What do you think about the "Deconstruction Genre"?

What do you think about the "Deconstruction Genre"?

Can we really say that such a genre exists, or is this an oxymoron?

>nadesico isn't on the list
Shit list.

Take your reddit pic and piss off.

>Nadesico

It was an good attempt, but it didnt really change the SR formula.

And Eva somehow did by copying Gundam, Ideon, Zambot, and Devilman?

>Mentioning that darker works do not necessarily mean Deconstruction
>Then citing Madoka as an example
That's like saying Guitar Ninjas was a deconstruction. It may have been a little darker than the stereotypical fairy tale, but it read like a normal fairy tale where events like that happen normally.

It takes an entirely different look on the typical tropes of the mecha genre and follows them through according to their internal logic.

Deconstruction is always involving the copying of tropes, as it seeks to deconstruct them in the first place.

>Kill La Kill
>Reconstruction

Now, listen...

Actually, it makes sense. It was still dumb as shit.

It can't be a genre, each deconstruction work has at least something in common with the genre it's deconstructing, so they're all different from one another, unless they have a similar subject matter.

If you don't want to call it a deconstruction of the entire Magical Girl genre, then that's fine. But it actually does deconstruct several tropes present in most magical girl anime.

Examples:
>Being forced to fight monsters is all happy fun times where no one ever gets hurt.
>The power of friendship can conquer any obstacle.
>Being true to your ideals will lead to a happy ending.
>A magical creature asking you to sign a contract will always be completely benevolent with no agenda of its own.
>Trying hard enough will make everything work out alright.

Not to mention that none of the characters in Madoka are the perfect people they may seem to be at first. They all have their own traumas and insecurities that affect the way they behave.

Did Dream hunter rem already do that years before though?

Fuck that was a great read

good pic

It's a dumb buzzword people throw around when they want to make their favourite show sound cooler than it actually is. They're almost always people that don't even know anything about the genre that is supposedly being deconstructed as well.

And that image is incredibly dumb, the creator of it is a retard.

How pretentious do you have to be to say you're interested in watching genre deconstructions?

What a terrible image. Stop trying to apply academic terminology to anime, you fucking morons.

Madoka isn't a deconstruction.
Triggered.

>Stop trying to apply academic terminology to anime, you fucking morons.
Blame tvtropes.

Isekai is basically a genre at this point.

what is it then

Lots of things have. Anyone who thinks that Madoka did anything remotely groundbreaking has not actually watched magical girl shows besides maybe the Sailor Moon dub at best.

What a fascinating counterargument. Tell me more, user.

>build a gaming pc and play the Witcher. This might be your best expenditure on culture in years.

A deconstruction is taking the typical parts of the genre and showing how it'd actually work. Madoka takes the typical parts of the genre and gives them a dark explanation. Madoka functions pre-tropes, a deconstruction functions post-tropes.

How about some actual arguments to back up your claim?

>Deconstruction is a critical outlook concerned with the relationship between text and meaning. Jacques Derrida's 1967 work Of Grammatology introduced the majority of ideas influential within deconstruction. (wiki)
>a philosophical or critical method which asserts that meanings, metaphysical constructs, and hierarchical oppositions (as between key terms in a philosophical or literary work) are always rendered unstable by their dependence on ultimately arbitrary signifiers (Merriam Webster)
Neither of those two, it seems.

>m-muh Derrida

speak in english so i can understand

>m-muh tvtropes
Yes, tvtropes is my bogeyman.

ITT
>REEEE MY FAVORITE ANIMES ARE NOT ON THIS CHART

>google results
>imgur
>funnyjunk
>9gag
>lolzplace
Fascinating.

>google results
>/jp/
>depression thread
eh,

Tvtropes is where shit taste and autism go to mix together and produce some of the worst shit you will ever read.

>ohh.it is deconstruction
>must be good

buy a rope and hang yourself

>I don't like Mecha/Mahou Shoujo/Isekai but this show is not your typical Mecha/Mahou Shoujo/Isekai

I have to say, I love seeing common tropes and clichés being reworked, but I just call them "a new/alternative/interresting take on x genre" god damn deconstruction feels so pretentious and means nothing.

>SSY

Now, is SSY a genre deconstruction or not? Why is "superpower" just a trope here?
Arent "Superpowers" a genre - as in "paranormal" etc?

In my view, SSY is basically My Hero Academia done right/i.e. done realistically.
So, it should be a deconstruction of that genre.

What would Derrida say about these shows?

Masterpieces that were setting the genre and hence turn into the tropes that are to be deconstructed?

Is Sup Forums a deconstruction.

of reddit?

Of your momma's ass

HEYYOO