>best animation of all time
>mediocre stories
How can we fix Kyoto Animation? Should they branch out into different genres?
Who could write a better show that could play up to the studio's strengths?
Imagine KyoAni animating a cyberpunk show that's not a slice of life.
>best animation of all time
No no no
>Imagine KyoAni animating a cyberpunk show that's not a slice of life.
They wouldn't be good at it. They can only animate pretty girls and sometimes nice but not incredible action.
They should do Patlabor
>samefagging
OP, please
Why 3 nos?
>most openly gay characters of all time
>it's not actually yuri
How can we fix Kyoto Animation?
Just let KyoAni die
Make them do dramas then.
>high school
>bunch of girls acting gay
I just described 99% of Kyoanus' shows
Violet Evergarden
Speaking of which, I read the rough translation of the first chapter today. If KyoAni get it right, it will probably be the best opening episode of its season.
It will also be the kind of highly reputable show that gets cited as a beautiful work outside the context of anime (even if it underperforms locally which is very possible). I think KA must know this, which would be why they spammed multiple language announcements at the end of the CM and uploaded it with English title/subs, they want foreign attention.
>best animation
No
>Mediocre stories
No
But that's what Hibike! Euphonium is.
How can people be so impressed over animation of such simple subject matter? It's not an action heavy series, it's just cute girls.
Magical girls.
Seriously, why not create a more upbeat meguca show to counteract the grimdark trend Madoka started, like Gurren Lagann vis a vis Evangelion?
They should just do porn.
Kyoto anime is doing good
hibike euphonium is damn great
>why not create a more upbeat meguca show
Because Precure already exists.
This is what plebs say.
D-Don't get me wrong, I love Hibike.
OP was memeing but KyoAni gets praised for being consistent at animation and almost never having QUALITY in their shows, their character actin is also simple but effective, we don't get characters having seizures like in Yahari S2 or Space Dandy for example.
>mediocre stories
For you
>>best animation
>No
Why not? Kyoani shows are pretty much always the best looking shows in their respective seasons. The only studio that can fight with them in terms of animation is bones, but their animation isn't always that great.
mediocre animation
shit story
Fixed that for you user
bones show is not even the one with best animation this season. Also kyoanus is shit.
Which one is then?
Mob Psycho is the best-animated show this season though.
>just let the best animation studio die
'no'
If KyoAni is the best so who is in 2nd place?
I like how people who complain about KyoAni are unaware of what they actually make.
Were the godani posters rusing or is the next adaption actually going to be good?
Post a webm to prove it. But it needs to have real animation, not le spastic random colors.
Koe no Katachi or Violet Evergarden? Answer is "yes" either way.
Where's the rough translation?
They are posting Evergarden a fuck ton. Much more than Musaigen/Euphonium before it aired.
I don't have any saved, but take your pick from here:
sakuga.yshi.org
>le spastic random colors
So, colorful animation doesn't count?
that's 1 show out of how many user?
大垣舞台、映画「聲の形」全国公開へ
来月3日に先行上映
市が試写会の観覧者募集
ポスターを手に大垣市長さん
OKBストリートで買い物したらバッグ
5日から。10/9まで。先着四千人
#聲の形 8/2中日西濃版より
What did they mean by this?
Advance warning: it's on you-know-where (found it by googling), and the english has various slip ups (e.g. "several hundreds of million times"). Still relatively readable, and you can make out what the author was actually doing in each case.
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It would take a lot for that to happen considering how profitable they are.
I second that
Thanks user.
KyoAni should just stop making anime. Same repeated garbage
Is Mob Psycho the Nichijou of our time?
>Lots of sakuga
>Barely sells at all.
Around 7.
>Post a webm to prove it.
Just watch the ED on youtube, it's probably the most impressive animation sequence of this season.
Evergarden is much more hypable than pretty much anything they have done in a long while, not as a 500+-replies meme show about teenagers, but as a classy and "deep" show about loss and death and shit. Expect it to be a critical darling.
Bandai should cuck Sunrise and make Kyoanus animate a Gundam wrote by Urobuchi and/or Kodaka.
Japanese animation studios need a kick in the ass.
Alright, yeah, this is much better written than their previous LNs
Mediocre stories is high praise for moe pandering highly delusional relationship flicks.
Found the butthurt straightshit
Relationship are important but what was more important is showing the real struggle to earn your musical gains and they just didn't expose this beyond a few generic practice scenes.
>showing the real struggle to earn your musical gains
They did that through the whole show though.
Oh look it's the KyoAni has good animation meme again.
KyoAni should do iyashikei for sage adults and grandpas and mas, like YKK.
>Should they branch out into different genres?
>Phantom World: episodic harem. Result: flop.
>Kyoukai no Kanata: fantasy+supernatural. Result: flop.
>Nichijou: comedy. Result: flop.
>Tamako Market: comedy. Result: flop.
Compared to KyoAni's bread and butter, slice of life/school/melodrama series:
>K-On
>Lucky Star
>Haruhi
>Free!
No. This is why they are going back to Hibike. The only thing KyoAni can do are series like those four. Factually speaking, anything else they try outside of their comfort zone fails miserably.
KyoAni should also stay away from second seasons. Historically, they have never created a better second season than the first season of any anime.
Like I said, nothing beyond actual practice. They had opportunities to expose the struggle but they rather went into relationships than the real meat of the story.
I don't even know where to start with how wrong everything is.
"Kyoani expert and researcher"
How do they not have good animation again?
So you didn't watch the series I take it
Do you have eyes?
I learned all I need to know about it on reddit.
Other than KyoAnifags that made that picture in 2014 thinking they would put out 11 series in 2 years, there is nothing incorrect in my post.
Yeah and I study animation
You are the kind that thinks Free was about swimming and not about the character relations. You goddamn plebs who never watched any decent sports anime.
I think the die was cast when Nagatsuki vetoed the idea of KyoAni producing Re:Zero. Making sure that KyoAni would never produce a meaningful anime in their company history. Only ridiculously profitable idoltrash and moeshit.
>E1
Introductions, Kumiko joins wind ensemble
>E2
Everyone choose their instruments and Aoi (the girl who eventually quits) gets major focus in the later half
>E3
First years realize their senpais aren't practicing, teacher gives them the ultimatum
>E4
Practice and finally manage to play a song well
>E5
Marching band
>E6
Focus on Hazuki and how SHE STRUGGLES to even make sounds because she's so new to the instrument
>E7
Focus on Aoi and how SHE STRUGGLES to keep up with her studies and decides to quit band
>E8
Festival
>E9
Practice and auditions, subplot with Natsuki and how SHE STRUGGLES and FAILS to catch up with the rest of the Euphos after all those months of being lazy, this later gets touched in episode 10
>E10
Practice, SoL moments, sensei accepts second try for auditions
>E11
Kaori vs Reina
>E12
Kumiko STRUGGLES to get solo part right, sensei roasts and leaves her out of the part, this scene happens and she realizes how impotent Reina felt back in the first episode
So did Kumiko get to play that one part in the end or not?
>Hibike
>mediocre story
End yourself.
I should also add, that Kaori doesn't want to accept the fact that Reina is just better than her. Struggles are there and touched upon. You fucking retard didn't watch the anime or were not paying attention at all.
No.
No, sensei said to keep practicing for the Kansai competition, which they would advance to only if they got a non-dud gold in the prefecturals.
You fucking retard, Those are expectations and not the real struggle. This is all shallow passive shit and not the real depth of the meat. Literally the only character that practiced hard long term had never any screentime with her struggle. Everyone else was just fucking garbage and didn't even get into a real apprenticeship.
You literally name all those shallow entries of garbage that quits early on. Really struggle begins deep into the apprenticeship. Eupho was just a circlejerk of expectations. This is literally the surface of the struggle. You know shit about this topic so you should shut the fuck up about your garbage.
Perhaps not the extravagant Sakuga you have in mind, but the refinement and attention to detail is absolutely top tier.
Each frame is so damn clean and crisp with barely any error in character structure to be found.
It's arrogant/ignorant to claim that it's lacklustre or that it's unimpressive.
>This newbiew struggling to even blow the instrument correctly are just expectations!
>This third year struggling to keep up with both her studies and club activities are just expectations!
>This second year struggling to get on the level of her classmates before the audition and then failing are just expectations!
>This main character struggling to get a crucial part in the song right and eventually failing anyway are just expectations!
It's hard to take anyone who says kyoani has mediocre/shit animation seriously. It just sounds too much like false flagging bait and its not at all believable. Literally every studio has said they wish they could do what kyoani does with their shows.
Even if you hate kyoani for whatever reason animation quality is the one thing you have to give them props for.
>falling for the bait
>MUH STRUGGLE
>it's not meaningful because they didn't show the students practicing autistically until their hands bled like whiplash
Kill yourself my man
Hibikek on a technical level is already impressive and very few shows come close to its quality. People are being straight retarded when they call it shit animation wise.
the umaku naritai scene is one of my favorite in all of anime i'd say
>using struggle as a buzzword to strengthen your argument
>newbies having problems and getting depressed is struggle and not just failed expectations
>third year struggling about an entirely different matter than her apprenticeship
>second year starting short term practice sessions thinking she can beat years of experience and then getting depressed is struggle and not expectations
>main character literally doesn't even give a fuck about her hobby until the last third of the anime
>>it's not meaningful because they didn't show the students practicing autistically until their hands bled like whiplash
Actually, they kind of did. And Midori had to use those tapes in her fingers.
Is KyoAni becoming pretentious?
I think you don't know what struggle and expectation mean. You seem to think they're mutually exclusive. The teacher for example was expecting Kumiko to get the solo part right, Kumiko struggled with it for 2 episodes but she couldn't get it right.
Will S2 have more struggling?
Dealing with expectations is beginner shit. That's what I meant when I said they just touch the surface of the struggle. Literally the only girls that was deep in her apprenticeship didn't have any screentime with her struggle. It was just beginner shit the entire time and people that didn't take the hobby seriously anyway. Ponytail had potential but once her expectations failed her she basically quit instead of going into the real struggle.
I have no idea if you will read this OP, but my my understanding is that there is an actual reason why we are stuck with the writers and stories they choose to animate. I believe they have a fairly unique relationship with kadokawa compared with other anime companies, and additionally I believe they have some sort of in house quota to animate a certain number of shows based on novels written within either KyoAni or kadokawa.
Also, this is all 100% heresay but it is my understanding of matters.
So basically you wanted the show to be more technical bullshit and less people dealing with actual problems.
Your complains are all over the place.
>mediocre stories
hibike euphonium was GOAT
I wanted less relationship garbage and more character with instrument alone time.
Your complains are very silly to be honest. Just admit you're shitting on the show because it's KyoAni and get it over with.
What you fail to realize is that the "relationship bullshit" is far more interesting than the details of learning how to play an instrument. If you're interested in that there's better ways to obtain that information than narrative media.
Hibike never marketed itself as some sort of band documentary, relationships and character drama are part and parcel
Way to be an unreasonable fag
Just stop adapting dumb ass Light Novels and go back to the core strength of god-tier 4koma adaptions
I already knew before even reading the first reply to this thread that some worthless contrarian was gonna claim that KyoAni has bad animation.
Lo and behold the euphoric gentlemen made their move as expected, so predictable.
Go ahead and explain why you think KyoAni isn't visually outstanding, I'd love to hear the reasoning.
That's why it was garbage.
>little autistic baby is intimidated by character interaction
Back to the shortbus kid
>KyoAni should also stay away from second seasons. Historically, they have never created a better second season than the first season of any anime.
>what is FMP
Not only did FMP S2 outdo Fumoffu, it also outdid S1