Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Kayden Scott
Fuck off.
Brandon Walker
Que te den por culo catalufo hijo de puta
Xavier Adams
sage. /thread.
Connor Murphy
communism doesn't work
Daniel Diaz
Fuck off
SAGE
Henry Jones
Go feed your kids
Levi Anderson
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Jaxson Cook
rev up those choppers
Ayden Baker
Sage
Cooper Allen
brand new info gogogogo
Charles Anderson
Quality bait
Christopher Edwards
>According to the poll, 55% of Chileans regarded the 17 years of the dictatorship as either bad or very bad, while 9% said they were good or very good.
Only 9% of Chileans regard Pinochet, the #1 "alt-right" hero of all time, as a good leader. Really makes u think....
Henry Lopez
What anticommunists get worrisome at are; >anybody with a decent size (not huge) ownership of land or business is a Kulak/Bourgeois >for a society for "workers", it treats farmers like shit >a new upper class of "Red Bourgeois" is spawned via "Nomenklatura" and is treated "More" equal than actual workers >those with more skills/education are reduced to "equality of outcome" >centralized planning doesn't account for allocating resources to needed production (factory A produces oversupply of item A when needed item B is not produced enough by factory B because of limited resources) Mind y'all, I'm a brainlet that makes his living eradicating big pests from ranches/large properties and growing/selling weed. So take my post with a grain of bathsalt.
Jackson Phillips
Kek >B-But he killed political dissidents!!1!
Jonathan Ortiz
Make your choice
Kevin Carter
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Wyatt Jones
Who else only comes in these threads for
Cooper White
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Thomas Lee
not again pls
Carter Martin
He inherited the mess Allende left behind, i.e., a hyperinflation caused by mongrel economic policies.
No bonus how Allende was politically aligned.
Leo Hernandez
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Nathan Myers
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Nolan Mitchell
This is so tucking stupid. Weath != wealth, created by the two systems, relative.
When the personal financial incentive goes, people tend to sit on their ass and consequently, no fucking wealth is created.
Holy fucking shit you losers are retarded.
Luke Taylor
>right wing people >worshiping the MSM
its not bad other than that though, better than most lefty memes
are you guys actually so delusional you don't think the MSM aren't on your side for the most part? I mean they get their paychecks from the same people
Jose Davis
Comrades, why not stopping being retarded and believing in fairy tales that never worked? Join real socialism and come to the glorious social democratic effort! The best of capitalism and the best of socialism working together to make a better society for the working people.
Luis Gutierrez
>The capitalists who own the media are against capitalism Hmm, really made me think
Carson Harris
Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Starvation, the ideology of theft and envy.
Starvation is the next stage of hungry following the capitalist and the socialist stage.
What exactly is starvation according to downies:
>Starvation is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Starvation in it's full form is a stateless, classless famine that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a famine Starvation teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of famine follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually they will starve' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Communisim by Jenny Craigs weight watchers so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
yeah its almost as if international capitalism is opportunistic and isn't exclusively dedicated to any ideology other than greed and control
Nicholas Powell
So capitalism?
Jace Bailey
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Chase Scott
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Camden Bennett
for one I'm pretty sure is an edit and it was some multiple choice about degrees that were all useless, and the answer was D because it could feed a family of 4
Hunter Rodriguez
Exactly and anything that goes against their World Order of control via capitalism is put down. They have millions of brainwashed yelping lap dogs to defend their power as you can see here on Sup Forums
Ian Wright
only kids that like communism are the once who never been through it lmfao
Christian Reed
damn son
Adam Martin
WHEN POSTING ON POL ALWAYS REMEMBER
IF YOU SEE A COMMIE LOSER POSTING LIKE A BRAT
ALWAYS SAGE AND POST "KILL YOURSELF SHILL RAT"
Oliver Campbell
you unimaginably gigantic faggot, those people died because their parents chose to have children into a shitty third world country.
If they had been human, and not soulless animals, they would have refused to bring life into a shitty part of the world.
Aiden Butler
(you)
Julian Martin
>communism >feeding people Literally all commie farming systems had mass starvation, and literally 99% of food worldwide is produced in private property.
Jacob Roberts
do you honestly believe communism isn't just another control structure that they want to use?
there is no winning for the common man, but capitalism gives you a fighting chance, communism is a locked system
and don't give that bullshit about freedom because your bitch ass ideology is a literal impossibility in its "true" form, its propped up by an authoritarian regime, or it fails
or both
Josiah Taylor
Except all the people who have lived through it
Mason Rogers
Literally why I clicked the thread.
Keep up the good work.
Hudson Parker
>checks population of china i forget, does starvation increase or decrease a population?
Jaxon Ramirez
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Ryder Scott
>Kike general
Justin Harris
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Jose Martinez
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Benjamin Kelly
le epik meme XDD
Tyler Perry
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Gabriel Scott
Actually Russia had no famine after the 1940s.
David Parker
lmao
Dominic Barnes
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Jaxon Miller
KYS
Jordan Brown
>(((polls)))
Matthew Reyes
You are trolling, right? Collective farming in China was a catastrophic genocide. Now China lends property for private owners to produce and neglects too much freedom of private property, so it's still incredibly inefficient, more than 30 times less efficient than South Korean farms.
Nolan Powell
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Andrew Rogers
In communism, without a state, what prevents me and my gang of violent rapists from raiding your commune for prime commie pussy?
>In his book, Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954, I.G. Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin. >In Europe A History, British historian Norman Davies counted 50 million killed between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties. >Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, a Soviet politician and historian, estimated 35 million deaths. >In his acclaimed book The Great Terror: Stalins Purge of the Thirties, Anglo-American historian Robert Conquest said: We get a figure of 20 million dead [under Stalin], which is almost certainly too low and might require an increase of 50 percent or so. ibtimes.com/how-many-people-did-joseph-stalin-kill-1111789
Because they starved to death tens of millions of the mouths they had to feed. And still had breadlines.
Elijah Martinez
Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Commies are straight up psychotic, they don't even have the mildest contact with reality. You can't even reason with them. To them the soviet famine is contestable, even thought it was not even denied by its government like the holocaust or Armenian genocide.
Benjamin Ramirez
All reds deserve the rope
Adam Hernandez
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Nicholas Peterson
Communism ended famines in Russia. Soviet citizens ate more calories than American citizens. Breadlines formed after capitalist reforms in the late 80s. Anything else need clearing up?
Jaxson Rodriguez
china has decided very intelligently and thoughtfully that the brutality of capitalism must be endured as the first step on the path to communist ascendance.
Evan Myers
You're unfunny and condescending. Every social-ish regime was 'revisionist' because the ideology is inherently flawed. Starbucks Apple products pumpkin spice commercialism. Strip mall. Holodomor based peppy Sargon Chapo Trap House. Frankfurt School of Intersectional Astro-Black post-Austrian Economics with Anarcha-Queer Gendercrustpunk Characteristics. Monetized Keynesian bug chasing for public assistance and food coupons.
Labor isn't a virtue. Rent seekers are an expendable resource.
Aaron Robinson
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Cameron Rodriguez
Law of diminishing marginal utility says we get tired of the pussy we have at our commune after a few uses, so we would need to set out to find more pussy. Best way to do this would be violent raids, kill your men and steal the women. Without a state, who will take us to justice for killing you then kidnapping, raping, and murdering your women for our recreational desires?
Ethan Collins
B-BUT GOYS
REAL COMMUNISM HASN'T BEEN TRIED
Alexander Thomas
no one answered you the first time because this isnt the anarchism thread. still not the anarchism thread.
Aiden Barnes
>Source: dude trust me
Jaxon Torres
Utopian thinking is cool an good. I have unrealistic expectations for authoritarian governance and the lowest common denominator within society but it just sounds so reasonable and Empathetic. People deserve stuff. The same stuff. I deserve a masters degree and Porsche Cayenne S like the cool negroes on the television. Damn he's a beast dude...
Asher Roberts
Oh it has, and it was wildly successful.
Mason Nguyen
That's not how hunger works. You're probably thinking of the 1932-33 famine.
Aaron Barnes
>Zero unemployment
Yeah I guess concentrations camps aren't such a bad idea. You have so much in common with Nazis and you don't even realize it
Aiden Phillips
Communism is a cancer that must be eradicated.
Adam Baker
Communism is stateless. So we would still form our rape squads to get to your prime pussy and/or boipuccis. You haven't answered the question. I am down for communism, just as long as I know I will be able to rape women as I please without repercussions. To each according to his needs, and I need a varied array of non-consenting vagina.
The gulag shrank drastically in 1953-56 and was formally dissolved in 1960.
Jaxson Perez
just here to collect data on the current state of leftist delusions. gonna be a long year for ya pinkos. tick tock.
Jace Sanchez
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Jeremiah Gomez
>muh GDP Kekity kek
Matthew Mitchell
....ok? how is that relevant though?
Parker Moore
There's heroes on Both Sides damn Daniel. It's a good thing I adopted this wonderful, funky fresh ideology from my enlightened pragmatic high-level XKCD critical thinking and not in reaction to cringly Drumpf memes on social media platforms and my compounding non-dischargeable studen loan debt.
Dems are th' real racers.
Mason Gray
Based monkey
Hunter Foster
No you faggot, there was a mass famine precisely in the 40s.
Also, this is a good picture of the soviety collectivist farming system >In the 1980s, 3% of the land was in private plots which produced more than a quarter of the total agricultural output.[19] i.e. private plots produced somewhere around 1600% and 1100% as much as common ownership plots in 1973 and 1980. Soviet figures claimed that the Soviets produced 2025% as much as the U.S. per farmer in the 1980s en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_Soviet_Union
Basically a massive an inefficient system, saved by a tiny, tiny, percentage of free marketeers that covered all its flaws in distribution, which would otherwise be in famine territory without it.
Juan Allen
K now i know ur just larping SAGED
Gavin Jones
stage 0: the formation of a state to secure a population from mass violence and theft to allow for a market to exist
stage 1: capitalism for it's properties of dramatic growth and efficiency
stage 2: strict regulation by the state on capitalism to protect the market from feeding on itself, promoting technological innovation
stage 3: the creation of social welfare programs, preventing the exploitation of the labor market, promoting technological innovation
stage 4: a full transformation to a techno-utopian-communist state where there is no exploited labor force
Jace Peterson
>there was no famine AFTER the 1940s What I said I know there were significant issues with agriculture in the Soviet Union, but they weren't starving after 1947.
Asher Hill
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Logan Flores
>workers don't seize the means of production >now it's the state that regulates everything to death The commie fantasy is an ever-metamorphic thing. Much easier to defend a position which has no solid foundation.
Connor Sanchez
>unironically citing Mises
Joseph Howard
not an argument
Aaron Brown
At no point will the Cronus Zion Posse redistribute me into fertilizer and biochemicals. At no point will the Lord Humungus GANG decide to rattle cages or Freikorps me like Rosa. Social Security is not provided as a means of economic stimulus. Social Security is not part of a larger control structure. My imperialist occupational Pork Government is looking out for my best interests, they said so. It's more empathetic. CBS Cares. What do you mean I'm worth more to the US market economy if I am alive and spending money? Whoa nelly take a chill pill there Alex.
pepe dumb tho lol gotem btfo tbqh
Angel Gomez
Stage 0: Markets already exist because all you need to make one is something someone else wants.
Stage 1: Some people make a lot of things other people want and trade them for lots of things they themselves want.
Stage 2: Some people with not so much stuff they want and nothing other people want wonder why other people have so much more stuff than them, figure they must be robbers and kill them.
Stage 3: Full distribution of stuff among people who had less stuff. All stuff is used and not replaced because everyone who used to make stuff just got killed.
Stage 4: Lots of people starve and survivors start making stuff again, return to Stage 0.
Lincoln Nelson
Literally the only reason I click these autistic threads. Fpbp.
Nathan Campbell
capitalism is already a system in which workers can seize production (co-ops) and technological advancement itself democratizes production there is no need to "seize" production when capitalism->communism transformation naturally cedes production.
Connor Carter
>end of famines in Russia >starves millions to death >destroys individualist Cossack culture >ships people to die by the millions in catastrophically bad military commands, with a 1/2 k/d ratio while having twice the numbers >18yo little bitch in a first world country thinks it was an awesome regime because his circlejerk on reddit said so Boy, I hope a nigger beats you up in the streets.
