Kizumonogatari

Why no Araragi narration?

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I was upset they skipped out on his inner monologue of him valuing his life before giving it to Kiss Shot.

Just finished Nademonogatari. Ask me anything.

Dumb stylistic choice. For how francophilistic the film pretends to be, narration would have made it much more noir.

Brief plot overview?

literally nothing about this was monogatari-tier other than the setting

How much CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT happens?

Show >>> Tell

I'm phoneposting so I can't go into much detail, but Nadeko's parents tell her to stop screwing around, graduate middle school, and get a job. Nadeko knows she would be useless in the work force and wants to have enough time to work on her manga, so Ononoki helps her make four doubles to work as her manga assistants: Shy Nadeko (Bake version), Flirty Nadeko (Nise version), Anti-Nadeko (angry Otori version), and God Nadeko. The clones run off and Nadeko has to apprehend them, with some help from Ougi and Ononoki. She faces her own self from various points in her life and comes up with clever plans to catch each of them. At the end, Gaen hires her as a specialist, which was Ononoki's plan all along.

Ononoki gets her hair cut short at a point, but it's only temporary.

Japan for some reason thinks it's haram to include narration that was present in the source material, especially when it's vital to the plot.

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After kiss-shot's glorious tits, I just couldn't focus on anything that followed. It didn't help that the rest was all talk and I've read the book twice. I'll give the movie 4/10

Sounds interesting. Did you like it?

Also Nadeko clever? Is this possible?

>Gaen hires her as a specialist

You know, I fucking hate Nadeko but I want this to be true so badly. It would honestly be the best outcome for Nadeko.

Does it mention in which regards she hires her? Is she like Episode as in an outside consultant or like Oshino/Kaiki etc when she's now studying under Gaen?

None of the narration was vital to the plot as far as kizu goes. Also show don't tell. Fuck all of you

I liked Kizu's approach but I don't want to be associated with that meme.

actually kys

>kys
When did this shit become acceptable here? Fuck off.

It was my favorite Off Season book by far.

It's not totally clear, but it sounds like Gaen just wants her to help with some beginner-level jobs.

They're monogatarifags, of course they'd use reddit memes.

is this fucking real? what the shit is that plot

neat
also a doll getting a haircut

you sure out 'eme'd them boy

Really? That's the best part
Kill yourself has been a thing since 2012 or earlier.

As for "kys" yeah that's reddit.

But to be fair, I'm a monogatarifag and I have autistic hate for Reddit.

>Nadeko becoming one of the specialists
Holy shit

It was only Ononoki who gets a haircut? Other user said Sodachi got one as well.

Oh, that's right. Sodachi does have a haircut, which she says she got when she started college.

Nadeko obviously has one too, but we've known that since Owari 3.

Well, if Gaen wanted an easy-to-manipulate pawn then she sure picked the right girl.

>and comes up with clever plans to catch each of them
>clever
This has to be fake.

It makes sense for Gaen to train Nadeko in oddity related shit.
Kaiki's makeshift fix for her god issues didn't actually cure the problem but now that she'll have to deal with oddities on the regular and have ways to deal with them, when her own shit comes back to haunt her then she'll be able to deal with it.

I'm just hoping she goes the Kaiki or Tadatsuru route since she's obviously not skilled enough to be Gaen, Oshino or Yozuru and given we've seen her drawings can be brought to life, she could use familiars like Tadatsuru.

Snake's opponent is herself from the past. Even she should be able to outsmart that.

The whole point of Nade is that Nadeko grew up and is attempting to improve herself. Let the meme go.

Just because she's trying doesn't wipe away everything that she started as. Multiple novels of her being stupid and gullible is plenty of reason for people to be skeptical that she's suddenly being clever.

>Let the meme go.

Careful reminder to all user. Please do not let the Meme go. If your local Meme stands on a roof and waves at you, be wary that your Meme is about to leave.

See the warning signs and act as soon as possible.

But we've seen her improving herself for 3 novels now, so this isn't new.

she's always been retarded

How are the commie subs for the first movie? Are they filled with memes or?

When has commie ever not been shit?

Less memes than usual, but still a couple instances. They also change a bunch of lines for no discernible reason, but don't go completely off track. So slightly better than their usual efforts.

I guess I can go with that then, thanks.

>stop screwing around, graduate middle school, and get a job
I don't remember, where Nadako's parents show to be mean or desperate for money before this point? Seems kinda silly. Unless someone put the parents up to pushing Nadeko like that.

>muh 10 minutes of Muraragi talking about Hanekawa's pantsu.

Don't add letters that don't belong. His name is Araragi.

They basically treated her like those parents who try to live vicariously through their children by dolling them up and putting them in pageants. Like Kaiki said when he talked to them, they had no desire to know her as a person. So them figuring out her true self and telling her to just go get a job isn't surprising.

Ironically, also found out by Kaiki, she still loves them, fucked up as they are. Not as fucked up as Hanekawa's stepparent or Sodachi's, but pretty fucked up

The idea is that she was always a perfectly obedient child that never gave them problems, so once they were suddenly faced with the problem of their child becoming a shut-in, they had no idea how to deal with it and just got fed up.

>Gaen hires Nadeko as a specialist

Okay. Nisio has to be trolling now hardcore. Are you telling me that both Gaen and Oshino passed up Hanekawa, who has the most talent for this shit, even upon hearing her escapades in Tsubasa Sleeping, and Nisio decides to have Nadeko get training instead?

While I like Nadeko getting some purpose, she already wanted to be a manga artist and had good talent for that.

I swear, Hanekawa is gonna accidently save the world several times and those bums still won't think to actually train her.

They probably don't think they can handle Hanekawa. Gaen in particular probably sees her as a threat.

Everyone expected Araragi and Shinobu, Hanekawa and Kanbaru to become specialists.

Maybe Nisio is just trolling everyone and making the least likely characters specialists instead for the conclusion. And then announce a sequel series.

It's more like Gaen will have Nadeko do some jobs for her. I don't Hanekawa would be willing to do what Gaen tells her to do, since they don't like each other.

Oshino also doesn't like Hanekawa and probably is completely uninterested in training people anyway.

Araragi specifically doesn't want to get too wrapped up with the supernatural. He probably won't be able to avoid it if he does have an extended lifespan, but he's going to try to be normal for as long as possible.

Spoiler user here. I'm home, so I'll post a more detailed summary. Some of it I've already posted before.

Nadeko's parents tell her to stop fucking around, graduate from middle school, and go get a job. Nadeko is troubled because that doesn't give her enough time to sharpen her manga skills, and also she knows she would be absolutely useless in the work force. Nadeko and Ononoki have been friends ever since Tsukihi Undo, and Ononoki puts forth the idea that Nadeko should draw four copies of herself and Ononoki will bring them to life to work as her manga assistants. She draws her Bake self, her Nise self, her Otori self when she flipped out on the class, and her Goddess self. As soon as they come to life, however, all of the clones fuck off, so Nadeko and Ononoki go chasing after them and capture them.

Nadeko first runs into Ougi-kun, who tells her that he just saw her going to school. When they sneak inside the school to go find her, "Flirty Nadeko" (Nise version) is there, surrounded by classmates who she's happily chatting with. To get the classmates away from her, Ougi pulls the fire alarm. After Nadeko seals Flirty Nadeko in a piece of paper, Ougi and Nadeko escape through the halls on Ougi's mountain bike.

Nadeko and Ougi split up after that, and Nadeko immediately gets word of a middle school girl running around town wearing nothing but bloomers, which she assumes is "Shy Nadeko" (Bake version). Following the rumors, she instead ends up running into Sodachi at Shirohebi Park. Sodachi is there skipping class because she's having a hard time fitting in at university. The two of them have a heartfelt conversation and Sodachi gives Nadeko some life advice.

After they go their separate ways, Nadeko gets the idea that Shy Nadeko might be headed for the Araragi's house. When she goes there, she sees that someone has already forcibly broken in. When she goes to Araragi's room, Anti-Nadeko (Otori version) is lying in wait for her and tries to murder her with a chisel. Thinking fast, Nadeko hides the magical paper under her clothes and Anti-Nadeko accidentally seals herself when she tries to stab the shit out of Nadeko.

Nadeko goes to Kita-Shirahebi Shrine next to look for God Nadeko, but instead she finds Ononoki completely dismembered. Apparently, God Nadeko used Shy Nadeko as bait and then wrecked Ononoki's shit. Nadeko helps but Ononoki back together, then they go back to Nadeko's house to regroup and strategize.

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Kizu in Canada on August 28th.

Really want to read this one. Like I said, it sounds interesting. (especially the Anti-Nadeko part)

Ononoki suggests the strategy that Nadeko use the shikigami she caught to help fight the remaining Nadekos. The original problem was that Nadeko summoned too many shikigami at once to control, but if she unseals them one at a time, it should be fine. Nadeko is reluctant, but agrees to the plan.

They leave for the final confrontation. God Nadeko is hiding out on the second floor of the town bookstore. Ononoki and Nadeko plan to get the drop on her, but Nadeko sees Shy Nadeko reading a book on the first floor and thinks it's a good chance to sneak up and seal her first. It turns out that was a trap, and the bookshelves come tumbling down to crush her. She unwittingly unseals Flirty Nadeko at the last second, who holds up the bookshelf long enough to let Nadeko get away, and then gets crushed out of existence.

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Be honest Sup Forums. How bad good it is?

Did she meet Sodachi before? (Tsukihi Undo? Sodachi Fiasco?)

Yes. She isn't an Araragi, so she doesn't have shitty memory.

When Nadeko and Ononoki get far enough up the stairs to see the second floor, they see a hundred Nadekos wearing nothing but bloomers. God Nadeko mass-produced her own shikigami by photocopying one of her drawings. The shikigami are functionally useless, but having a bunch of them as distractions makes it easier for God Nadeko to stay hidden. Ononoki tells Nadeko to come up with a plan. After working stuff out behind the scenes, Ononoki blasts a bunch of NPC Nadekos with Unlimited Rule Book (she can only use it once because she's still in bad condition) to clear the floor. Then two identical Nadekos show themselves to confront God Nadeko. God Nadeko hesitates for a moment, but then decides that if she can't tell which one is the real Nadeko, she'll just kill both. One of the NPC Nadekos then comes up from behind and seals God Nadeko in a piece of paper. The two Nadekos who were killed were decoys (Anti-Nadeko and a shikigami Anti-Nadeko drew), and the real Nadeko took off her clothes and put on bloomers to blend in with the NPC Nadekos.

>a hundred Nadekos wearing nothing but bloomers

Finally, the real Shy Nadeko is the only one left. Nadeko runs out to go track her down, having guessed where she must be, when Ougi picks her up in Araragi's Volkswagen. Ougi says he knows where she needs to go and he'll take her there. He ends up taking them to Senjougahara's apartment complex, figuring Shy Nadeko went there to go murder Gahara. Nadeko, in the style of Anti-Nadeko, calls him dumbass piece of shit motherfucker who can't do anything right.

The real place Nadeko wanted to go is Naoetsu High School. Shy Nadeko is waiting by the school gate for Araragi. Nadeko tells her this is wrong and she has to move on and stop waiting for him. Shy Nadeko cries, asking Nadeko if she forgot how much fun she had waiting for Araragi and being around him. Nadeko hugs Shy Nadeko, reassuring her that she'll fall in love with someone else eventually and feel all those feelings again one day, and then seals her in the paper.

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In the epilogue, Shinobu comes and pays Nadeko a visit by hijacking Tsukihi's shadow. She indirectly helps Nadeko test out her powers (materializing the things she draws) by ordering her to try out a bunch of things. Before Shinobu leaves, Nadeko asks her if she still thinks she "just happened to be cute," but Shinobu has no recollection of saying that in the first place. They part on somewhat awkward but no longer hostile terms.

Finally, Ononoki shows up in Nadeko's room with some news. After telling Gaen about everything that happened and how Nadeko handled the situation on her own, Gaen is interested in having Nadeko do some jobs for her. This is pretty much the perfect opportunity for Nadeko, who has no proper life skills but needs a job lined up after she graduates. Nadeko realizes that this was actually Ononoki's plan the entire time.

>when Ougi picks her up in Araragi's Volkswagen

wew

>Before Shinobu leaves, Nadeko asks her if she still thinks she "just happened to be cute," but Shinobu has no recollection of saying that in the first place. They part on somewhat awkward but no longer hostile terms.

I remember that scene in Otori. Seems like Nadeko grew up a lot. Nice conclusion for her.

Thanks for the summary user.

Watched part 1 last night, was really disappointed with the lack of narration. I was really hoping that the episode would open with the lines from the start of the book.

When is this shitty series going to finally fucking end?

>Ougi has Araragi's car

Well fuck

In two half-seasons and two third-movies, unless they do the rest.

whens the next one coming out

there are only three words in the english language to describe this movie: good fucking lord

What about in japanese

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Maybe about a year ago. Maybe you need to get on top of your shit already Sup Forums. For all the complaining about the awful constant shitposting, baiting and failed attempts at creating memes it sure doesn't seem like anybody is doing anything about it.

Seems like a pretty typical Monogatari plot that people always used to call a masterpiece before

As long as it keeps making easy effortless money it will never end same as a long running shonen manga or things like popular idol anime. It's at the point where he's managed to get so many fanatically devoted fanboys and girls that the guy could literally just write one word for 200 pages and it'd still sell the exact same amount as it always does including the adapted version. Honestly once Endless Eight got deemed acceptable and still outsold the vast majority of anime despite being 95% the same content for 4 straight volumes and Bakemonogatari became the best selling anime by average of it's decade despite all of their problems it just showed the mindset of the fanatical otaku for the whole industry to see and the writing was on the wall the way things were going to play out from 2009 onward particularly where it concerned light novel stuff. This franchise fans literally do not care what happens with the series and cast as long as they are seen to be supporting the thing they are fanatically devoted too. Like no sense of financial self-preservation, concept of value or even common sense or any sign that any real thought goes into any of this process really.

Because everyone in Japan has read the LN at this point and so you should have as well.

Do the people who bitch like this actually read it? The series has not taken a drop in quality and the later installments are some of the best ones. People aren't buying it just because they're mindlessly devoted, they're buying it because they still enjoy the characters and story. Nisio set himself up for an interesting extended universe, so I don't see why it's a problem if he wants to keep writing in it.

Kizumonogatari interview summaries: pastebin.com/Qs1HNugz

>20 days
>longer than the usual time it takes him to write a novel
What the ever loving fuck? When does Nisio sleep?

Araragi is the supernatural no matter what, ever since his bond with Kiss-shot.

Wonder what the hell MusubiMonogatari will be about.

>Ononoki's plan the entire time

Well damn

I think the lack of narration fit the tone of isolation and surrealism. It just would have been too comfy with based Araragi laying out the truth about men being the most careful on the way home from buying porn.

The gag they did for his purchase was amazing though. The movie had just the right amount of silly shit to not be intolerably aloof, like the squeaky head pat. That shit made everyone in our theater laugh.

I think that's the one thing they might have absolutely made a mistake on. It really depends on if they are going to go for a variation on the themes of the LN to go along with the tonal changes. It might work out in the end, but I'd consider it a fault if Parts 2 and 3 end up being "straight" adaptions.

>At first she wasn't confident about voicing Shinobu because she hadn't voiced many children, so she enjoyed voicing adult Kissshot, who's closer to her age.

Maaya confirmed for old hag

Are we still waiting for good subs?

>MusubiMonogatari will be about

At this point I want some Araragi as I miss him even if I got a bad feeling.

I want Deathtopia and Kissshot.

>He wanted to make the movie erotic and visceral like the light novel

Did pretty decent.

Not really

I was actually just searching for subs for this, I downloaded one and it was 1280x544 for some reason.

Wouldn't be surprised if down the line if Nisio keeps writing the LN's that Deathtopia would give Araragi a stupid name.

Preferred Sephirotic oddly.

So there's been better ones released since Commie's?

There's only one, and it's really only stylistically different (arguably the kanji conversation is worse though, imo)

Considering the amount of bullshit Araragi has been through, a silly name wouldn't be the worst.

>arguably the kanji conversation is worse though
In commie's or sephirotic's?

>implying the current userbase of Sup Forums is capable of making funny and original memes

>Shy Nadeko cries, asking Nadeko if she forgot how much fun she had waiting for Araragi and being around him. Nadeko hugs Shy Nadeko, reassuring her that she'll fall in love with someone else eventually and feel all those feelings again one day, and then seals her in the paper.
I'm proud of you snek.

>Nadeko realizes that this was actually Ononoki's plan the entire time.
Based Doll saving the day once again.

Seph and that N2's TL

Use the raw with v2 in it, and then get the .ass for seph subs.

But he's actively trying to not get too involved. He wants to go to college, get a job, and raise a family, much more than he wants to be a specialist.

squeaky headpat sound webm where

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