How was the idea of secular democracy destroyed in just 25 years?
25 years ago everyone in the world "knew" that eventually everyone would end up living in an idealized American/Western European style system. Anywhere you go, you'd find wealthy and educated people working together with civic representatives for a more advanced and peaceful future. Real Star Trek shit.
Today, fucking *NOBODY* believes this. The future belongs to strongmen - Nationalists, Islamists, Communists, Oligarchs, all at each others throats struggling for control of a vast sea of impoverished, screaming retards.
Lol I got a lot of points in college pointing this book as a an example of terrible projecting and confirmation bias in academia
Seriously though what a fuckig idiot
>all of human history will and human nature will end now lol >why?? Because it’s almost the year 2000!!!
Like seriously how did anyone read that retardation and find it at all reasonable
Gabriel Diaz
>Like seriously how did anyone read that retardation and find it at all reasonable Because geopolitics were defined for the prior half century by two major competing ideologies and one of the ideologies had just shit itself and died so it was easy to assume the other one "won"
Thomas Reyes
>all of human history will and human nature will end now lol >why?? Because it’s almost the year 2000!!!
That's pretty much the pinnacle of intellectual hubris
Luis Garcia
Because the reality of the utter insanity of democracy has slowly, but surely dawned upon people, and while most people in the west still deny this, as democracy is inherent virtue to them, especially among the older generations, the subconscious understanding that this system has failed us, is rotting away confidence in it.
Personally, I have completely abandoned all ideals of democracy. Fuck democracy. It is utterly retarded method of governance, in which not only do we value the opinions of a madman as equal of a wise scholar, but we also expunge our leaders, the people who use power in our name, of all fucking responsibility for their actions. A democratic leader may fuck up tremendously, and bear zero meaningful responsibility for that fuck up, hell he might even get re-elected because in elections are not competitions of competence or ability, but that of popularity. Democracy is a system that has crippled the west, and only benefits a certain financial elite who controls our economy and media and manipulates the public opinion to suit their desires.
The sooner we unshackle ourselves from democracy, the better. We were warned about this in the past. youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s
Nathaniel Thompson
Except that isn’t true as we are still a covey debating the merits of Marxism today just he Soviet Union broke up but China was still far from what it is today North Korea was as it is now and communist regimes still were alll over Africa, south east Asia , Eastern Europe the Middle East and South America.
To make a wild conclusiol like western democratic/capitalistic societies were just going to march hand in hand towards the future required overlooking plenty of evidence to the contrary and completely forgetting that humans are still human and still compete for power, influence, money and supremacy
That’s wouldn’t stop just cause everyone became more capitalist.
And I assume that tris would continue forever when we have multiple periods of human regresssion
1500’s to 1600’s The dark ages The Greek dark ages
There are plenty of examples of more enlightened societies reverting back to barbarism
It required irrational and completely un-acidemic hubris to make such a conclusion
Colton King
That kind of post historical universalism was really the product of the intellectual dominance of neoconservatism on the American right, and post cold war hubris. How many people outside of the west actually believed in the inevitability of a unipolar global social democratic order? Foreign leaders might have payed lipservice to such ideas simply because America was the hegemonic power in the 1990s. There were alternative theories being put out at the time like the clash of civilizations by Huntington, which predicted a post ideological civilizational struggle between different blocks as globalization brought different societies into closer contact and therefore conflict.
Evan Reed
>How many people outside of the west actually believed in the inevitability of a unipolar global social democratic order? A billion+ Indians seemed pretty enamored with it, and I understand the Japanese and South Koreans are more or less "honorary Westerners"
Not to mention the celebratory atmosphere in South Africa of "embracing democracy" - and look how that turned out.
John Walker
>Democracy is a system that has crippled the west America says "Hi."
Liam Rogers
I think the main problem I have with democratic universalism is that it presumes that firstly all societies are inherently malleable and can be reshaped to politically liberal norms, while also believing that democracy is a durable form of government as opposed to something which can only survive under a certain set of social conditions (such as ethnic homogeneity and high levels of social trust)
Matthew Hughes
>25 years ago everyone in the world "knew" Who was this 'everyone?' I can't speak for others but certainly we Chinese people did not 'know' this. Nor do we 'know' this now.
What we now 'know' is that the pluralistic democracies built by the West since the 1960s suffer from severe structural defects, namely the vulnerability most voters have to emotional propaganda, and that immigration policy can be manipulated to create permanent voting blocks.
We also 'know' that if the West cannot address and correct these defects, the whole edifice is destined for complete failure and collapse. And the West is also unlikely to be able to address and correct, because of overly emotional thinking and the shriekings of the white left.
Ian Kelly
Marxists infiltrated academia and set about training generations of kids to overturn Western political structures.
Joshua Stewart
I don't think indians have signed up to that belief system at all. They have a hindu nationalist government, while japan also remains in many respects an institutionally nationalist and conservative society with a strong radical right.
Christian Miller
>How was the idea of secular democracy destroyed in just 25 years? Because it's foundationless. Without a foundation, any democracy is easy to subvert, and so Jews took over most Western governments. They used post-WW2 guilt to make themselves immune to criticism, and the Holocaust as a supreme moral shield and mandate to remake the West in their image. Democracy then stopped being about the people voting for the kind of government they want, and instead became "Let's go die for Israel" and social-engineering white people out of existence.
The shit we put up with in our modern world, our ancestors would have slaughtered tens of thousands to stop and overthrow. There used to be civil wars in Europe over taxes. TAXES. Now some heeb for the EU can get up in front of the mic and go "*Ahem*. So dese doity goys gonna haf ta mix with tens of millions ov blacks, or else!" and millions of taxpayer dollars will be poured into the state-manufactured propaganda effort to see that it happens, and no one bats an eye. They might grumble on the internet, but that's it. Self-destruction has been marketed as a great and noble act that all Western governments must undertake against their own populations, or else they're anti-Semitic racists. And the astounding thing is that millions of people actually believe that mass-cultural suicide is a great idea. It's madness.
tl;dr Jews replaced God, family, and country, with Holocaust-worship, mindless materialism, and social in-fighting.
Democracy therefore no longer has any use or meaning, just as one can't vote a virus out of their body. It enables tyranny and the illusion of protection against it.
David Sanchez
>struggling for control of a vast sea of impoverished, screaming retards.
Aiden Young
You are a nation on the decline and that is largely because of democracy, as it has allowed foreign hostile elements to corrupt you with never before seen ease from within. Your greatness was built in spite of democracy, not because of it. For most of your democratic existence, you conquered new land as you expanded westwards, industrialized and exploited the resources of a whole continent, and became tremendously wealthy in the process, while avoiding the turmoil that destroyed European infrastructure completely. You also carried a legacy of patriotic values that migated a degree of the damage the democratic system inflicted upon you, but as those values started to wane away, your nation's decline grew ever faster, and now you are in virtual free fall.
You are a fool if you think that USA will see the dawn of the next century. You will collapse, because everything that you were built upon, has been rotted to it's core. You have no unifying values, unified people, unified view of government, or in general, anything barring your hedonistic consumer culture to tie your people together. You as a people, have been reduced to cogs of the consumerist economy, that only serves the interests of the banking elites. What is an american even? Anyone apparently can be one, you even tolerate the lack of tolerance for your tolerance, as your elite classes were screeching at the mere notion of barring muslims from entering your nation.
What is an american? What are american values? What does it mean to be a citizen of USA? Why would you die for the sake of your fellow americans? What is the bond of the imagined community of USA, that ties you all together? The Constitution that has been slowly eroded away by the ever encroaching leftists?
Jonathan Foster
>America says "Hi." >that 776 get
Memeing aside, the pluralistic democracy of modern America since the civil rights movement and the 'democracy' as envisioned by the Founding Fathers are completely different beasts.
It is the original democracy which gave the vote only to successful male landowners which gave American its great success, and the pluralistic democracy which gives the vote to all the foolish and uninformed and undeserving which is crippling America.
Dominic Barnes
The US is in decline, but it's not because of Democracy. Democracy is just a system where 51% of the population controls the other 49%. You might think that consolidating power and restricting freedoms into the hands of a select few like a Socialist fuck is a good idea, until the person you despise becomes that gatekeeper.
The present system may collapse, but as long as the people are armed, and those in power want to keep their power and not get invaded by a foreign army, then the people are generally safe. I will say that if we didn't have so many guns, the US would have collapsed into niggerdom already.
Joseph Jenkins
>4 yr Bush 1 >8 yr Clinton 1 >8 Yr bush 2 >8 yr Obama 1 just do the math All combined, they destroyed the image of america overseas and within the country. Either being arrogant warmongers, or ignorant bafoons, sex addicts, etc. We command no respect. We are just a military force no one can fuck with at this point.
Caleb Watson
Because we had the luxury of thinking it. There was no consequence for not thinking it. What do you do to plan for the future when you're on top of the world and everyone's your friend? It hardly seems necessary.
Brody Myers
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Jose Bell
Bought this book can’t wait to get to it
Brandon Jones
its the final redpill
Jace Morris
Did someone say Dynasties/Aristocracies Propped up by THE international banking system?
This > all at each others throats struggling for control of a vast sea of impoverished, screaming retards happened because They took from the middle, gave to the bottom, who gave it right to the very top.
Robert Wright
Reminder that every single prediction from this book published in 2009 has come true so far.
