Why does anybody even care about SHAFT and kyoani anymore?
Last good Kyoani series was Haruhi which was over a decade ago, and last good SHAFT anime was Madoka 5 years ago.
White Fox has released 2 blockbusters in the last 5 years with Steins;Gate and Re:Zero and steadily releases other quality shows like The Devil is a Part Timer, Jormungand, and Katanagatari. Why haven't we hailed our new overlords yet?
Joseph Lee
>White Fox >even comparable to KinoAni
Liam Jones
White Fox doesn't release pure moeshit, that's why.
Wyatt Richardson
>White fox
Elijah Lee
Because PA Works is better.
Adrian Rivera
Kyoani isn't even better than SHAFT let alone White Fox.
Joshua Campbell
White Fox girls aren't cute enough. The only reason the gochiusas are cute is because Koi drew them that way to begin with.
Jack Wood
They are on their way to the top user, chill.
They made two top-tier waifus with re:zero alone. I think they got the ropes of the trade now.
Chase Gonzalez
So OP hasn't watched anything done by Kyoani since Haruhi.
Nice to know.
Luis Ross
White Fox is solid. Leave them the fuck out of your studio war bullshit.
Henry Thomas
Emilia is cute but boring, Rem has a great personality but a shit design YEAH I SAID IT.
Angel Miller
Rem and Kurisu are 5x better than the waifu material anything Kyoanus has produced ever
Jayden Wright
>Kino
Adrian Richardson
Their next show sure looks great faggot.
Jaxson Kelly
That's fine user but let's not turn this into a waifu war, they both are cute independent of who is my favorite.
Kayden Murphy
>shit zero >blockbuster
>sub 10k sales >blockbuster
Brayden Fisher
Ironic that you posted one of the few shows by Kyoani that I HAVE watched since K-on, and was complete shit.
I stopped bothering with Kyoani since Tamako Market which finally destroyed any lingering faith I had in the studio.
Brody Rodriguez
>was complete shit
You do realize Hyouka is a pleb filter right? It's like BvS, only people with little experience in the medium hate it.
Lincoln Hill
You can't neglect the importance of background waifus though
Anthony Lopez
Most of what KyoAni has done in the last 5 years has ranged from bad to uninspired, but Hyouka and Euphonium are good shows.
Gabriel Green
Why are the kyoani vs. shaft-circlerjerkers trying to pull white fox in their silly fake studio-war threads? Can't they simply keep it purely shaft-vs-kyoani?
Justin Fisher
Why do people post these autistic threads? Why do people reply to them?
sage
Jonathan Walker
The only thing more pretentious than hyouka are the people who try to defend it.
Christopher Ward
It was just "Average" enough for me to drudge through the entire thing without dropping, but I don't pay attention to studio's who produce mediocre content like Hyouko, K-On, and Chuni.
Haruhi was legitimately amazing and Nichijou was at least good and Clannad did some pretty interesting things in the second season. Everything after that though has been entirely forgettable.
Same boring animations designs, no ambitious content. Kyoani is a has-been, just accept it.
Cameron Torres
It's not even done yet, sales are already good, and the best is yet to come. Re:Zero is touching all the bases. LN sales are gonna go through the roof.
Wyatt Foster
White Fox is actually better than both of them though. SHAFT is still milking monogatari and Madoka for all it's worth, but has yet to find a replacement once the money stops rolling it. White Fox has been milking Steins;Gate, but with Re:Zero, they'll be fine for years to come.
Levi Morales
K-On is literally a genre-defining work and achieves something special regardless of your opinion of the value of SoL.
Landon Morgan
To be a blockbuster needs to reach SAO levels, anything lower is overrated mediocrity.
Nathaniel Kelly
In about two seasons nobody's gonna talk about r:0. The only show they've made that keeps having threads in a daily basis is GochiUsa, and guess what? It's the same thing people shit on KyoAni all the time, the moeshit. Funny how their most talked show on Sup Forums is 'moeshit'
But forget about if their shows has lots of threads, you know what's the real problem here? Most of the people who talks about those shows doesn't care about the studio behind them, probably they even don't know the name of the studio.
This doesn't happens in the case of KyoAni/Shaft. Be it shit, be it a masterpiece or be it an average show, people can distinguish the studio that's making a particular show, because they have a distinctive style, which you might like or not, that doesn't matter.
So no, there's still a long, long loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way for not only WF but for any other studio to achieve the status that KyoAni/Shaft has.
Parker Peterson
Kyoani vs SHAFT is a meme. A-1 destroys any studio that isn't Sunrise or Toei.
Grayson Gomez
Do you think the forced animation meme came from nowhere? Kino are probably the best studio on a technical level. But they seem to have killed off all creative minds in the process. It's one sleep inducing show after after another.
Angel Ward
Even so, K-On came out in 2010. Since then, Madoka, Steins;Gate, Re:Zero, and a bunch of Monogatari sequels have all come out.
Kyoani is used goods. Still trying to use the K-On animation for every anime they've ever made after. They've lost all creativity they ever had.
Daniel Roberts
>Jormungand >quality show It's fucking trash mate, what are you on about?
Joseph Rodriguez
>it's a fan of another studio is jealous of Kyoani again thread
Elijah Morales
It will. SAO will fall just like Index did.
Hunter Peterson
Is this Yui or Ritsu? Because I can't tell since Kyoani as used cookie cutter character designs since 2010.
Jordan Martin
>being this autistic you can't recognize anime characters with exaggerated characteristics
Holy shit everything they say about Kyoani haters is true you guys are a sorry pathetic bunch of losers
Thomas Hughes
Shitdex was never as big as SAO though.
Lincoln James
Say that to my face fucker and not online
Isaac Jones
>A-1 destroys any studio that isn't Sunrise or Toei
Only in terms of output. A1's too inconsistent to judge. One season they're making Asterisk and the next season they're making QUALITY Code.
Luke Ward
Both of them aren't White fox properties unlike majority of girl from Kyoani shows in recent years.
Brayden Howard
*girls
Carson Robinson
Index was literally the pioneer in showing the financial potential of the LN industry. Fuck off you bitch ass faggot, I would fite you irl.
Ian Walker
Are you forgetting all of the other LN adaptations that occurred way before Index? The Slayers is an easy one to remember. Heck, Haruhi is another, more contemporary example.
Joshua Robinson
Autism;Gateway was basically reddit: the anime, you goddamn faggot.
Jose Harris
Index is the One Piece of LNs
Levi Wood
Maybe in length, don't think so in sales.
Tyler Russell
>he thinks original character designs is all that matters
I don't watch gochiusa but every time i see a random image of it i was stunned by how well the colors are done in them.
Carson Peterson
It passed 10K already.
Eli Bell
>Your lie in April >Erased >Working!! >SAO >Aldnoah.Zero >Silver Spoon >Magi >Servant x Service >Tsuritama >Space Brothers >Uta no Price >Blue Exorcist >Saekano
That's just the last 5 years. A-1 Fucking dominates the industry both in quality AND quantity.
Alexander Murphy
>Denpa Kyoushi >Qualidea Code >Gunslinger Stratos
There's way too much variation in their production quality. With other studios like Kyoani and even White Fox, their quality is generally consistent, but with A1 you just pray they think the work is profitable.
Evan Cruz
A rare A-1 fanboy appeared. Or maybe it's just bait.
Gabriel Nelson
He didn't even pick Nanatsu no Taizai.
Andrew Turner
>Have a ton of animators working in a sweatshop >With above average budget >Spam every anime season with 3-4 series, hit or miss releases. A-1 is like that whore who does good services for a cheap price. But she's still a whore after all.
Parker Sanchez
A-1 is shit
But what do you guys think about A-2?
Wyatt Clark
Reeeee: 0 isn't even on the same level of a KyoAni or Shaft heavy weights. It's a meme show that I happen to enjoy, but it's watching some sperg getting his comeuppance for being a supreme gentleman. There's nothing deeper than that. There aren't any characters memorable for their writing. I won't remember after it's over outside of memes.
Josiah Ward
All of which were only only popular AFTER an anime adaptation. Index was a cash cow before it was adapted.
John Perry
God-tier.
Michael Robinson
>MCA nice joke
Noah Brown
Re:Zero isn't even done yet. It's a huge topic of discussion both among Japanese fans and foreign anime fans. Stalker stopped tracking BD sales before the show even went in to full gear, and it was already doing well before that.
I can say with absolute confidence it's gonna be a financial gold mine.
Leo Taylor
>ViVid
Adam Turner
Literally irrelevant noname studio. Well maybe they make quality adaptations but the original is always shit (all the shows you listed except hataraku) which makes it all pointless. Reeee zero didn't even sell good.
Luis Bennett
Hardly surprising, the adaptation couldn't keep its shit together by the end.
Angel Moore
SHAFT is a joke my friend.
I mean, they make some entertaining shows, but they can't go out of their comfort zone. They just love remaking the same thing over and over again. Hell, half of their shows have the exact same lead male VA, same personality too.
Kyoani is good. Can't wait to see KnK.
White fox is ok. Don't see how they're special. I'd put them in the same tier as Dogakobo, outside of a gem every once in a while they just make "ok" shows
Julian Cooper
>He hasn't watched Hibike Euphonium and Kizumonogatari yet
Joseph Walker
Will A-2 ever stop being Aniplex slaves?
Mason Powell
Really? I didn't notice anything wrong.
Cooper Evans
Trolling about shows aside, White Fox is one of the better studios out there. Not quite enough to be my favorite but I respect them.
Jackson Jones
>Reddit:Zero >Blockbuster >Will sell less than Chuu2 or Mekaku City Actors
Carter Richardson
Where did all the SHAFT fans disappear too?
Grayson Lee
>Why haven't we hailed our new overlords yet? Because SEASON 2 NEVER
Brayden Moore
I'd rather not have one, things get quite stale in the LN.
Ryder Adams
Sure, the LNs will sell and the anime will be your typical LN commercial. No one doubts that. I'm saying no one will give a shit about the anime in a season or two outside of Subaru's autism. 18 episodes and Subaru has yet to grow and Rem is the closest thing to a fleshed out character. Puck and the cat boi are more entertaining than the entire human cast.
On the otherhand, Madoka, Monogatari, Kon, and Haruhi had memorable characters with defining moments beyond "MC is a sperg who can revive" within the first few episodes. We're not talking about LN sale, we're talking about the quality of an anime.
Oliver Cox
Katanagatari is their GOAT
Austin Lee
doga kobo = the new kyoani
white fox = the new shaft
thoughts?
Aaron Butler
Katanagatari is best Gatari. SHAFT fans get fucked.
Dominic Sullivan
>pretending that RE:Zero is anything other than SAO-tier trash.
Andrew White
Because Silver Link is better.
Dominic Kelly
>pretentious >I can't defend my opinion so I will instead use buzzwords
Evan Foster
What does it have that NNB didn't? Other than the bog-standard suburban setting.
Justin Morris
A-1 forfeited their right to exist when they produced SAO.
>Good tier Silver Link Kyoto Animation J.C.Staff Shaft Madhouse
>Sometimes good tier White Fox Brains Base Trigger Sunrise Bones P.A Works Wit Studio
>Shit tier A-1 Diomedea
Noah James
>Steins;Gate and Re:Zero It's shit.
Tyler Flores
I'm really looking forward to White Fox's original next season.
Gabriel Rogers
I really hate KyoAni, but not for the usual reasons. I hate them because they have such skilled direction and animation but all they make is garbage. What a fucking waste.
Jose Bell
It's their fault for falling for the evil Kadokawa meme.
Camden Gutierrez
Kyoani is shit. It's just an Sup Forums meme to pretend they're good.
Luis Lewis
That's a rabbit desu
Ryder Brown
bait
Jaxson Morgan
How can shit fox compete?
Logan Wood
Re:Zero is genuine garbage.
White Fox are just a lame studio without any real sense of identity or style. They'll never be well known outside of morons like the OP, who think Re:Zero is a great anime.
Kevin Russell
WOW WHITE FOX IS FUCKING BASED
Anthony Allen
>Katanagatari >It's a promising studio with decent budget and they're faithful to the source material >S;G >Finally an excellent and memorable VN-adaptation >Jormungand >What was that, but still >Maou-sama >A shit >all the rest >cancer (yes, even Re:Zero)
Connor Smith
People talk about KyoAni and SHAFT all the time because it's the only two studios idiots know off hand. Well, maybe Toei and Sunrise too, but a lot of other studios fall by the wayside in peoples' minds.
I'm the kinda guy who likes a lot of different studios, though. White Fox, A-1 Pictures, hell, I think 8bit's doing a bang-up job with rewrite this season.
Jack Reyes
>not mentioning akame ga kill KEK >Reddit:Zero >good LMAO