This is the most important current political movement

And it will become even more important in the future.

>men are dropping out of education and jobs -> less taxes
>men aren't getting married anymore -> more suicidal, barren cat ladies and less spending because like 80% of consumer spending is women using the money of their husbands
>housing market takes hits because MGTOW men are content with their 1 bedroom rentals instead of buying a 6 bedroom house with a huge lawn and a pool
>car sales are dropping
>marriage and divorce industries are taking a hit (Vegas is already panicking)

MGTOW will keep gathering mass like a snowball rolling down the hill and it will touch every nook and cranny of our societies. Everything is already crumbling and MGTOW is going to speed up the decline even more. The best part? It can't be subverted by Jews or women. It's 100% organic and decentralized. Even meme magic can't stop the onslaught.

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you fool. mgtow is meme magic...to some degree.

I'm not sure if it Will speed the colaspe but it sure as hell is not slowing it down. the colaspe is coming unless the west does a 180 degree turn and does the unthinkable, take away rights and limit state privileges.

An of course women will be most affected.

This Mgtow shit is just reverse feminism

It's still gay

It isn't tho

Just kill yourself already, Fincuck.
If you're not going to continue the human race, why live at all?

>It can't be subverted by Women

Funny. MGTOW as a idealogy literally exists to create a reduction in the available Males in society so that Women will start to change their behaviour to your benefit.

You are just as thirsty for pussy as the worst type of "nice guy" Numale. Claiming you are free from Women is a fucking joke.

PREACH FINBRAH!

Feminism:
>Yes good girl. Marriage and family is oppressive! You should focus on yourself, your hobbies, and sleeping around and having fun!
MGTOW:
>Yes good lad. Marriage and family is oppressive and will bankrupt you! You should focus on yourself, your hobbies, and sleeping around and having fun!

It's amazing how gullible people are. Especially people who claim to the aware of the Jew.

The fact that cuckservatives, women, and white nationalists can't shame MGTOWs back onto the plantation must infuriate them. Now they must resort to arguing why marriage is good for men with facts and logic, which is entertaining watching them stumble doing.

Racism and nazism. Kill muslims and gays. And everyone who against R and N.

Good Goys, start hating on white females enough to stop dating them all together! I'm sure they'll be happy with Achmed or Tyrone!

...

shit, i never knew I was part of movement, i just thought women are spoiled bitches and that I had poor social skills, but yeah, a movement.... thats the ticket

Men going their own way are just incels in denial, and I'm saying this as an incel. There's no way a man could possibly be content with being alone. People are biologically hard-wired to crave sex. In our evolutionary past, most men who were content with being alone probably didn't reproduce and pass on their genes, so most people nowadays strongly desire sex, and will be miserable and unsatisfied with their lives if they can't get any.

On the flip side, if someone came to you with a hot conservative wife, $100k job, and a 3BR 2000 sq. ft. house for less than $100k, your tune would change quickly.

You are the result of a thousand lovers going back aeons. The result of them overcoming every single disease, war, and famine thrown at them. Not continuing their legacy is an insult to them.

I would say it's a reactionary movement that spawned from feminism but I wouldn't say it's the exact opposite. MGTOW doesn't aim to subjugate women and make them second class citizens like feminism does to men.

>There's no way a man could possibly be content with being alone.

There have always been loners even when relationships and marriage were beneficial, what kind of bullshit are you spewing? This might shock you, but not every man is a slave to his biological urge to procreate. Some just want to enjoy what little time he has in this existence.

MGTOW doesn't work for younger men 40 and younger. There are enough good women around, you just have to look.

Now, for guys 45+ who just want some peace or want to focus on work, MGTOW is the friggin' bomb.

You still have fun, but you are able to explore any number of hobbies, go traveling, etc.

Telluric, plebeian world view. What OP is saying does make sense. MGTOW is like voting for a meme party. If everyone does it, the cycle will end faster.

Well, if you really think it's possible for me to be alone and enjoy life, how do you do it? I'm depressed and miserable, but if I could get rid of my desire for sex, I'd be a lot happier. How do you free yourself from your biological urge to procreate?

Feminism is based so I agree

>anti-vidya
>anti-porn
>anti-alcohol

Fucking based

You're gullible

>fascism
HAVE KIDS FOR STATE

>anti-MGTOWers
HAVE KIDS FOR SOCIETY

It’s gay until your wife cheats and you have to pay lifetime alimony.

foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/02/florida-gov-scott-vetoes-bill-that-would-end-permanent-alimony-in-state.html

There are plenty of NSFW websites for that sole purpose. You need to take the time to find yourself again before you look for a woman. Doesn't come overnight but well worth the wait.

I don't want kids simply because I don't want the responsibility. I have a gf, 3000+ sq ft house, well paying job, multiple vehicles, plenty of toys, and I don't want any of it besides the gf, of course. It's all sham and I was happier when I was flat broke.

marriage isn't oppressive, divorce / alimony / child support is. And that's actually true, unlike when feminists claim marriage is oppressive to women

You're unhappy because your life is meaningless. Children gives both men and women a purpose.

>MGTOW
Meanwhile muslims will rape all the women and keep increasing their numbers.

To sustain the welfare they will have to raise taxation to around 99%.

Someone should create a real Ancap area quickly.

Not true whatsoever, kids would complicate my life exponentially. I'm unhappy because materialism has been engrained in us since the beginning. We all need to go back to living a simpler life within our means.

>There are plenty of NSFW websites for that sole purpose. You need to take the time to find yourself again before you look for a woman.

Yeah but those only make me feel good for a couple seconds after I orgasm, after that I feel like shit again. Also, what do you mean I have to find myself? How do I do it?

>I don't want any of it besides the gf

So you're admitting that you'd be less happy, i.e. less content if you didn't have a girlfriend. This is exactly what I'm saying. It's not possible to not have a girlfriend and be happy.

Oy vey I wonder who could be behind this post.

>implying women can ever infiltrate a group that specifically excludes women

I was extremely happy when I was alone. I found activities to keep me occupied. The gf thing just kind of happened when I least expected it.

I don't know your interests, but I spent a LOT of time camping, fishing, shooting, kayaking, etc, just with my own thoughts. Eventually I learned what truly satisfied me, and learned to be truly comfortable with myself.

So what if it complicates your life? Materialism is used to fill the void of not having a family of your own.

>yes goyim show everyone you are a true aryan white man and dont reproduce

The only reason women are shit is because faggots like you are guilty of dereliction of duty. TAKE BACK WHAT IS YOURS

>Children gives both men and women a purpose.
Until your wife fucks the mailman, takes the kids away while you get 0 visitation right and forces you to pay alimony for life.

Children aren't for everyone, brother. I have wonderful nieces to spend time with if I ever need to. Kids would only further solidify being tied down, and I'm not the type to stay put.

I remember when MGTOW was just men opting out of relationships and not some political movement
IT's sad that this has happened, it was better when it was a mystery why men were dropping out of society.
Now people are puting a reason on it, and making men like me look like women hating assholes. I got divorced twice, I'm done with relationships. I don't hate women and I could give a fuck about the politics people put behind this shit. I am done with relationships for one simple reason, I never could make a relationship work. I gave up on trying and now put my energy into bettering my own life as I couldn't do it while in a relationship

XX women are sending themselves extinct

stem cell tech will allow us to create fertile XY women: male brain, female body.

It's still not a political movement.

This, it is only a response to something that is a problem in society but people don't wish to know what is driving men away to begin with because it would reveal their own flaws, so the problem never gets resolved.

it's defacto political

>gender relations have become political
>this is a gender relations movement
>this is a political movement

how about have kids for your ancestors?

Not reproducing is as degenerate, if not more so than fucking racemixing. Either way you are taking hundreds of thousands of years of ancestry and taking a huge shit on it. Coalburners and oil drillers are brainwashed retards BUT YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD FUCKING KNOW BETTER!

No, OP.

I am not into this stuff but if you do this to fight something outside yourself, you are doing it wrong.

You must love yourself and seek to improve YOU.

It's not against government or women. It's about yourself in first place.

Or I think MGTOW is about...

>The only reason women are shit is because faggots like you are guilty of dereliction of duty. TAKE BACK WHAT IS YOURS

People who blame Jews and Women for all their problems are fucking pussies who are afraid to confront the uncomfortable truth that the majority of their problems are self inflicted.

You can't get a girl? Maybe it's because you're too fucking awkward or too ugly and don't take care of your appearance.

You can't get a good job? Maybe you just aren't that smart, skill, or qualified. Maybe you should learn a fucking skill.

You can't afford a car? Maybe you need to learn to be better with your money.

Your problems are your own, the majority arise from fautls and defects in yourself, not from external forces trying to fuck you. You probably are just a shitty person and that's why shitty things happen to you. Try taking responsibility for your life and things will start to get better.

Or easier still, go online to a board full of girlless nerds who masturbate to anime and blame the kikes and niggers for all their problems and bitch about how you are going your own way. That'll fix your life.

>not having long term relationships with women is now politics
Ok.

I'm interested in reading and learning languages, but I feel like those don't truly satisfy me.

Do you Americans not get to know women before marrying them or something?
You'll regret it one day. Your girlfriend will too.

End divorce bullshit and outside interference in the process of child rearing and we will be happy to reproduce, but since that will not be fixed, men are simply thinking ahead. Males do not have the numbers to overturn a crooked system that screws them over. So unless other groups see the problem (Which they won't) this won't end

>women never change after marriage
>women never change after childbirth
>the fact that the option of her fucking you over at any time even exists is completely fine

>blaming yourself for your problems
Only pussies do that.

>VR will probably be very good in our lifetime
>AI will probably be very good in our lifetime
>Waifubots will probably be very good 100 years from now
>Artificial Womb will probably be very good 100 years from now (or even sooner)

3DPD blown the fuck out. The waifu age is upon us.

Fuck them and fuck your useless, effeminate shaming tactics.

Maybe travel is more your style. Travel to countries and learn culture and languages as you move.

Everyone else here can call me selfish if they'd like, but I'm happy with whom I've become and what I've learned on my journey. Life isn't purely about reproduction, there's so much more.

There's no right or wrong answer. Simply do what makes you happy, short of harming anyone else.

It's also political because we want to legal system changed.

They turned it into a political movement, where the fuck were you?
You'd have to be blind not to see I'm just a statistic to use against feminists, and it's tiring

I've heard it a million times. I'm approaching 40 pretty fast, no regrets.

>You can't get a girl? Maybe it's because you're too fucking awkward or too ugly and don't take care of your appearance.
>You can't get a good job? Maybe you just aren't that smart, skill, or qualified. Maybe you should learn a fucking skill.
>You can't afford a car? Maybe you need to learn to be better with your money.

Quite out touch. Those blokes are pretty much saying fuck being with some goldigger/chick/superficial relationship. And just confirmed for them their ideology and further entrenched them. Well done?

>MGTOW
>making any valid point

You know, you CAN just reject being a doormat for women without having to wear a gay label and make it a political movement, you know.

But, you may have to leave your basement to figure that part out. Good luck.

It would have a large impact but atm our demographics are fucked up because we import so many more young immigrant men than women so a few mgtows doesn't do shit all. Any young girl can find a bf or husband if she wants.

Not really. It's just that if it doesn't change I see no reason to expose myself to the risk of relationships.

And none of them had to deal with obese blue haired feminists.

Come on stop being a faggot

You probably don't have children being held hostage by the femincuck legal system but many of your brothers do

>"you just gotta be alpha bro"
>proceeds to get divorce raped till his ass bleeds

Why are we trying to explain ourselves to the others? We don't owe anyone an explanation.

Within a century, relationships between humans and machines will be common place. Those of us who are going MGTOW now are just what the market would call "early adapters". Ignore the people who call us pathetic/loser/ect. They are a vocal minority that will keep shrinking and shrinking.

You can talk to her father about if the first two things happened to her mother.
If she has a good father, the third one won't happen.
Why are you even here if you're not about continuing the white race?

I mean, I think MGTOW is degenerate but necessary, as more young men disengage from society the quicker the collapse will come, considering there is no averting disaster at this point better to speed up the process than to elongate it, quicker things fall apart the sooner we can rebuild them into something great

Indeed, Family broke up when I was young, I do not intend for that shit to be repeated with my own potential kids

Well I'd prefer if the legal system changed. But I realise advocating for that is useless (see MRAs) so I don't do it. My brothers are fucked and there's nothing they or I can do about it at the moment.

>just be alpha
Good luck.

>just find a girl who isn't a slut
There are none unless you kidnap a 14 year old.

If there wasn't risks involved, what's the fucking point?
Opting out of relationships because they are scary is kind of the cowards way out, coward.

youtube.com/watch?v=KiODc8vS31U

(((you're complicit)))

Hey guys, Sandman herrreee.

I don't like travelling, but I still live with my parents, and I'm thinking about moving out soon because I feel like they coddled me, and I don't like living with them because I don't really feel free. Even though I can do whatever I want, living at my parents' house still makes me feel like a kid. But I don't know where I'd move or what I'd do for a living.

Why would I do something that offers little to no benefit and has massive downsides and risks attached to it? The cost/benefit doesn't add up.

feminism is BASED holy fucking shit shill thinking they can have an alliance in a middle of the war.Sage

Jesus Christ man clear your notifications. Also the Muslims have that one covered.

(((fuck off)))
No seriousely. The MRAs have been trying to get the laws changed for years and it seems to be having the opposite effect if anything since the laws keep getting worse for men.

>what are artificial wombs

It doesn't matter if their points are valid or not, they will still effect society

>Artificial Womb will probably be very good 100 years from now (or even sooner)
youtube.com/watch?v=cuWUqncZgv4

Being unbound from materialism and living alone is wonderfully fulfilling

Link to these CDC studies?

I can only find one linked to HIV transfer.

Dr Shekelberg will want his cut, and your son's foreskin.

That's a great excuse.
How about making more white babies, MGTOW is a white male problem. You could go to church and find a more traditional woman, but you fucks just gave up with out even trying. What the fuck are you really afraid of?

Stem cell research will lead to fertile XY women: female body, male brain.

Can't come soon enough.

>implying
Sure a fee for the womb but when it comes to circumcision it's mostly women that decide to do it to their sons and the mother's word is final in there types of affairs.

>You could go to church and find a more traditional woman
About that... in a few words its a hit and miss to be fair with you..

>implying only white males are MGTOW
>too stupid to type MGTOW in youtube

The ones who go to church are usually the slutty ones you retard.

No we blame politicians who sell out to the feminist divorce lobby.

foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/02/florida-gov-scott-vetoes-bill-that-would-end-permanent-alimony-in-state.html

Normally I would agree with you, but the state of society is so degraded and women are so shite, that this can't possibly be any worse.
Imagine you become a father and have a daughter. When she becomes of age, you won't be allowed to teach her that marriage is good because much oppression. Nobody does it anymore, not even in East Europe.

>What the fuck are you really afraid of?
Of having my kids taken from me as well as my assets and my future income.

>not getting shot is a reverse bullet

Nice argument bub, but niggers don't count as they have always left their women to raise their baby chimps alone

>The ones who go to church are usually the slutty ones you retard.
Thats why I said its a hit and miss here Sometimes its the "chicks" fishing in the churches to catch a captain-save-a-hoe.

That's a jewish meme, propagated by the entertainment industry

Now that's the right question. Your job is now to find it.