"Villains" who did nothing wrong

Schneizel was right. Charles wanted some selfish bullshit that abandoned his throne constantly and Lelouch was a stupid faggot who only cared about Nunnally.

Schneizel actually wanted to lead the nation and protect the world. He would have made the best leader. He was the good guy in all of this.

This man was the villain of his own show, arguably. If he had left it alone then there wouldn't have to be any bloodshed. His friends wouldn't have had to have died. So much shit went wrong because Afro needed to go out and fight.

Aizen. Dude even ended up saving the day at the end. Retard faggot Ichigo and friends didnt realise they were on the wrong side of history.

His ends did not justify the means. He was just indulging in his selfish ideals.

There is literally nothing wrong with someone who wants to be a king to indulge their own ideals and desires

Wanting to purge degeneracy and protect your daughter by any means necessary was the right thing to do.

Except for the millions of people he killed?

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Sorry, I didn't mean to intrude on your safe space.

Is it wrong to want to be king?
I mean, if you have the power to take it, and the power to hold it, and destroy all those who could oppose you, is there a reason you shouldnt - if you would be a just King, good to your people who submitted?

>Denial is not just a river in Egypt

Except, you know, nukes for everyone who displeases him.

In order to keep order among a degenerate species like the human race the looming fear of death is necessary.

That's how it should be tbqhwy pajamalam.

I wish we'd nuke a few people that displeased us...

He sees everything as 'game' though and that's fucking dangerous.

HBE was pure evil
also
>Holy
>Britannian
>Empire

He was a jobber.

Why did he whip Kanon?

All we want is justice

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he didnt do wrong coz he didnt do any shit in the first place

>Schneizel was right. Charles wanted some selfish bullshit that abandoned his throne constantly and Lelouch was a stupid faggot who only cared about Nunnally.
Not sure how you can even begin to think your judgement is good if that's your understanding of what happened.
Unless you were just making a joke.

Schneizel would turn into a tyrant later on if he won.
What Lelouch wanted to do was for people have freedom in choosing their future, not oppressed by some royalty shit.

Yeah it's called not being an ass.
There's no way you can be a good and just king if you just killed everyone who disagreed with you anyways. That's not how it works. Being a good king means listening to everyone and taking decisions most parties can be content with.

He did make illegal moves in chess, though.

Truly he was the scum of this earth.

>There is literally nothing wrong
Except all of the people he kills, societies that he tramples over, and lives he ruins in order to selfishly enforce his own ideals upon others?

>and destroy all those who could oppose you,
If you were a just king you wouldn't need to destroy anyone since no one would oppose you.

Didn't Schneizel just want to destroy the world? He planned on nuking like every big capital in the world if I remember correctly.

Iskander is a special case though, he's a romanticized depiction of Alexander. He didn't crush his enemies, he won them over. That's completely different.

How is that shit even pronounced, "Schnitzel"?

No he wanted to create a peaceful world based on state sanctionned terror. Nuking every capital was just to make his point he could nuke everyone so people better listen and do what he says.
Basically it's detterence theory but with one single player.

Something along shneisel, they pronounce it "Shunaizeru" in the original Japanese.

He didn't see anything wrong with his nukes killing a few billion people. The ending the faggot got was just hilarious. That scene alone is enough to ensure I'll vote Lelouch for God Emperor.

For real; how did they allow him to move his king into check? That's blatantly illegal.

English motherfucker, do you speak it?

He destroyed pendragon

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He wanted to scare the entire world into submission with his nukes, not destroy it.

He also destroyed kanon's boipussy

what was the reason did Sup Forums came up with to justify that move?

That's how civilizations were built. You're living comfortably on top of the success of your ancestors and the corpses of their enemies. Even today you live on the exploitation of others.

Stop being such a goddamn pansy.

Lelouche accepted the move because it's Japanese Chess

I'm not even sure you can consider him a villain
He was just a presidebt doing what he thought was best for his country
His only mistake was to pick up that fucking gun

No, he was crazy. But he did want peace, which is partly why Lelouch geassed him. He would be useful to his new world order.

Point is Charles, Schneizel, and Lelouch all had good intentions, but were all looney toons and had no business running the world. At least Lelouch realized that and offed himself.

Bullshit, he never even tried to negotiate with the aliens to avoid the likely death of everyone.

Forgot to mention, Schneizel, like his brother and father, was not really interested in ruling (I think Lelouch even noted that iirc). Like them, he was more concerned with his ideals and objectives. None of them were concerned with governance.

Don't really know how raping a 14 year old girl factors in, but sure.

She deserved it
She killed his wife
And even after that he still promised her he wouldn't kill her husband and stayed true to his words

Even picking up that gun wasn't incorrect. He did it to protect his country.
I'm not even American but I would vote the fuck out of Valentine if I had a vote.

desu senpai

If he didn't picked up the gun johnny would have abbandoned the corpse and everything would have ended good
But his lack of trust cost him his life

There was no reason to trust Johnny at that point. They had just been fighting the battle for their lives and having a back-up plan never hurt anyone.

You don't trust your enemies are going to do what is good for you or your country.

He didn't had any choice
It was either trusting him or dying all over again
The gun was too big of a gamble

At that point I think Valentine's entire motivation wasn't really "I'm going to come out of this alive" but more "I need to stop the terrorist who is going to harm my country"

Johnny was pretty much in the best position to get the corpse parts. I suspect Valentine probably planned for the Gyro proposition to fall through and he was ready to drop Johnny at the cost of himself. He was fucked anyway, he may as well have gone out protecting his country.

The guy just lost his best friend and mentor
He wasn't really thinking about fucking up the country
Plus except for his legs johnny had no reason to get the corpse so he was pretty much ok with renouncing
But valentine was too paranoid

Doesn't matter, not having the corpse in America's hands means it's an enemy who is holding them and Valentine's plan required the entire corpse.
Given he already planned for Dio to grab the corpse and place it in the vault speaks to how important the corpse is to his plan and how no-one else but America should have it.

Johnny had been through a lot, there's no reason to think he wouldn't fuck up Valentine and via it's president "America" by not giving up the corpse. Valentine's paranoia was justified given the situation he was in.

Sure his paranoia was justifies when the cripple fucked up his plan for the last two month but both were desesperate and their agreement could have worked if he didn't tried to shoot him
Nothing he did was wrong and everything was justified but my point is that he could have handled the situation better

>but my point is that he could have handled the situation better

It is only in hindsight in which we can see this. Johnny could have handled his wife's sickness better by just letting her die a natural death rather than inflicting it on his son and then getting rock stomped.

I don't think I need to explain this

Johnny was not a smart man

You know its true

He was wrong.

being meguca is suffering

>None of them were concerned with governance.
What did Scheizel want outside becoming king and ruling?

Schneizel knew that it was illegal. He did it anyways to mess with Zero.

Fuck his bishie.

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He still crushed the living shit out of his enemies.

He just broed it up with anyone who survived and was willing to bro it up,mostly other nobles, not rank and file nobodies in enemy armies.

What would Saber think of Lelouch? Can his geass override her ideals and make her ride his dick?

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>Forgot to mention, Schneizel, like his brother and father, was not really interested in ruling (I think Lelouch even noted that iirc).

No. He was not interested in flipping their cart and upsetting the status quo of the royal family lording over everyone while at the mean time he wanted to keep everyone satisfied and placated to the point that he didn't care about his own life (the chess game). It's why both Charles and Lelouch say him as the best caretaker for their schemes.

Lebron James

Prove me wrong.

I think she has a mental barrier or whatever skill, not magic resist but something like no mental interference, but I may be remembering wrong.

Yeah, that's it. I don't think any of them were fit to rule.

What, don't you whip your boyfriend when he does something wrong?

pretty sure geass counts as mystic eyes, so her magical protection would work.