What do other german anons here think about the Identitäre Bewegung?

what do other german anons here think about the Identitäre Bewegung?
Are they the way forward for our movement?
Is it worth it joining them?
they seem pretty good at attracting a lot of new young people. they also have good aesthetics and are very active.
i've watched a lot of videos and interviews of them.
Martin Sellner seems that he is still cucked on the jewish question and couple of other crucial points though. they are also constantly counter-signalling the older right wing movements in germany. what is up with that? what do you guys think? is anyone here a member or knows someone who is with them?

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right wing antifa

could you elaborate on that?

come on guys. no one?

>Is it worth it joining them?
It's better than letting your country get worse I mean think about it do you actually think things are going to get better if you do nothing ?

Your politicians will never listen or do anything to help you it's now or never Krouts.

They did great on their Defend Europe mission.
They actually do stuff, instead of LARPing on TV and Facebook like the other "conservative" faggots.

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>Identitäre Bewegung
They seem resonable.

Are they white nationalists? Reading "Generation Identity" at this moment.

>what do other german anons here think about the Identitäre Bewegung?
better than nothing, jewditarians are still pretty cucky "we're totally not racist guisseeee" which is a big turn off but you take what you can get, i suppose.

their aesthetics are top notch, cant argue with that. i recently saw a sticker of theirs near my vocational college, which is the first time i saw a pro-identiarian sticker anywhere in my city

Good:
They are politically active and at least show that a young political movement, that isnt leftist, exists
Also not violent or too extreme, just some people that dont like a take over by the Islamic faith and people from the Kongo

Bad:
Cringeworthy actions and often exaggerated fedora symbolism
Also this. Its long over. Any meassured now can just prolong the suffering before the country breaks.

great stuff
that's exactly my point. they seem to be but i don't know. they try to avoid the race thing or at least use different words for it. i also noticed that a lot of their people tend to be almost like civic nationalist cucks from their youtube comments.
i'm just trying to figure out if they are the best option to join. or should i also consider other movements like "der dritte weg" or "junge nationaldemokraten"

The media is trying so hard to decry them both as nazis (without ever trying to adress their programme of course) and as incapable idiots who supposedly fail everything they try. Makes me wonder wether they were actually kinda scared of them at some point. Either way, it probably worked, haven't heard much of them lately.

They are, but only discretely. By "European", they assume people know they're talking about white people. GI's main focus is on good optics, so they try to distance themselves from skinheads and explicit neo-Nazis, although a lot of members are aware of stuff like the JQ

as i thought. yeah the aesthetics are great but for me there must be more than that.
my point is that. the fact that they are not extreme enough.
don't get me wrong i don't want a movement of party-national socialist skinheads that get drunk and are obnoxious. that just turns people off.
but look at the comrades in russia or greece. their movements are a lot more intimidating in a good way. very masculine.
the identitarians often look like a bunch of hipsters. martin sellner comes across as kind of a wuss. he is well articulate but imagine guys like him standing up to these hypermasculine shitskins.
even if we get a lot more people to join our cause. the problem is that these sandniggers are not going to leave without putting up a fight. there will be riots and confrontations.
i can't imagine guys like martin sellner being a threat to these foreign barbarians.

fucking germany lmao

Never saw them beat people for their cause.
So in that term: they are the best antifa.
I think of them positively since they deterred some ships from entering european territory by leading them back to africa.

>that's exactly my point. they seem to be but i don't know. they try to avoid the race thing or at least use different words for it. i also noticed that a lot of their people tend to be almost like civic nationalist cucks from their youtube comments.

We can't explicitly talk in racial terms because of the legal framework in our countries, so we instead use terms like "ethnocultural identity" or "youths without migrant background". For most people in our movement european ancestry is a requirement to be considered european.
The ideology basically is "europe for europeans" repackaged in normie-friendly acamedic language ("ethnopluralism", "the great exchange").

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actions speak louder than words. They have my eternal loyalty after they stopped those migrant boats. Instead of screaming ''ITS THE JEWS'' they are actually taking action.

seems convincing enough. thanks

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Sellner is also dating a mutt
I thought that identirarians were supposed to not mix with mongrels

I want to marry Alina

>this

also they are pushing the Overton Window back in the right direction.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

so everyone who is not a lefty should be happy about their actions or even support them.

>i recently saw a sticker of theirs near my vocational college
>vocational college

You have to be clear about the race stuff. If you hide it and get found it it damages your credibility forever. You just have to be honest about it. I don't think they hide it though, they just emphasise the positives of Europeans rather than denigrate other races.

They are being monitored by the Verfassungsschutz.

new vlog from a German Identitären

youtu.be/C4anR548ZGc

Nothing wrong with learning a trade, user.

>"Trust us goyim! We are the true resistance"

i see hard working men that don't look like faggots. what's the problem?
it would be suspicious if they weren't. that's a good sign.

Yeah that's why I'm hesitant on joining.

if they wouldn't be monitored they would not be a real threat to them. if so joining them would be pointless.
don't get scared because of that.

Just posting dumb finn memes m8, I went to a vocational college myself. Had to get that secondary degree somewhere to qualify for university so I just learned a trade.

your accusation is irrelevant,
it's not about if "TRUE" resistance
at the moment we need ever resistance against the left mainstream we can get.

the left and the far left does (normaly) not argue with each other, they fight together agains us all.
We need to do the same against them.

Being monitored by the VS doesn't mean anything. Even Die Linke has been mpnitored by the VS.

it's for an office job in logistics.

not like theres anything wrong with blue collar jobs.

They are funded by ex neo nazis. No outed nazi will ever amount to anything in German politics. Lowlife scum that has kept the right down for 80 years.

>ex neo nazis
CDU,SPD,FDP,Linke,Greens are full of ex nazis aka NSDAP members.
>No outed nazi will ever amount to anything in German politics.
Proven wrong.

Based Identitarians. 9/10 superior, clever guys. Hot Trad Women.

Of course they do not talk about the JQ because they do not want to get banned and thrown in jail. Priority is to shift the metapolitical window. No LARPERS.

Those weren't lowlife scum that went to hillbilly meeting in the woods though. They were men that worked for a functional state. Outed neo-nazis will never make it into a position of power and are undesirable by 95% of the voters.

I just pointed out you being wrong.
Stay mad antifa

Those guys are contributing to society bro. I know that this is a difficult concept for a finn, but in this thing called "society" where people "interact" different people do different things to make the whole shebang work better.

Looking down on the people who lets you have running water, flushable toilets, electricity, and actual houses is fucking stupid.

>They are being monitored by the Verfaschungsschutz.
Every resistance movement is monitored by the dictatorship in power.

Martin Sellner isn't cucked on anything. He just can't talk about that stuff for obvious reasons. If you join then don't go full 1488

>Martin Sellner seems that he is still cucked on the jewish question and couple of other crucial points though

You realize that he has to do PR right? And it would be illegal for him to properly address the JQ anyway. He was with neo-Nazis in his youth and their leader went to jail for 10 years for "reviving Nazism".

Anybody who calls the Identitarians civic is retarded. Theyre ethno pluralists and open about it.

lol i try.
but it should be allowed to discuss this kind of stuff internally, don't you think?

If you want to look like a mole.

Are they the "western chauvinist" types who think niggers can be european and are dedicated to protecting our decadent and degenerate cultures?

Don't. You will get kicked out if you embarrass the movement. There always government and Antifa spies to watch out for.

Act as if you're always being quoted for a HopeNotHate piece.

in the long run this issue must come up sooner or later. if the overton window is more in our favour. we can't ignore the JQ. it would be foolish.

alright