Are you a dedicated National Socialist?

Are you a dedicated National Socialist?

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>socialism

Lmao

No I am an aloof international capitalist

Nope, I prefer the other branches of fascist thought and I prefer national spirits over racial half true pseudo science.

He was okay and saved Germany (Also doomed it) and the natsoc crew are mostly fine people but sometimes they get a bit reeeee over other different fascists

yes. I accept no compromises, and I have a detailed plan on how to carry out white national socialism in the USA

No I'm a racist WASP libertarian

Absolutely.

socialism is for idiots who don't understand how to charge an economy for better stuff. Fuck socialism, and fuck national socialism even more

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Until there is a leader worthy of such a name, no.

But when the time comes that he arrives, I will be.

riddle me how Nazi Germany's economy exploded through NATSOC policies?

Funny thing about that Franklin quote is he also says Germans aren't White.

Hitler was right.

For the hundredth time national socialism is not Marxist socialism.

Giving people free shit is a bad idea in general.

Yes

Germans are white but they are still barbarians compared to the superior Anglo-Saxons and german immigrants destroyed the racial stock of this country

Giving people free things for the purpose of them to prosper and independence is good in general. Just like investment but don't expect profit in return.

>socialist

The only good nazi is a dead one.

It's not free if there is a direct correlation of payout with return. If there was some system in place to guarantee that would happen I would be fine with it.

>national spirits over racial half true pseudo science.
The nation is the people, and the people is their blood. There is no nationalism without racism.

Agreed.

I like when Hitler said something like "we do not simply ask the rich to give to the poor, but we say 'Germany give to your own people'", or something like that.

The welfare state would seem redundant in a state where Christian values were upheld and the nation was ethnically homogeneous.
Private charity would be abundant, and there would be greater instrinsic motivation to work.
Money/paying the bills wouldn't be the main factor. Racial/national pride would come into play.

That's why I'm a National Libertarian. I like everything about the Third Reich except for the welfare state, the free healthcare, and the gun control (it was ok but not great).

(((german immigrants)))

Twenty five million armed russians

National Socialism is probably the most entry-level redpill in existence.

>Muh religion will fix everything
It's too easy to feign religious fervor.
The reality is that charities are a crutch for shitty people. If you make a certain lifestyle untenable, then fewer people will live that lifestyle, either by dying out or doing something else.

The goal is to make it horrible to be poor, and awesome to be a middle class worker.

no

No. But i am a biocentric thinker.

This is why government should be giving free things/fund for people who wanted to strive and improve but lacks of resources instead of giving it to lazy people who has no clear planning what they want to do to be financially independent. This program should be able to divide which poor people who has ambition or not.

This picture was my phone background when i was 10 years old. What do you think?

Good luck setting up a system like that which actually yields results. Giving people money because they have ambition is a great way to get rid of their ambition.

What are some higher level ones?

Well it should works just like investment firm. The government really need to properly judge and taking close care of those people who want to work out of poverty. Need to have sound plan, clear program, fixed timeline to start their projects to be out of poverty. Also never giving money for them, only things they need to get out from it and the purchase should be done by government officer not by themselves to prevent corruption and theft. Lots of homeless people have aspiring ambition to be entrepreneurs.

This.

Hoppean Libertarianism
Monarchism
Fascism (Classical)
NRx

The socialist welfare state was ok in germany because they were certain blacks and other inferior humans wouldnt qualify. They also had a closed and secure border. The rabid racist right had no problem providing welfare to whites only. Even if the some of the whites were inbred fucking morons.

No But I'll say a couple ideas of national socialism are alright.

>Monarchism
>Giving unlimited power based solely on familial inheritance
>Good

Absolutely destroyed my sides there m8, good laff.

People lie to each other constantly for reasons they barely understand, but they all assume they get away with it.

That 'free shit' was a reward for people's hard work. No one was given anything for free in Germany. If you didn't work, Hitler wasn't going to hold your hand and give you free money. He told you to get a job literally anywhere or else you are 'work shy' and can go to Dachau to learn the real value of work. All the government benefits Germany provided, healthcare, education, vacations were only for people who WORKED. This is what I can't understand about Americans or Libertarians. They keep saying it was 'welfare but for white people' when it clearly wasn't by any measure. Only WORKING people got nice things as a reward for their WORK. It's not very hard to understand.

Let me think about that...

No.

Men that are born and trained to be leaders is vastly superior to what ever democracy gives to us. It isn't the best way to handle it, but it's preferable.

Yep. Get ready for the influx of shills and brainlets who claim Hitler's socialism is identical to Marxist socialism. There are only a few issues I disagree with. Including the ownership of firearms and censorship of literature but I suppose censorship is necessary when filth oozes throughout your society.

no, jewesses are my weakness

Fucking idiot. The poor don't keep the money, they spend it, in turn stimulating the economy.

Is your willy tingling?

Not all the way, Germany is comprised of Celts,Nords and other Whites and the empires of old take Rome for instance were comprised of the national spirit of Rome in all it's glory rather then Celt or Med """"Nationalism""""

The Germans did try to push we wuz ancient alantaians tier racial supremacy. And say what you want about Jews but a lower class kike does not have some evil commie alien or ant hive mind . Instead it's their culture,religion and history which have put the Jews into their place and made them the enemies of us.

Don't be retarded and take everything I said as le civic nationalism and being fine with thousands of Sub-Saharan Muslims flooding Europe as Mussolini and other fascists would obviously disagree on that

is this jay marvel?

>Socialist
You throw those out of choppers

I am more dedicated than I ever planned on being. I hide my power level95% percent of the time, which I think takes more dedication than I ever knew too. That being said I'm the happiest and most successful that I've ever been.

:-^)

Who dat?

No. National socialists are all retarded secretly gay fuckheads

If giving the poor money works like that, then why doesn't the government constantly give the poor all their money? Surely the new value flow would enrich us beyond our wildest dreams!

This. If you don't work you get your ass whooped a.ka left on your own.

That's because the poor would always make bad judgement on how to spend the money, like alcohol or cigarette. Government should have institutional education center to giving the poor knowledge how to survive and financially independent from the money given by government.

They'll just attend the classes and take the money, then spend it how they always do.

There is always some portion of the population willing to do the absolute minimum to get by. When you subsidize the minimum, these people thrive and bog down the system that supports them.

Yes,

White, married a White, Engineer, Debt free, good house in a 100% White area, Firearms licence, red pilled my wife when I got red pilled - realised that the Natzis were the good guys. Going to have as many children as possible.

>socialists hate natsocs
>natsocs hate socialists
>socialists don't like natsoc because it isn't socialism
>natsocs don't like socialists because they're socialists

>capitalists keep calling natsoc socialism
It's nothing more than a childish cop-out at this point. An easy way to dodge having to address the incredible achievements of the Third Reich.

Yeah, this is why I am against giving money directly. If they need something tor their livelihood, the government is the one who should purchase it and give it to them, like tools, equipment or even store however with strict evaluation and should be closely monitored for their progress as to not be abused. People who works in investment firms or bank might know better on these evaluation program and tightly controlled investment for the poor.

Sounds like it would be way more trouble than it's worth. Why not just give them opportunities at apprenticeships?

I can't tell if you're being obtuse by choice or by ability.

>national capitalism
>varg-style paganism
>radical centrism
>blackpilled judaism

>Good luck setting up a system like that
>which actually yields results
couldn't be easier. the problem is jewish corruption and assassination.

Don't think I didn't see you swap your flag, kiwi commie.

Cycling money around in a circle doesn't generate real value. Real value comes from various sources, but poor people buying alcohol is quite a poor one.

The best sources of value enrich both sides, eg. raw materials.

>Cut down a tree, saw into planks
>Sell planks for more than it cost to cut down tree
>Buy planks, build table
>Sell table for more than it cost to build table
>Buy table, put it in your house
>Sell house for more value added than the table cost
The government taking people's money reduces the activity in these larger cycles. If the government takes from one cycle to feed an inferior cycle, they harm the economy.

You can't just cut taxes and expect everything to magically fix itself, but taxing peter to pay the blind man ends up with everyone dead in the ditch.

I'm dedicated to one thing and one thing only.
>fuck
>shitnut
>dick
Killing Nazis

That's true, apprenticeship is a good way to start. But is there any government institution who accept people who has poor background and low educational level to work there? It's different than volunteer.

Apprenticeship schooling isn't government based, at least in the US. The trade school near me has extremely affordable tuition, but notably businesses will pay you to be an apprentice while you attend your trade school.

>Swap flag for another thread and forgot to change back.
>"Don't think I didn't see it"
>Americans.
I didn't say it generated value, just that it stimulated the economy.

>We don't say to the rich 'Give to the poor', we say 'German people, help each other'. Rich or poor, each one must help thinking, there's someone even poorer than I am, and I want to help them as a fellow countryman. - Hitler

I get not wanting to help niggers and spics, but not helping your own people takes a real sort of heartlessness.

I hope you eventually realize the German soldier in question died with honor, something faggots like you have 0 concept of.

If it's not generating value, then that means you're creating a bubble. You'll have a dropoff equal or greater than the gain you experience compared to actual growth. Wanting stimulation without growth suggests you want another housing crisis.

Having heart is one of the worst things you can do for people you care about.

It's just cycling money, no?

No, it's not. Money that goes to short-production consumables is worse-spent overall than money spent developing things with long-term value. If all that mattered was cycling more money at a given value, then we could be far far richer than we are right now simply by taxing everyone and paying out to a portion of the population every year.

I don't see why a government wouldn't want a better life for your citizens. Citizens that are capable of being productive are worth more long term than forever being a net loss to society, no?

Government should set up free apprentice schools program to be honest. Lots of unskilled labors roaming the streets, wanted to do something but unable how and what to do. Men can be taught craftsmanship, to be electrician, or wielder. Women can be taught to make accessory, cooking, nursing, or teaching. It doesn't have to specifically gendered.

But government should held apprentice school by looking at the demands of the job. If the job has low demand of workers, it'd be difficult as well. The government also can provide students with lots of information on where the vacancy might be available. Setting up the employment agency should help that. Being socialism means taking care of the people by helping them stand on their own feet after all, not giving lazy people free money.

>Are you a dedicated National Socialist?

No.

But pic related is.

That depends on what keeps those governing in power. Their incentives are directly tied to what keeps them in power, since the politicians distracted by other things like ethics and scruples lose to those who aren't worried about anything but reelection. Right now there's a big voting block that likes people who give them free shit so they don't have to do anything, so there's a big portion of the government's representatives that caters to them.

Have you ever been to the US? The fact is that a huge chunk of the people roaming the streets here are mentally ill, and incapable of working any kind of job. The mentally sound get government help with housing and employment already. Hell, even the illegal immigrants manage to find accommodations quite quickly.

I'm also not counting those who have no home by choice, because they live out of their car, shower at the gym, then go to work. Those people could move in a heartbeat, and get a job in a place with cheaper housing.

POST PORG AND HEIL HITLER

>national socialist
>BTFO'd in WWII
Neo nationalism and Hoppean Anarcho capitalism is obviously the best candidates

I don't believe promising gibs for votes should be legal, and that's not what I was talking about.

I just meant, surely it's better for the government to spend money if it makes the population more productive than to hoard it and leave people suffering without a means to better themselves.

BTFO'd in war, not by economic system like Soviet. Would the Nazi government sustain itself if there's no war?

no, they were bankrupt in 39 and had to invade to keep the economy from collapsing

The government is run by people who want to stay in power.
Those people have the power to give gibs
There are people who want gibs, and will give votes to get and keep their gibs flowing.

How is this hard to understand? In a system where gibs exist, they will be corrupted and manipulated by those who want to stay in power.

You don't even need to say "vote for me because I will give you stuff". Just say "I believe we need to help our poor" and you get the same message across.

I think we misunderstand eachother. You were seeing it from a democratic standpoint, and I was seeing it from an autocratic one.

Source?
I'm also curious on how Hitler can keep his party going with lots of paramilitary members before he became chancellor. Did he get a lot of sponsor?

Autocracies still have to keep the people happy to stay in power, or they find they lose both power and people.

Without a doubt
>dude like lol it says SOSHULIST in the name they're clearly socialists lol. what do you mean north korea are called the "democratic people's republic of korea"?

To me, not having a shit quality of living qualifies as keeping people happy.

There is no source. Le war economy maymay is so tired it's not even funny.

Now, this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute
To sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air

In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys who were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'

I begged and pleaded with her day after day
But she packed my suit case and sent me on my way
She gave me a kiss and then she gave me my ticket.
I put my Walkman on and said, 'I might as well kick it'.

First class, yo this is bad
Drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass.
Is this what the people of Bel-Air living like?
Hmmmmm this might be alright.

But wait I hear they're prissy, bourgeois, all that
Is this the type of place that they just send this cool cat?
I don't think so
I'll see when I get there
I hope they're prepared for the prince of Bel-Air

Well, the plane landed and when I came out
There was a dude who looked like a cop standing there with my name out
I ain't trying to get arrested yet
I just got here
I sprang with the quickness like lightning, disappeared

I whistled for a cab and when it came near
The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I could say that this cab was rare
But I thought 'Nah, forget it' - 'Yo, holmes to Bel Air'

I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo holmes smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air

No, it's a meme

Ideological fanaticism is dumb.

>Are you a dedicated National Socialist?
No. It would be social suicide.

>conflating the DPRK and with NatSoc ideology

The closest you'll ever get is when you attack a trash can or a starbucks

It was a 1930's German political movement. It belongs online, in museums and in our minds, not on the street or in practice. Hitler wrote twice about the need for fresh ideas when creating a movement.

t. NatSoc leaf

Eh, Franklin was a massive Francophile and probably absorbed the anti-German sentiment during his time in France.

No, it doesn't work.

.. The party died in 1945. We need to learn from Hitler, surely the most lied about man since Jesus Christ, but not try to reincarnate him or his movement. Rehabilitating his image is wholly necessary, but cheap imitations do more harm than good.

NYC 1941