Why aren’t you Catholic? Seriously!?

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Amen

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Because Vatican II quite literally kiked the Church.

Impying the Vatican 1 wasn't all homosexuals who destroyed European culture and history.

Become a traditional Catholic. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Ave Maria

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Why are you not a Christian instead of a bead fingering Mary worshipper ?

Because I woukd rather not burn in hell

Also it's spelled "c*tholic"

Which of the 30,000 Protestant sects do you think we should join ? What's the flavor of the month ?

I used to be one, then I realized all Catholics are immensely hypocritical so I left the Church, only to realize shortly after that there is no God, and that life (rather, the Universe) is simply random and arbitrary, and there really isn't a Heaven or a Hell, and there isn't a Fate pre-written for us.
I respect your beliefs, OP, just keep them to yourself.

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Oh yeah.. they all get along.. please

Send a Mormon over to a Baptists house
Or a 7th Day Adventist to a Jehovah's witness.

There is only one true church. The one founded by Jesus and not founded by man. The Holy Apostolic Catholic Church. Come back and help all be in communion instead of sperging out and creating sect # 31,001

Ave Maria

>I respect your beliefs, OP, just keep them to yourself.
Why ?
TV and media blast all day with your world view.
What % of planet earth has ever said a Hail Mary ?

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Deus Vult

>implying Protestantism is so incoherent because it's an open-minded big tent that cares about the Big Issues™ and not because it's a disjointed hodge-podge based on a total cafeteria mindset
>implying the original Pr*testants weren't autists rejecting a big tent unified Christian society because they rejected the tenets that were both traditionally inherited from the earliest days of Christianity (making up fake histories to deny this), and logical outgrowths of basic Christian tenets on the superficial level

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33 degrees of freemasonry.
its just a masonic scam. it all is.
if you want to be saved you learn personal responsibility, natural moral laws, and discipline.

fuck off with your jew scams.

because dead jew on a stick

Because I'm white

>momons and JWs are Christian

Also there are many churces that claim to be The True Church Of God^tm

I dont want to be a heretical worshipper of the Whore of Babylon.

>Also there are many churces that claim to be The True Church Of God^tm
Awesome. Who founded them ? Who set down their Doctrine ? Where do they derive their Authority from ?

>Awesome. Who founded them ?
Some retard most likely that doesn't follow Christ
>Who set down their Doctrine ?
Man. Like what Jesus rebuked the jews for
>Where do they derive their Authority from ?
Their traditions instead if what Jesus taught

The Roman Catholic Church derives its authority from St. Peter dying in that city. Why does that make sense to anyone? Jesus died in Jerusalem, so that is a less important chuch?

Do I even need to post it?

Because I'm a Seventh Day Adventist, not a blasphemous, child fucking, costume wearing, creep

On top of this Peter founded churches in other cities. Not the church in Rome

This is official catholicuck teaching, from the catechism of the Catholic church:

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

>The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day.

I'm believe muslims should be exterminated, so I cannot really in good conscience be a catholicuck.

Yeah c*tholics are complete heretics. If you don't believe the Son then you burn in hell.
John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

That's not where the Catholic Church Derives it's authority from. Jesus gave the Apostles authority.

Im not a cuck.

So all you have to do is believe in Jesus..

Damn they should have figured that out in 2000 years.

Thanks for explaining it to us.

my wife is; I'm Jewish, LOL. We were just in church this morning. Fortunately the 3 year old started cutting up so I took him outside . . . .where he promptly whipped it out and took a piss. My wife likes it. I don't give a fuck about religion.

Yes that would be apostasy

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Yes. That's what the Holy Ghost says

Where does the Holy Ghost say that ?
Is it written ? You guys believe in Sola Scriptura right ?

>Where does the Holy Ghost say that ?
John 3:36

also there is no space before a question mark

>Where does the Holy Ghost say that ?
>Is it written ?

there is no holy ghost, so it never spoke anything. Nobody ever wrote down anything but the bullshit imaginings of themselves and co-religionists.

oh yeah- spoiler.

/tips fedora

Why would I?

Gay pedo cult who tortured and killed for hundreds of years in the name of peace and love. Originally it was a trick by the kikes to destroy Rome.

Jews got their Sixty gorrilloin, popers got their 30,000. Both numbers pulled out of their asses.
And you wonder why we know you are not Christians.

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so this begs the question: are c*tholics even people?

ill consider it if the pope goes deus vult again, but as it is catholicism is cuckoldry worship of women

So this is John speaking.

James 2 (Faith and Deeds)
14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

24 Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?
26 For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead.

Life is not without a sense of irony, is it?

In all the time I ever spent on 4chin, becoming so counter-culture or contrarian to the morally righteous position has seemed to have relegated Christianity into something to be admired here. Whereas, there was once a time that all religion was looked down upon in your average Christians/Atheist scorekeeping threads.

>Culture, Science, Architecture, Philosophy etc

All of these things were claimed by the church because they existed while the church was dominant, they still exist, and are not products of the church. People want faith, purpose, and individual action-- they won't die for a pile of dusty books, for an old bitch gone in the teeth, for a botched civilization... The church is all those things in so many ways.

>science
>galileo

lets have a comparison.

most christians are too lazy and degenerate to ever be catholic. they'd rather believe that they will get into heaven if they "believe" in jesus despite living lives of sin and decadence. another thing i've notice is that most preachers are fucking retards with people skills while many of the priests at our churches actually hold advanced degrees.

user, your pic is inaccurate because it does not include Catholic contributions to music and literature: Bach, Mozart, Shakespeare. Only the best ever done in their areas.

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As he was mived by the Hily Ghost

>James 2
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>And you wonder why we know you are not Christians.
You don't know anything.
Christians are only people in Communion with the Holy See.
Not people who believe their salvation comes from a heretical Bible that was corrupted to say that you are saved through faith alone.

I used to be, the church i went to had annual trips to Israel and would praise Israel all the time, as well as raising money to bring muslim families over instead of Christian ones. Being a christcuck requires no dignity.

the protestants were the ones who gave women the freedoms to take birth control to be whores, to divorce under "certain" circumstances, and to even get abortions under "certain" circumstances. and also to be preachers. not sure what you are talking about.

Some of the protestant side I don't agree with but
>catholic: Scripture and Tradition
>Scripture
Come on you know that isn't true

>traveling
>drop in to random Catholic Church for mass
>brown priest
>40min homily about why I should give money to niggers in haiti
>had to leave early because the service went too long

I hate going to random churches, seems like any catholic chcurxh outside my corner of the state is a liberal shithole

>reading about christianity for the first time

>Jesus
>Lord
>God
>Holy Ghost
>Holy See

somebody PLEASE explain the difference to me. I thought christianity was monotheistic?

Every Bible says faith alone. Some are dhit tranlations do you can find bith in it but KJV never says you need works

Christians got along without the New Testament for at least 40 years after the death of Jesus.. WITH NO BIBLE.
Who decided what the Bible even was ? The Catholic Church in 320 AD in Hippo and in 397 AD in Carthage.
The Bible had to be creted by someones Authority. By who's authority was it put together ?
The Authority of the Bible then has to be based open the authority of the Church. and what church would that be ?
The only church that existed at the time. The Authority of the Catholic Church. Apostolic Authority. ONE HOLY AND APOSTALIC CHURCH.

Not UNTIL 1100 later and Martin Luther a single man decided to remove 7 books from the Bible and to added the word ALONE to Romans 3:28.

1520 Martin Luther leaves the Catholic Church and starts his own "Church"
by 1600 there were over 200 sects of Prodestentism.Now there are over 30,000 in the US Alone.
Each is based on the Bible alone (Sola Scriptura) and none of them have the same doctrine.
How can that be ? Why would the Holy Spirit lead some many people to differnt doctrine ?
The Doctrine of Sola Scriptura has done nothing because there is no TRADITION from the pillar and bulwark of the Truth. (1 Timothy 3:15)
The Catholic Church.

"Romans 3:28 states, "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law". Martin Luther, in his German translation of the Bible, specifically added the word "allein" (English 'alone') to Romans 3:28 -a word that is not in the original Greek.
...Luther insists on his own absolute infallibility. In defending his addition of the word "alone" to Romans 3:28, Luther railed: Thus I will have it, thus I order it, my will is reason enough.

HERESY 100%

Faith ALONE will not save you.

Actually protestants are more rightsing and against the stuff you said than catholics are

seems very gay to just decide one day to go ahead and become catholic.

Because my country is Protestant and the Pope washes the feet of invaders.

Trinity. One God made of 3 seperate beings.

Also the ((((holy)))) see is c*tholic shit, not Christian

Some spergfaggotry about the Trinity being one being yet separate personages and thus being able to tongue three assholes at once.

>>Every Bible says faith alone.

That's because Martin Luther added it to the Bible AND he took 7 books out of the Bible. 9 books if you count Revelations and James which he added back in because his congregation freaked out on him.

"Romans 3:28 states, "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law". Martin Luther, in his German translation of the Bible, specifically added the word "allein" (English 'alone') to Romans 3:28 -a word that is not in the original Greek.
...Luther insists on his own absolute infallibility. In defending his addition of the word "alone" to Romans 3:28, Luther railed: Thus I will have it, thus I order it, my will is reason enough.

HERESY 100%

Faith ALONE will not save you.

...and that is quite a problem, because it puts Luther directly at odds with both Christ and James, who teach clearly and unambiguously that obedience to the Gospel (which means WORKS, but not "of the law" (of Moses))

He then went on in his first publication to take out the book of James and Revelations. How evil is this man ? Editing god's Word ?

The Bible says what this means to him and his followers.

Revelation 22:18-19
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds ANYTHING to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

If the Catholic Church had ever removed a book of the Bible, they would have heard of it EVERY day for a 1000 years, as proof that thier Church is false. The critics would be correct in that belief. Thankfully no Pope ever added or took away from scripture like Martin Luther.
By who's authority did he do this ? Authority is Aposolistic. From Jesus to the Apostles to the Bishops and on down for over 2000 years. Unbroken.

Everything good about Catholicism is pagan.

Well James died 11 years after Christ so no not 40 years. And they didn't have scripture then so yes at that point that point they needed to go based off what someone said(the also did have the OT)but know we do have the Bible

because they lie to the world and worship false idols.

>faith alone will not save you
Yes it will

Ephesians 2:8-9King James Version (KJV)

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Makes no sense to me, but thanks for explaining

Because I'm Orthodox. Catholicism is a heresy, albeit one that the least amount of stuff wrong.

>Well James died 11 years after Christ so no not 40 years
never said anything about when James died. I said there was no Bible. No New testament for at least 40 years after Jesus died.

Sacred scripture and tradition
Written and spoken form (tradition) is what Catholics believe.

2 Thessalonians 2:15
So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by epistle of ours.

Whether Oral or Written. At a time when there was no New Testament

2 Timothy 2:2
2 And what things thou hast HEARD of me, by many witnesses, the same deliver to faithful men, which shall be able to teach others also.

Oral tradition. these people could not read. Authority to teach these people was apostalic and ORAL.

1 Corinthians 11:2
2 Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you.

Jesus wants you to maintain TRADITION. Like the Catholic Church does because it created the tradition.

1 Thessalonians 2:13
13 And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you HEARD from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers.

HEARD not read (ORAL Tradition)

Saint Paul destroys (Sola Scriptura)

Apostlic TRADITION is not condemmed in the bible.
Apostlic tradition is the retelling of the word of God.

Sunday as the Sabbath. Not in the Bible. -=Tradition from the CATHOLIC church=-
Wednesday Bible Study. Not in the Bible

Sola Scriptura is a tradition of MEN, not God

I'm not gay.

they are a paganized version of christianity controlled by luciferian pedophiles

Underrated post.

any religion that says all you need to do is confess to a pedo to be forgiven is cancer, fuck off christ fags

you forgot "diddling kids" on your picture

The Gospel says anyone who preaches a gospel contrary to the gospel of the disciples and the prophets is cursed

>But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.

>Galatians 1: 8

Catholics believe that Mary was conceived without sin and never sinned but the bible says everyone has sinned

>For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God's glorious standard.

Romans 3:23

Catholics believe that Mary is queen of heaven and the Bible NEVER says this

Catholics pray to Mary the Gospel says to only pray to God

>but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. (Philippians 4:6 )

Catholics pray to the dead the biblesays not to do this

>And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living? (Isaiah 8:19 )

>Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who Consults The Dead (Deuteronomy 18: 10 - 11)

Catholics have setup an entire hierarchy with the pope at the head like the Jews did Jesus said not to do this

>"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. And do not be called masters either, because you have one Master, the Messiah. (Matthew 23: 8 - 10)

The list goes on and on Catholicism contradicts the Gospel and is accursed

Well you don't even follow scripture either

>Ephesians 2:8-9
Where in the verse does it say alone?

You mean c*tholicfags

everything that was good about paganism became Catholic

amen

>saved through faith
>not works

>The Gospel says anyone who preaches a gospel contrary to the gospel of the disciples and the prophets is cursed


This is where Prods get it ALL wrong.
The Gospel was both written and oral. The truth is ordained through the Church who put the Bible together and decided what was scriptural and what was not. The Bible is not the pillar of the truth, the Church is.

There is NO salvation without communion.

The word that is translated into English as "church" is ἐkkλησία (ekklesia) in the original Greek, which means "the called out ones" or "the assembly of the called out ones", it does not mean your man-made Papist institution. Who are "the called out ones"? Right after Simon Peter's confession that Jesus is "the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Mt. 16:16), which is "the rock" to which Jesus refers (Mt. 16:18), Jesus says to Simon Peter:
>And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven.” (Mt. 16:17)
and elsewhere during the Bread of Life discourse, Jesus says:
>No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. (Jn. 6:44)
So "the called out ones" are the ones that God has drawn to confess that Jesus is Lord and these are the ones who will have eternal life:
>because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. (Rom. 10:9-19)
And what are the "gates of hell" (Mt. 16:18)? In the original Greek this phrase appears as πύλαι ᾅδου (pylai hadou), which more accurately translates as the "gates of Hades", that is the "gates of death". So the rock is the faith and the confession that Jesus is "the Christ, the Son of the living God", which is only possible for those whom God the Father has called out and drawn to himself ("the church"), and against these the "gates of death" will not prevail, that is, they will have eternal life.

Doesn't say through faith alone.


James 2 (Faith and Deeds)
14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.

24 Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?
26 For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead.

EVEN DEMONS have faith that Jesus is Lord.
Are they going to heaven ?

>The word that is translated into English as "church" is ἐkkλησία (ekklesia) in the original Greek, which means "the called out ones" or "the assembly of the called out ones
Amen I agree 100%

The Called out ones are the Apostles.
The Catholic Church is the ONLY Church with Apostolic Authority.

But it still says "saved through faith... not of works"

>james 2 again

vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html

>DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH
>LUMEN GENTIUM
Clearly states it is dogmatic.

Quote:
>But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.
Very clearly claims that Christians and muslims worship the same god. No way to deny it unless you resort to semantic perversions and handwaving rationalizations.

This is a heresy, and since the heresy is proclaimed dogmatically, this makes the church internally inconsistent and falsifies all claims of being the one true church.

Therefore Catholicism is a false religion QED

>But it still says "saved through faith... not of works"
Forest through the trees
Demons believe that Jesus is God. They have faith.

Are they going to heaven ?

Faith Alone does not get you to heaven,
Works alone does not get you to heaven.

Galatians 3:25-27 then Galatians 5:19-21

Galatians 3:25-27
25 But after the faith is come, we are no longer under a pedagogue.
26 For you are all the children of God by faith, in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ, have put on Christ. (They are justified and sanctified)

Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury,
20 Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects,
21 Envies, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like. Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall NOT obtain the kingdom of God.

Paul says that those who have actually become the sons of god and put on Christ (are justified and sanctified) will not inherit the kingdom of God if they commit grave sins.
Anyone who teaches otherwise is heretical.

Works means obedience to the Gospel

Wubba lubba dub dub! PICKLE RICK

Thought I am (bapt. and conf.) until I went to a church locally after a long pause, told that Jesus is back but only in our hearts, kinda ridiculed for thinking he will come back the way the Bible says, intimidated because people there know stuff about me that I never announced, realized whole neighborhood is in on something similar, no one will back me up, not even that church will help me regain normal standing anywhere since people all think I am a weirdo.

Wanted to, but it looks like I will never fit in wherever I try to get in.

Rosary seems to work for me and the other sacraments of the Church, but could that be placebo?

meh

Don't listen to the Trinitarians.
There is one God, the Father (1. Corinthians 8:6). Jesus Christ is our human Lord, the son of the one God. The holy spirit is the operational prescence of the Father, often acting through Christ.
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Watch the video

youtube.com/watch?v=RK8VwsplGR8

Trinity is real. John 1 says Jesus made the earth, Genesis 1 says God did. Also 1 John 5:7 and Genesis 1:26 are pretty damn clear.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=AhnTGg6tib4

Because catholicism and the church of christianity jesus established aren't equivalent, and peter was not "the first pope." I've read your evidence to the contrary. The difference is I actually read and understand it, instead of just assuming the "church's" interpretation of it as "evidence" is correct, which is circular reasoning. Your faith should be in Jesus, not your "church."

>The Catholic Church is the ONLY Church with Apostolic Authority.
Not even the Catholic Church believes that:
>[The Orthodox] Churches, although separated from us, possess true sacraments, above all by apostolic succession, the priesthood and the Eucharist, whereby they are linked with us in closest intimacy. Therefore some worship in common (communicatio in sacris), given suitable circumstances and the approval of Church authority, is not only possible but to be encouraged.
>UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO, Vatican II

I've watched most of his videos.
I understand the Protestant position. It is heretical.

Here's short one for you to see how the Protestant and Catholic positions differ and why.

youtube.com/watch?v=gFdujLSVL5Y

I don't care for dead ritual.

If you get all of your information about the opposing position from sources that affirm your position, you don't "understand their position."