off on that alone.

Arise is hot garbage.

This. SAC has fucking great production, visual design, and world building. But PP has great everything.

>Psycho Pass
It was pretty bad but it'll probably be a great meme for hipster faggots to throw around. It's not like that many care enough about it to watch or finish it so so you can claim a lot of bs about it.

Objectively wrong. The artstyle is just a more cleaned up and brighter palette of SAC's. Both are great.

2nd gig had better individual episodes
1st had the better overarching story

never liked individual eleven

Can you clarify what was the point of the show in your interpretation?

Did you quote the wrong person? I never mentioned Arise in my post about Psycho-Pass. You're wrong anyway, the design sense of Arise isn't just "more cleaned up and brighter", it loses all the sense of striking originality and cyber noir aesthetic that made SAC so distinct and clearly futuristic. If you showed me any scene from Arise and told me it took place in modern day Tokyo, I'd have a 50% chance of believing you. Whereas, there's absolutely no mistaking that all the scenes in SAc take place in the future.

Yeah I got the wrong two posts, my bad. I still think Arise looks great but I can see where you'd have an issue with the immersion of the show's world. However it does take place in like 2024 or something, I think it looks futuristic enough.

I wrote some analysis, and I've seen a lot of other good analysis works so I might just make a big Psycho-Pass purpose thread later in the future.

Arise takes place in 2027, SAC in 2030. Immersion isn't really the issue, I definitely don't realistically expect the world to look like SAC does by 2030. But even if it doesn't look realistic, SAC's world oozes originality and style. When I first saw the series about 10 years ago, I was fucking blown away by just how different and creative its setting was. Everything from the buildings to the vehicles to the weapons to people's clothing accessories are stylised in such a way that they look both futuristic and cool. Arise just doesn't capture the same feeling. If I saw Arise 10 years ago instead of SAC, I doubt I would have become interested in the franchise much at all.

No anime in the "same genre" has ever gotten near SAC.

SAC is unique, it's totally distinct in its tone, and when discussed in the context of the cyberpunk genre it should be considered genre-defining alongside Blade Runner and Neuromancer.

While not "genre-defining" as the user above describes, I just finished Ergo Proxy and it was pretty solid. Not the same feel as SAC but I liked the darker tone of it.

I think it was to remind the squad that their learning patterns were based on child-level intellects.

Alternatively, maybe the team kept trashing the earlier models, so the designers made it sound like a child to make them care about it.

I actually really like that second idea, that's kind of hilarious

I fuckin' love GiTS, but I'm kind of unsure how I feel about Arise overall. For the time I was watching it, it wasn't bad at all, enjoyable to say the least. Once the series wrapped up, I felt as if something was missing from the experience that I got from the other incarnations prior. Dunno what it is, though.

The Appleseed and GITS manga will never get a continuation from Shirow.He's forever resigned to drawing naked greasy gel women porn for our lifetime.

2nd gig is near flawless and better than 1st gig in every way

>1st had the better overarching story
Not even half of the series was related to the laughing man, it had tons of more filler than 2nd gig

I heard that so I went to check out his stuff and all I saw was hundreds of nigger cuck hentai drawings. I'm still really salty about the life he chose.

I liked the 1st GiG's side stories better, they were nice little detective adventures but 2nd GiG's were more serious and just felt different. Not bad, but different.

"Poker Face" is one of my favorite eps of any anime series period

I loved that episode, shame they retconned the whole thing in Arise

I wouldn't really call it a retconn when it's a different continuity.

I put 2nd gig on hold around episode 5 a year or two back. I loved the first season but couldn't get into the 2nd for some reason, I should give it another shot.