In this map you'll see Belgium, the map shows which counties are less or more poor.
The definition of poor in Belgium = having equal or less than 60% of the median wage.
Take a look at this map, one of these two regions has been voting socialist for over 20 years and other didn't.
Pick your guesses.
Legend:
light/green = less poor
dark/red = more poverty/poor
It's the top half, huh? Thanks rich people
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It's actually the bottom half who's been voting socialist for over 20 years
Now this begs the question: Are they poor because they vote socialist or do they vote socialist because they are poor?
Once upon a time they were very industrialized and voted liberal (not the american version). Then all of the sudden they started voting for leftists parties et voila they became poor
If I remember right all over the west industrial jobs started to go under around the same time which would have fucked them over.
So why didn't we flemish get poor after losing our factories?
Different economic structures. South was more dependent on industry is my guess. Like in Murrica Detroit went to shit fast when car industry withered.
Please Flanders, don't secede, or else Wallonia will join France
I am not denying anything but the colour scale choice is error inducing. You go from white to red from one echelon to another. It makes Wallonie looks overly poor where a good chunk of the region is just a bit less rich than Flanders.
And yes, Wallonie was totally industry depending whereas Flanders was service economy driven. This inverted who detained wealth and who voted for what ideology in the 40 last years. Poverty breeds socialism which increases poverty.
>Once upon a time they were very industrialized and voted liberal (not the american version).
Cna someon give me the quick run down of what euros consider lib/conservative vs what americucks believe? IE Merkel is a "conservative"
To Europeans liberals are small government intervention free market advocates. State should do as little as possible, the free market will fix it. Conservatives are mostly moral/tradition conservation advocates and wish to maintain things mostly the same as always. Of course with conservatives they're all Christians advocating Christian values which hilariously enough often leads to importing loads of people who are not followers of said values. All this because muh Christian values.
Of course one should strictly separate people who say they're socially liberal from politically liberal as being socially liberal is all the rage all over the spectrum.
>protestants vs catholics
>rich vs poor
>capitalists vs communists
fuck off, wallonia
WE
Fun Fact: that big red blob in flanders is full of sand niggers
t. Big red blob inhabitant
Flanders was poorer than Walloons earlier in history, it was that post-industrial shift to service economy that spelled the decline.
Daarom vlaanderen terug naar nederland. Hoef je gelijk de portemonnee nirt meer te trekken voor die kut walen
Socialism doesn't fucking work.
Free markets work.
Flemish needs to be independent, I don't want to be a part of the Netherlands
flemish people are dutch tho, why do you hate your own people
This is exactly what I said.
the flemish invested in education and economy. In wallonia they money disappeared in the pockets of the corporations&politicians.
It all boils down to walloons being greedy shits.
Socialism is for stupid people.
Fuck socialism
How about no, the Netherlands has way more immigrants than we do. I don't want them in the mix
No we're not, Flemish aren't as cucked as Dutch people
Flemish people aren't Dutch we are flemish
Redpill about Belgium: the biggest political parties of North and South have to form a government, but the way the polls are at this moment, a new government will be nigh-impossible to make. Prepare for a crisis on never-before seen scale, it might very well be the end of Belgium as we know it (elections are in 2019-2020)
We dont need holland, we are already have brussels and wallonia living out of our pocket, we dont want to pay for your shitskins too.
>It all boils down to walloons being greedy shits.
but i thought the greed was in the north
>living in (((nederland)))
>not having to get your wallet out and spreading your butt every month
allee manneke
Morrocan living in Brussel here.
If the flemish go independant, I will ask for flemish citizenship.
Wallonia is poorer than my ghetto in brussel lel
holland actually pays for the rest of the country and is more concerned with the environment
it's the frisians that are socialists
>Belgium
>socialist voters are richer
>Belgium
>where nine tenths the population is employed by government.
>literally voting for policies that make working for the state more and more profitable
You're Vigrina, the country.
I hate you more than the swiss.
you mean groningen
>Morrocan living in Brussel here.
seems legit
your cities are even more BLACKED than ours, we don't want your Surinamers roaming about here
>Germanic vs French
Wow. No surprises there.
groningen is part of the frisian area user
WUZ
Flems are Dutch as much as Dutch are Germans. They are an extra layer of separation and you should probably all just bro up with Austria and Switzerland as well.
why do you think immigration would be different if flanders joined the netherlands?
you realize we're both in schengen right?
Hey man, dont forget we would need to invest billions in fixing your crooked infrastructure
It's because frenchies are bad with money.
>nine tenths of the population is employed by the government
not true, it's even the opposite. Leaf never fails to amaze
belguim didnt have a goverment for over a year and still it didnt collapse.
It will never happen.
nope, back when wallonia was booming and flanders was made up of dirtpoor farmers wallonia never shared a penny with us, even when there was famine, they let us starve to death.
But when the tables started to turn we started filling their holes in the budget, but the holes started getting bigger and bigger, now it turns out they are poorer then greece.
Flanders could pay of the belguim national debt in 10 years if they stoped the money transfer from flanders to wallonia.
Just think about that, we are talking about a +100 billion debt getting payed of in 10 years.
wrong
flemish is a dialect of dutch, whereas modern dutch and modern german are different languages within the germanic group
the flemish are to the dutch what the bavarians are to the germans
i was making a self-deprecating joke lad
Yes but there will be more incentive since we would be 'one country'. How about you first sort out how your country will survive another couple of years with Rutte
literally talking out of your ass
Kanker neger.
Leafs are meme flags now.
it's because a government was still POSSIBLE. With current polls, not even a 5-party coalition will be enough (the parties in question would be MR, NVA, CD&v, Open VLD and CD-H, since this would only give 76/150 seats)
Who has more shitskins (makakken/zwartjoekels), lelgium or neeterland?
lol no, if anything there'd be incentive for flemish to move north since our roads don't suck dick
the french part
i think belgium relatively but in raw numbers it might be us
Literally the same thing. Being poor makes you stupid and being stupid makes you poor.
>Morrocan living in Brussel here.
Why not move back to Morocco?
>moving to another country because of roads
how about you first kill Rutte, then we'll talk about joining you
Thanks god im a rich right wing asshole conservative nazi. I grew up with feminin liberal indoctrination and my life was fucking hell as a kid. As I was forced in my late 20ies to become a full fledged asshole & gym-bro everything turned totally to the better: Money, Health, Happines+ Being respected. The stereotypes are 100% true!
INDUSTRIALISED
Definetly the Netherlands, since Belgiums biggest foreign group is Italians
Even without the map you could still guess which part votes socialist. Pretty all the Belgians who post here are Flemish.
I was right
in 2010 NL had 1.4 million non-EU foreigners, whereas Belgium in 2012 had 1.35 million
because we have 5 - 6 million more total population, belgium has a higher percentage, while we have more in total
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
The white race if provided with the economic freedom to express its racial creative insticts in a meritocratic system which rewards productive actions and punishes counterproductive ones works. Detroit wont become a paradise if Libertarians stole it.
? the opposite
okay nigger
okay
nigger
why don't you go to brussels and do me a favour by getting your self exploded
But still you're a g*rman kraut mof
>gibe back grandpa's bike you hun
P.s.
Read Culture of Critique
Re-unified Brabant when?
I don't know if these numbers take your Surnamense people in considerations since they could be seen as 'native'
Because it is better to live here?
Are dutch people stupid?
If you take the train through the three stations of Brussels, you will see at least 70% foreigners, AND you will have to deal with a beggar who's collecting money for "the people in his country who desperately need it." I absolutely dread going through that shithole but I have to because of work.
still groningen is so scarcely populated it's mostly the cities that are providing the socialists with votes
those are literally mentioned 2 paragraphs later you illiterate fuck
>Because it is better to live here?
You're making Brussels, Belgium and Europe a worse place. Why not take one for the team and fuck off
your point being?
nice blog. give back bike and move along bitte
thanks
plus the 2nd generations upwards, who are born here but are obviously still shitskins
It's better tot live here because of Belgians. Go back to your own shithole parasite
holland is the real reason socialists get any electoral seats at all, while you said holland is mostly occupied with the enviroment which is not true at all
Because I m not part of your team silly
>holland is the real reason socialists get any electoral seats at all, while you said holland is mostly occupied with the enviroment which is not true at all
t. dude who never looked at an election map
CD&V has become total cucks and would willingly join a goverment with the communists, socilaists and greens/muslims parties if it means giving the finger to the NVA who is grabbling in the political money pot. The catholics = tsjevenstreken. You can't trust them, they only care about their power and money.
This. Wallonians smell worse than us, we don't want them
>he thinks Holland is just Amsterdam
pls kill self
This fucking disgusting language and these fucking disgusting people.
Nuke Belgium.
lmao it's not majority takes all. please educate yourself before you act like you know it all. and groningen is not part of the frisian area for hundreds of years
I hate this socialist hellhole so goddamn much.
Flemish work their asses off and have to concede 33% of their salaries so the government can:
>feed lazy Walloons and immigrants
>donate all reasonably priced housing to immigrants and their grandparents who never contributed a cent in taxes
>have pointless theatre in congressional meetings where nothing is accomplished
>raise their own salaries for all of their hard work
>not fix our crumbling infrastructure
>not clean up the growing ghettos in our cities
>steal more money from retirement funds so taxpayers will never see any return for the money that is being stolen from them
All of western Europe must be like this at this point. Democracy was a mistake.
there are only socialists in amsterdam. lmao all the cities in the randstad have significant leftist voting bases.
je doet waarschijnlijk toch mbo haha mongooltje
>lmao it's not majority takes all. please educate yourself before you act like you know it all. and groningen is not part of the frisian area for hundreds of years
Lmao did you get hit on the head with a ploertendoder?
nrc.nl
here's some details.
>>steal more money from retirement funds so taxpayers will never see any return for the money that is being stolen from them
This is probably the most significant political point. When the babyboomers realized that their precious pensions aren't as large as they expected, we'll end up with a /boomer/uprising
Walloonia has been post-industrial longer than anywhere on planet earth
as much as I hate the Walloon leeching those numbers are really old
>those numbers are really old
Inb4 its much worse now with all the "refugees" and migrants pouring into Flemish cities. Eventually it will be just some rural Flemish areas providing all the shekels for the bennies for all the Walloons and third worlders
They voted for free market and the invisible hand fucked them up the ass.
Serves them right.
All of the sudden, or after (((free market))) fucked them over?
WALLOON LIVES MATTER
Funny ethnic names matter.
The Walloon economy is actually growing much faster than the Flemish one at the moment, and if you don't count the literal third world shithole that is the Henegouwen and especially Charleroi the quality of live has improved a lot too in the past years.
Also their immigrants are just Italians and shit, meanwhile I live in the Limburgse kalifaat full of niggers and Moroccans
Belgium is really a failed shit hole that should be wiped off the map.
my point still stands, the votes they got out of groningen is still a fraction of their total votes which came mostly from the randstad
>the votes they got out of groningen is still a fraction of their total votes
Like with any party you absolute brainlet
Back to /r/the_netherlands you plebbitor
Yeah, good point. Food for the brain ;^), Ivan.
Anyway, I think that whites make use of everything with maximum profit, even if you put socialism/communism in USA it will be better than capitalist Russia or any African shit hole.
But its proven fact for over 150 years that poor people vote and want socialist nanny state.