I want to hear what people honestly think and feel about the disabled...

I want to hear what people honestly think and feel about the disabled, whether in broad terms in a sociological perspective, what are their rights, should society change to accomadate a minority, or on an individual level, do they make you uncomfortable, would you befriend or date a disabled person? Do you hate how i drive my mobility scooter (sry but you shouldn't wear sandels at a crowded event).

I'm 26, in a wheelchair, sometimes a scooter. I want to get more involved in disability activism, so I want to understand how we're percieved.

I didn't become disabled until 20. Until then I really didn't think about disabled people. Sometimes in public I'd try not to stare, but I was anxious and did that with all minorities.

I'm pretty flabberghasted at the shit people say to me, like strangers who out of the blue ask "what's wrong with you?"

The other day this chick came up to me and started talking to me about how she works with special needs kids. I just stared at her and said "Ok?"

Another lady looked me up and down and said "Well don't you look nice, did you pick out that outfit all by yourself?"

:|

then there's shit like functioning leg people using disabled stalls and not moving over in elevators. Or people bitching that my disability gets accomadation or "benefits"

When I was able bodied, this behaviour was abhorent to me. So i cannot understand how these people think, and you can't approach an issue without first understanding all perspectives.

I work in architecture and I always promote disability access in any design, even if it is not needed. I'll always help someone out struggling if need. They're cool but I see the issue with babying them too much.

My mum thinks you people should be chopped up an sold for parts.

>leg people using our bathrooms!
lol yeah because they can't hold they shit any easier than you can.

>benefits
you should be getting all the benefits in the world, provided by your loving family and employees. not by me :( but I'll hold a door open for you once in a while

>condescending people
maybe accept that those cunty people are cunts to literally everyone and not just "no leg people" like you!

That's awesome, and I really appreciate it. Access is definately my major hurdle. What do you mean by babying?

Nature freaks should be euthanized, im not talking about people missing an arm or a leg, or even autists because those have their uses, but the retarded and the heavily deformed
Letting them live and promoting them as brave and to be inclusive makes society weak
Its the same as benefiting women over men in the judicial system, it makes men pathetic
Im a firm believer that bullying in schools should also be accepted, least to the point where it becomes overly abusive, I was bullied heavily all through middle school and early highschool and it really helped me, I grew a pair and made sure I wasnt bothered

the issue with bathrooms, is that usually there's only one handicapped stall. You can use any of the stalls, but you choose the ONLY one i can use, so i have to wait for you to finish even though there's 5 other empty stalls. Plus people use them for stupid shit like girls going in together, or changing clothes.

benefits as in boarding a plane first, or special seating in a theatre.

and i have legs fyi.

I'm an epileptic. I'm not having kids for the sake of the human race.

Otherwise I like many, but not most, aspects of the ADA. I thinking having a legal mandate against online business is absurd and any non-essential service shouldn't be required to uphold certain aspects.


My epilepsy is triggered by not getting enough sleep. If someone's being a fucking dick and they are lucky enough to have a strobe/flickering light going, I chew them the fuck out and they basically shit themselves and start crying. God that's fun lmoa

what do you mean by heavily deformed? Heavily deformed people and "nature freaks" (i'm guessing you mean genetic disease) can and often contribute to society, Stephen Hawking. Did you mean sterilized so they can't reproduce, not euthenize?

I agree touting them for being brave just for being disabled is incredibly patronizing.

However with inclusvity, that means disabled people can do more things to contribute to society, like go to school and work, instead of being homebound and dependant on others.

I agree with the bullying thing. I was bullied, I bullied, sometimes it was one sided, usually not. It's called conflict, which kids need to learn to deal with. Also, shaming has been a part of socialization since the dawn of man. It's how individuals learn what is and isn't acceptable social behavior.

If you wear a cape to school, or show people a dead bird in a ziplock bag, you need to be bullied a little.

Or if you really like that cape, get thicker skin.

My disease is genetic, I'm not reproducing either. I flipped on my sister for getting knocked up before getting tested.

I can be super confrontational in public. I wish more of us were.

I REALLY hate this movement that says "disabled people aren't wrong, they're DIFFERENTLY ABLED"

No bitch, i'm DISabled, i don't have abilities others do not have like extra tentacle legs, i have LESS abilities, pls fix me.

If there is no disabled person in the bathroom, do you really expect someone to not use the stall? You can wait like everyone else.

I would gas you.

Sup Forums loves the disabled. Just look at the potus.

Siddown, junior.

Literally the only people who should be getting public assistance are disabled people.

I treat them like shit because I was rejected by a girl with cerebral palsy

if you want to talk eugenics, there's many things besides physical disability that we should breed out of our species.

mental illness, shitty personality, healthy but weak, not retarded but stupid, unnattracted.

A disabled person could be a genius, gorgeous, creative, just an awesome person. Genes and the way environment shapes a person is hella complicated.

And, i believe if someone is lacking in one area, like physical ability, they spend more energy on other areas, like intelligence, humor, or even looks.

Disability doesn't actually exist. It's all in the head.

Only mentally disabled people are a problem. People with physically disabilities deserve accommodation, the mind is more important than the body in the modern age anyway.

>The other day this chick came up to me and started talking to me about how she works with special needs kids. I just stared at her and said "Ok?"
she probably was willing to date you

befriend yes, date no.

i dont care if you drive over my foot if you're not at home making shitting in a bag making your family miserable that's pretty cool.

People who say the fucked up stuff are the people in all of our lives that we roll our eyes at because they always say the unbelievable things.

The people who use disabled bathrooms dont all need no legs. Some people have angry intestine disease, some wear diapers, some have poo bags. There are a lot of legit reasons people need that bathroom. I have severe mental illness (not a meme I am disabled) and cant use a public bathroom a single unit bathroom is my only chance to go. I dont use disability bathrooms because I know how it looks though. I ran screaming through a mountain village a month ago cuz no one would let me use their private bathroom in a store because i was going to shit my pantaloons. I ended up crying and causing a scene it wasss humiliating.

society should not give minorities special snowflake rights we are not victims but equal rights are important and we should fight every violation.

If you're interested in the activism side of things, try looking at the technology perspective.

Imagine there were no scooters and no wheelchairs. Now imagine what keeps anyone from throwing you into a shitpile or leaving you on the ground for the wolves to eat in a world like that.

Now imagine, we are not savages anymore, and even though there are no wheels on any chair, there are chairs around that we can sit you on. You weren't born disabled so you had plenty of time to learn practical stuff in your life. Who knows, maybe you were pretty good at knots and since you now have nothing better to do, you are suddenly the town's knotting specialist. Which earns you a family to take care of you while you can contribute to society.

Now imagine you can actually move around without depending on others (with some limitations). That's the biggest improvement by far until now. Because it means you can actually do things with no supervision whatsoever, even if for a select number of hours. You are so close to being independent it might as well be approximated as independence, and therefore you are allowed/required to contribute your fair share to society (as long as others can adapt the environment for you, you might as well be a very productive office worker or a teacher).

So, in a world with enough tech, it would be a non-problem to have disabled people. You don't see rich disabled people too often being thrown away by their family for instance. Heck, in enough time our grandchildren might routinely disable themselves for whatever reason and then "get back up right away" better than before. The basic Gestalt is: what your body can't do, a tool can.

Of course this is a vacuum. In the real world of non-rich people, many still don't realize that "wheelchairs exist" and the disabled can be made useful/independent. That's where activism comes in.

my legs would disagree

Are you sure> My scooter is 160 pounds, with me in it thats 270.

And yeah, there's lots of invisible disabilities. Sometimes i'll say something, but if they say they have a legit reason I apologise.

Everyone should have equal, but with disabilities equal does not mean the same. For example, letting disabled people into your business as customers and employees, doesn't do a whole lot of good if the building doesn't have a ramp.

>then there's shit like functioning leg people using disabled stalls

They aren't legless stalls, genius, they're there for anyone who needs more room to move, a higher toilet seat, the hand grips to get up and down, or whatever.

I used to be highly tolerant of "the disabled" especially since I had severe mobility impairment twice in my life. Now I'm as tired of "the disabled" as of faggotry, feminism, and communists.

I perceive you in a wheelchair or scooter as incredibly lucky that a bunch of people engineered tools and the environment so YOU have it easier. I felt that way when I was impaired and more so when surgery fixed it. I felt grateful and I didn't care what people said or perceived.

You admit you can't get inside others' heads. They can't get inside yours either. That's life.

Overall I'm sick of babying whiners. I respect people who struggle honestly with whatever problems life throws at them. Sometimes I help. But don't try to coerce it. My sense: leftist OR rightist virtue signalling should be met with extrajudicial summary execustion.

no shit, and the opposite of functioning legs is not no legs. It was a joke.

and yeah, no, having a chair doesn't make me feel lucky chairs exist. I feel umlucky that i have one of the rarest diseases in the world.

I have schizophrenia, mania, psychosis, PTSD, RAD, possible schizotypal personality disorder, Bi Polar and ADD. I've made nearly 5 billion dollars for game companies to date, gotten presidents elected, stopped pagan temples from being built, helped bring to light DOD CIA conflicting interests, and even assisted with ideas for the manned mission to Mars with the US Army/NASA. I can't hold a regular job, but I imagine my accomplishments FAR out weigh most peoples here. So you want to kill the mentally ill? If I were a failure like you, I would fear people like me too.

Double trips of truth.

>what people honestly think and feel about the disabled

Mild contempt, that's all.

they deserve every opportunity within reason an abled person has access to
I don't wanna disabled cops, or fireman but working in a bank, or anything non labor i guess
that being said I do genuinely think all buildings should have accommodation for people with actual disabilities that actually have to struggle in their day to day
Not building a separate bathroom so Dan "Tanya" can go look at women shitting

My grandpa used a heavily deformed child from his town to clean the small parts of a big automatic textile machine in his factory. Only that guy with his twisted arms could reach some parts without disassemble the thing.
The guy died pretty young but he was happy because he was useful.

Dont discard so fast some people user

Sounds like a good movie premise

I have no issues with physically disabled people. There's nothing wrong with their mental capacity and (outside of certain aspects of everyday living) can lead normal functioning lives.
I also don't really have a problem with the mentally disabled either, but I DO have a problem with them reproducing and passing on those genes. Of course I'm not talking about those who had brain damage from a traumatic event (my aunt has brain trauma that's left her basically like a 6 year old), that shit just happens. BUT to those who suffer from things like Downs Syndrome or whatever, they shouldn't be encouraged to reproduce. Even then I don't really have a problem with them, I have more of a problem with the parents who decided to have them after finding out their kid was going to be born retarded. Like they're actively putting more of a burden on society at large to take care of their disabled kids. That's like forcing people to pay for a beached whale's bypass or heart surgery because they couldn't put down the fork

people encourage people with downs to reproduce?
I know parents setup like insane 3-4 hour fuck sessions for them but usually theyre pilled and rubbered up

Is your mum Chinese?

Sounds like you at least enjoy life, user. Keep up the good work. Chaos surely turns around you.

Honesty, on Sup Forums?
Disabled people need to have hobbies. They need in social contexts to be able to front-and-center something other than their disability. The discomfort is just having something obvious to focus on, but forbiddingly unapproachable to talk about. So offer something else to talk about.

Please try not to get impatient with people who say dumb stuff. I'm one of those people. I'm preoccupied half the time and have mediocre social skills at the best of times. I got confused way back with the 'is offering to help a disabled person offensive' and have pretty much given up with attempting to socialize with disabled folk since because it's a minefield of social etiquette that I know I will fail.

The "progressive" viewpoint is, if possible, to maximize accomodation/potential for/of disabled people.
On the other end, people argue that these are people that would normally just die or be left behind and it's not worth the extra cost/resource drain just for the sake of humane treatment.

My sister lives in a house where they have several residents that live with them that have severe autism and mental retardation. I went for thanksgiving 2 years ago and it was one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. I was very surprised. They give love and care to people whose own families chained them to a radiator.

how did you become disabled user?

Let me try to dissect this bait.
>I've made nearly 5 billion dollars for game companies to date
I've bought one or several videogames in un specified timeframe where the game industry made 5 billion dollars
>gotten presidents elected
I voted, once or twice.
>stopped pagan temples from being built
I made several comments on Varg's Youtube videos.
>helped bring to light DOD CIA conflicting interests
I made several threads about how the collapse of the WTC was a hologram.
>and even assisted with ideas for the manned mission to Mars with the US Army/NASA.
Pic related.