There's literally no reason not to raise taxes on the wealthy
>b-b-b-but muh wealthy will invest their money And? Isn't the government taxing their money and paying off the national debt also an investment, although this investment is for the country
>b-but muh wealthy worked for their money They inherited it or got their position through getting into a good school, nothing to do with work
>B-b-b-but muh wealthy will leave Unless they go to another U.S territory they will have to convert their money, in order to do that they must sell their USD for another currency. If so whoever buys that currency will obviously use it for buying or investing in America. If the wealthy stayed and spend money in America and if they left but converted their money would be the exact same result.
rich people give poor people jobs. rich people invest in small bsiness. bill gates, steve jobs, oprah. none of these multi billionaires inherited weaptj.
Jayden Gray
wealth*
sage for not knowing economics 101
Carson Thomas
>rich people give poor people jobs Enjoy your ban, I'm having you banned for not knowing basic economics, also your shitpost sucked.
Daniel Gray
It's their money and taking it is theft Taxing is justified, if there is a dire need for certain public services that benefit the whole nation. Playing world police and subsidizing welfare queens is not necessary public service. Thus there is no justification for rising taxes for anyone.
Gavin Foster
You don't think 20 trillion in debt is a reason to tax? LOL
Dominic Taylor
They already pay enough taxes faggot, lower spending.
Isaiah Morales
It’s too late anyways, next crash the FED won’t be able to save us and we are gonna have negative interest rates and/or hyper-inflation
Leo Price
All these responses are well and fine except they miss the point that they mostly miss the meat of the issue. Although I agree with muh theft the real problem with crazy taxation is because it wrecks the economy. Billionaires can only spend so much money on themselves (they literally have more money than they can spend) so you're effectively taxing investments into the actual economy to instead be wasted on being Israel's attack dog and other such nonsense
Evan Price
Because no matter how high you raise them, they wont be paying money to the government for your stupid wasteful welfare programs. They'll get tax write-offs from their business, or donate to a charity slush fund that they or an associate personally benefits from.
Isaiah Thompson
>why one shouldn't rob the 1% to give gibsmedat to the poor oh, I can tell you why: >Multimillionaire pulls away: town gets in trouble >In Hombrechtikon (Switzerland), 20 per cent of the household (CHF -9 millions) have suddenly broken away. The municipality straps the belt more tightly and hopes for newcomers. So much for the 1%. >When a man like him (74-year-old multimillionaire and sports sponsor Andy Rihs, who is one of the 100 richest Swiss) moves away, it does not pass without a trace. >In the budget for the current year the Hombrechtiker financial administration had expected tax revenues of some 29 million Swiss francs. However, the provisional overview showed at the end of August that the estimate of tax revenues, especially those from earlier years, is much too high. Only 20 million francs, or 9 million less than expected, will be received this year. sauce: tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich/region/der-wegzug-eines-multimillionaers-bringt-ein-dorf-ins-schleudern/story/19971563
Chase Williams
Lower taxes and lowering spending = deficit
Taxation is an investment, so if you love investment you should want more taxes. I explain that in my post
>National socialist >Nationalist >Thinks taxing rich to pay off the debt and make the nation strong is not a good idea You aren't a nationalist.
Wyatt Adams
So you think paying off the debt is a bad idea? You think taxing the rich to defend your nation when you're being invaded by a foreign power is bad? You're a traitor.
Joshua Johnson
eat dick faggot
Thomas Brooks
>taxing internal production completely retarded
James Davis
>paying jews for stealing your money Uh no thanks. How about instead of paying that retarded debt we just take over the world, kill all the bankers and de facto nullify the debt. Then outlaw usury forever.
Gabriel Mitchell
It's literally impossible to pay off the debt.
Dominic Harris
Because trickle down economics isn't a meme. The response will be mass layoffs so they can maintain profit margins
Christopher Sullivan
What else are you suppose to tax RETARD?
No it isn't. You just need some disipline
Henry Sanders
>No it isn't. You just need some good old stagnation wew lad
Lincoln Richardson
Friendly reminder that any gop tax plan is a tax cut for the rich even when it's not.
Lincoln Thomas
You're a retard, stagnation doesn't happen if you don't increase the money supply
Yep.
Caleb Morris
>What else are you suppose to tax RETARD? foreign goods and maybe vices
>No it isn't. You just need some disipline No, we need to start canceling debts and telling our creditors to ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.
Ayden Hall
>costing It doesn't cost anyone a penny. Tax cuts don't need to be paid for unless you assume that the government owns everything you earn and anything you keep is just a gift. >There's literally no reason not to raise taxes on the wealthy Taxation is theft. That's reason enough. >paying off the national debt >implying the government will pay its debts >implying the government won't just spend the money on more pork barrel and gibsmedat spending >They inherited it or got their position through getting into a good school, nothing to do with work Doesn't matter how they got it. Unless they stole it, they own it.
Hudson Robinson
So what happens when they don't like how much they're being taxed and leave by using all of their money to get away? What then?
Jackson Brown
>foreign goods Literal protectionism
>no we need to start cancelling debts No we don't. That's dumb
Well they can't really, you can't spend USD in other countries unless those countries, in which case America gets to export more.
Jacob King
no more gibsmedat means revolution baby
Elijah Johnson
and how do you think they got into a good school?oh yes, that is right, work >implying debt is bad our founding fathers wanted us to be in debt you economically illiterate nigger and we didn't have any taxes at all until 20th century, we just had tariffs, but of course you conveniently ignore that fact
Daniel Nelson
Proof?
Adam Baker
Take a class on economics
Jackson Moore
>and we didn't have any taxes at all until 20th century, we just had tariffs, but of course you conveniently ignore that fact Holy shit you're economically illiterate, I'm not even going to bother talking to you
This is the only time I take a left leaning stance. I don't want tax cuts for the rich because it will make them more wealthy or something. That would be just fucking stupid. If they have more money that means they have more money to give when it comes to employment. The reason I don't want tax cuts for the wealthy is because that means a (((KIKE))) will get more money as a result of tax cutting.
Nicholas Roberts
Every country is happy to take USD wtf are you high?
Zachary Lee
Ever heard of an offshore account? People spend money in other countries extremely easily and liberally if they are wealthy. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offshore_bank
Aiden Walker
>A rich person who has his company and production in your nation and is giving ordinary citizens employment and the state revenue via the taxes of the employees is EXACTLY the same as a rich person having made his money on stock market gamebles / manipulations, foreign wars, the collapse of entire nations and insider trading.
>We should not discriminate between these types of wealthy people and introduce high taxes and possible stricter criminal laws on the ones making money purely through destructive/thieving methods.
And this is why democrats are scum. (With a huge chunk of their bedfellow Republicans as well see. Bush dynasty.)
Carson Ross
because wealth doesn't come via w2 you stupid fucking lefty faggot. raising taxes only effects people that play by the rules and don't have the means to set up the various financial constructs necessary to avoid being pillaged by taxation
Dominic Campbell
>Literal protectionism No shit. That's what America was built on.
>That's dumb No it isn't. For instance, take China. China is our enemy. China contains over a billion hostile barbarians who are actively colonizing Africa and every white country. We should not be giving the Chinese any money or goods if we can avoid it, which we absolutely can. We need to erect massive tariffs against Chinese production/shipping, cancel all debt to China, ban foreign aid to China, and expel all "people" of Chinese descent from America. The object is to cripple their economy and privilege our own. Until we start engaging in serious protectionism, America is not a serious country.
Adam Parker
Well then that means the USD has such high demand it doesn't matter if they leave. That money will eventually get back to the US
Employment is bad, unless your making 150K a year as a financial advisor employment is just modern slavery
Yeah, and then they spend it back in the U.S, eventually the money comes back to the U.S
I'm in University and I want to be a investment banker, I consider what i do way more useful than some bourgeois who forces people into wageslavery.
Thomas White
>raise taxes on people with money >people with money leave and move to other nations >no one left to pay for gibs >become failed state
Benjamin Hernandez
The onus is on you to prove why we SHOULD tax the wealthy more than less wealthy people.
Explain what is fair and democratic about charging the rich more in taxation.
Kevin Hall
>you can't spend USD in other countries lol yes you can, and more easily the more dollars you have
Brandon Miller
We really need to start looking for an answer to the liberal question.
Julian Roberts
Because it has been proven that the wealthy just pick up and leave and go somewhere with lower taxes. You retards think that the wealthy lack the resources to move whenever they want. They aren't like the middle or lower class that struggles to make house payments.
They can re-locate tomorrow if they wish.
Logan Rivera
What you are advocating is jingoism and racial hatred. I'm not a fan of China but what your arguing is pure fascism. Tariffs should only be used for political reasons
>people with money leave Good
>no one left to pay for gibs If you don't tax the rich, there won't be anyone to pay for it anyway
Because the rich have more money and need to spend a lesser percentage of it on consumption. They have money leftover to invest, we need to take that money since they aren't using it to sustain themselves. It's not fair because if we tax everyone at 10% they'd be left with a higher percentage afterwards
Well the money will eventually end up in the U.S again
Alexander Thomas
>taxation is an investment
I don't know whether to laugh or scream.
Camden Torres
In addition, not all countries have a limit on it unless it's money being transferred over physically on a public plane. I mean, money laundering can easily make someone transfer their money if they open an "international online startup" and funnel all their money into it, or if they invest in a currency. So what then? What does your plan do if all of the rich leave from taxes? It collapses. You have to keep taxes in a placr that's fair but also productive, or those that rather dislike that idea with money can just leave. Your only argument is that "Y-Yeah, they'll come back eventually! That'll show them!" Citation needed.
Jayden Russell
>Because it has been proven that the wealthy just pick up and leave and go somewhere with lower taxes Good, maybe they should take their money and fuck off
Logan Powell
>I want to be a investment banker If that's true you deserve to be killed.
Jeremiah Barnes
Tell me why we shouldn't equalize the wealth from whites to non whites.
Parker Johnson
So can they leave or can't they? Make up your mind.
Michael Harris
>hurr dur I reported u for annoucing ur sage LOLOlolOOL your're a gigantic tool, and a massive faggot. Congrats!
Grayson Walker
How is the rich receiving a tax cut costing taxpayers money?
Colton Russell
debt to WHO YOU STUPID FUCK. WHO IS GOING TO COME COLLECTING, AND FROM WHOM? FROM YOU AND ME PERSONALLY? FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS WASTE OF SPACE
Liam Bailey
checked. even a Democrat wants you to KYS faggot.
Bentley Cox
>wealthy person
thank you based political cartoonist
Colton Diaz
>Latinx Kill him, then me.
David Lewis
>Glass of champagne >Fistful of money bills >Suit >Necktie with dollar signs on it >Still need to put a sign saying "wealthy person" on the man to point out he is rich
The absolute state of leftard cartoonists
Camden Allen
The problem is that the people who claim to support tax raises on the rich also support mass immigration.
I'd rather we tax the rich a bit less and get fewer social welfare benefits than accept millions of more immigrants.
That extra $500 in welfare the Democrats throw your way is nothing compared to the hyper-inflationary effects immigration causes to vital services and products like healhcare, housing/rent, and education.
Jacob Thomas
>taking money and paying off the debt so your nation has to pay less interest every year isn't an investment I am laughing at you
They can leave but that problem will fix itself when they start spending money in this other country
Shut up
That's racist
No im not giving you a source. USD has value BECUASE America has so many goods and servicees, if people didn't want to buy American goods and services the USD would not have value. The very fact that American money USD has values proves that people want to buy American.
Henry Clark
Go ahead. The world is awash in capital. So much capital is concentrated that only mass inflation can solve the wealth disparity problem.
Jaxon Ortiz
Because taxes are a meme for the government to suck money off the rich and the middle and give to their own interests.
Let them keep their money, nobody else is entitled to it, that's socialist bullshit.
Cooper Campbell
Because that money won't go towards paying down the national debt meaning we have to pay more interest every year
No one is going to collect the debt, but they will ask for interest every year, dumbass
That was me, i changed my flag so people wouldn't just say "democrat Hillary bernie marxist"
Luke Butler
you have to make it abundantly clear so your retarded readers can understand the propaganda fully
Ryder Rivera
Taxes go to the central bank shareholders, not the government.
It's not coincidence most banks lean to the left. You'd think they'd endorse politicians against their own interests?
Jeremiah Jenkins
My dad wears a suit, drinks champagne, deals with lots of money (investment banker) and he is farrrr from 1% tier rich. Today the working class wears suits and ties as well.
Bentley Roberts
>What you are advocating is jingoism and racial hatred. Jingoism implies warmongering; the Chinese do not have the ability to wage war on America.
>Tariffs should only be used for political reasons In a multiracial society, all politics is racial.
>Well the money will eventually end up in the U.S again Assuming that happens, the rich will raise their children abroad and make their fortune in renminbi or Euros or dirhams or riyals, unless we destroy the economies of the countries they would flee to.
Adrian Richardson
>wealthy person Kek, yeah the bills and champagne really didn't convey that. Hou know you're a shitty cartoonist if you have to label like this, Zyklon Ben is the exception that confirms the rule.
Gavin Davis
because you fucks already get plenty of tax gibs and you absolutely do not need more.
Dylan Miller
Use the money to payy off the debt
So paying off the debt making your nation independent is socialist bullshit? HAHA eisenhower would laugh
>Jingoism implies warmongering; the Chinese do not have the ability to wage war on America. It's punishing a foreign people for the actions of their government
>In a multiracial society, all politics is racial. No it isn't. In a society with different hair colors does everything have to be about hair color?
Oliver Hernandez
>a literal historical illiterate fucking kill yourself you autist
Aiden Turner
>thinks you can't spend USD in other countries >calls others economically illiterate
The only possible way you could ever benefit the human race is by becoming an organ donor.
James Williams
My dad looks exactly like that and loves champagne and is far from rich. It was just trying to show
Yet you want to give free money and handouts to the wealthy people. LOL, hypocrite much.
Austin Bennett
>No one is going to collect the debt Then we should stop paying.
Brayden Nguyen
Does he regularly hold a bunch of dollar bills in his hand and does he wear ties with dollar signs on it?
Christian Reed
Holy shit you're literally historically illiterate. That chart shoes exactly why tarriffs are shit, look how little taxes they pay
Joseph Wilson
>They can leave but that problem will fix itself when they start spending money in this other country. What the fuck? That doesn't even make fucking sense, they go live in some place that values them, put their money in an offshore tax haven, and how does that do anything? >Not giving you a source, just trust me goy American currency has also skyrocketed in value because more goods and services are being used here, more jobs, more faith in the currency, and, guess what, more benefits for the wealthy so they invest in American jobs and currency so the trust in it goes up. In your theoretical, taxes go high, they leave, that money leaves the US, it has less faith in it, less jobs and less intrinsic value. How does that make sense?
Austin Ward
>the rich won't leave because of their dollars
Rich people don't keep their wealth in dollars you dumbfag. They have it in assets, usually stock. Thinking they are liquid shows that a retarded teenager you are.
James Thomas
>paying off the debt is good no it's not you fucking economic illiterate, read about why many of our founding fathers wanted us to have debt
Jacob Baker
>rich people invest in small bsiness. And they made it illegal for me to do the same, thing. So fuck em.
Easton Hall
Concentration of wealth is not only terrible for the worker it's extremely dangerous for the nation. As we can see. Taxing income won't touch the people sitting on tens of billions.Taxing wealth through inheritance taxes isn't much of a solution either. There's only one solution. Inflation. Either the government prints money and buys up land/businesses or the government prints money and distributes it to public employees, families, everyone, etc. One country can't go down this path all developed countries will have to do it at the same time.
Tough situation we're in.
Easton Baker
We are Trumps tax plan will effectively raise taxes on all those $150,000 plus households in places like LA County. Also it appears the rich support democrats.
Chase Martinez
So what are we using this money on that isnt some gib program or some shady government funded organization.
Lincoln Powell
My father has spent thirty years of his life to be a medical doctor with a good position. He pays half his income to taxes. That's bullshit and you know it.
Colton Barnes
You are economically illiterate
Well then the economy would crash
He unrionically does when he goes to parties but it's as a joke. The tie was for a joke but he sometimes does wear it when he goes to work.
Nathaniel Fisher
The debt doesn't need to be paid off. It's a made-up problem by the central bank to convince people to pay higher taxes.
The central bank tells us to pay higher taxes or it won't loan to us anymore. They should go fuck themselves. We should nationalize our central banks.
Anthony Fisher
>It's punishing a foreign people for the actions of their government Are you implying there's something wrong with that? What is a nation-state, paintlicker?
>In a society with different hair colors You know very well race is more than skin color. Don't be obtuse.
Adrian Cook
It's immoral you fucking nigger
Matthew Ross
You know that since the start of the thread the US national debt increased more than you'll ever make in a decade? The only way to pay that shit off would be to cut all the retarded social programs and the military spending, without causing a nationwide riot.
Gl hf with that.
www.usdebtclock.org
Jace Hall
You leftists laugh about trickle down economics, the irony of your position is that your tax rate hikes are what trickles down.
William James
>Well then the economy would crash Meh. I have guns and goods, and I want urban retards to die. I don't see the problem.
You assholes are the lowest form of scum. You pretend to want to help people but you're just a lazy piece of shit and so stupid your only imagined solution is "let the government do it no questions asked." Girls think you're a pussy faggot too.
Carson Price
>What the fuck? That doesn't even make fucking sense, they go live in some place that values them, put their money in an offshore tax haven, and how does that do anything? Alright, hold on im going to answer both your statements
>leave, that money leaves the US, it has less faith in it, less jobs and less intrinsic value. How does that make sense? So if money leaves the U.S, print more of it. If money leaves your economy, and you print money to make up for it, you will not cause inflation since the money supply in America stays the same.
You're a retard most rich own assets like property and stocks and bonds, in AMERICAN USD. You're a retarded moron. American property sells on American markets for USD, idiot.
They wanted debts for political reasons, being in debt to england so they wouldn't invade us. You're such an economic illiterate it's not even funny.
Juan Ramirez
You pay for the entire Chinese military and then some. Half a trillion in interest payments are issued by your government every single year. And you say the debt doesn't matter. Before you harp on about how 40% of American debt is owned by Americans. Yes. Countries own the majority, then wallstreet, then multinational corps, and the final 10% are held by individual Americans. The majority of this 10% are held by the super rich in their portfolios.
>mfw a lefty thinks it's such hardship to be poor in the modern day west and proposes communist policies to "help" them
Jace Morales
stop moving the goalposts autist. in post , you said that I was "economically illiterate" because I claimed that the US had no taxes until the 20th century, just tariffs, but then once I proved that my statement was true in , you doubled back on yourself and said that yes, America had only tariffs, but they were shit so it doesn't matter anyways. Stop your self-contradictory, excuse-making bullshit. Pick a position and stick to it.
Alexander Torres
Oh all of a sudden NOW you care about the debt you slimy Jew nigger!
Caleb Gray
What? You do realise the "1%" includes people who makes only 200k before taxes. Plenty of these CEOs, small business owners, fund managers and investors made their money through hardwork. You are probably so economically illiterate you think CEOs are "Capitalists." And not wage earners. I know firm partners and stock brokers who fought their way to the top from the bottom. In fact it was the sharkiness of their poor upbringing that often has propelled them ahead of my own career. All you are attempting to create is a society that insentivizes victimhood over perseverance and the scary thing is it is working. >tl;dr OP is a faggot
Julian Foster
I explained that already many times, paying off the debt
Your father should be lucky he got to be a doctor in the first place and should be paying MORE, its bullshit he only pays half and you know it
Jeremiah Allen
>The debt doesn't need to be paid off Obviously the 20t doesn't need to be paid off, although if you default it will take down wallstreet and your multinationals. The point is you pay half a trillion in interest, almost entirely to foreign countries and massive American corporations.