Trump Supporters actually defend this

Trump Supporters actually defend this

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Blame the dems trying to block obama care from being repealed and replaced. The reason her insurance is going up is not because of trump but because of obamacare. You're blaming trump for obamacare? I hope you're kidding. This is precisely the thing he wants to stop and has ranted over time and time and time again how bad that situation is.

>Blame the dems trying to block obama care from being repealed and replaced.

Are you retarded?

>blame democrats to not wanting Obamacare repealed

That's literally what you just said. Think long and hard right now.

You do know that that’s Obama’s fault, right?

>control both houses of congress and the presidency
>hurr durr blame democrats
Americans really do deserve this shit

yeah, and my paycheck hassocial security taken out. That never happened before Republicans got in office. I'm sooooo pissed. Republicans are so stupid. I hate republicans. Republicans are so stupid.
Now, here is nick nolte.

>That's literally what you just said. Think long and hard right now.
Why don't you do the same? Yes i know some republicans also do it but the fact is the reason this ladys premiums is going up is due to obamacare. Trump has talked about it so endlessly that he hates that the premiums are going up so bad and that obamacare needs to be repealed and replace so it doesn't get worse and worse. And somehow you blame trump for something that's not his fault and something he endless ranted about how bad it was that premiums were skyrocketing during his campaign aswell as when he became POTUS. I mean he's said this and spoken about this so many times.

It was designed that way, he is doing everything possible to get rid of it, shoo shoo.

wut? Insurers haven't announced their premiums for next year yet.

He literally hasn't changed anything with healthcare yet.

OBAMACARE THE DEMOCRATS MAJOR ACHIVEMENT OF OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY, THEY SHOULD BE BLAMED FOR NOT VOTING TO REPEAL IT

>going up is due to obamacare.

YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKING FAGGOT

IT'S THE REPUBLICANS HOW ARE BLOWING UP PREIUMS TRUMP AND BANNON LITERALLY SAID THEY ARE BLOWING UP PREIUMS YOU STUPID FAGGOT

MARCO RUBIO IN 2015 PUT A RIDER TO RISE PREMIUMS

>mind
>NEITHER great nor good
The typos make me think this is a bad larp.

You realize Trump is the reason why premiums are going up? The problem isn't ObamaCare, it's that Trump cut all the subsidies causing the prices to hike up.

What's funny is that trump also said endlessly during his campaign that this was bad and because of obamacare, and that he hoped obama himself would repeal it before he left office so that americans didn't have to have their premiums skyrocket even more than they already were. And trump ALSO said that they would more than likely blame the failure of obama care and rising premiums on Trump instead of themselves. and LO AND BEHOLD, EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW. Even the rino's are blocking obamacare not just the democrats, and the longer it goes the worse it gets and they hope that trump will be blamed for it. Fucking incredible. Just google trump obama care rising premiums and go watch videos about him slamming it again and again and again and again this PRECISE situation the lady is talking about.. Just wow.

(((Achievement)))

They should repeal it and replace it, otherwise they will be replaced in midterms.

Trump cut the subsidies last week. Premiums haven't even been adjusted yet. Don't you have a grenade attack to run from?

>They should repeal it and replace it, otherwise they will be replaced in midterms.

EAT SHIT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

AND REPLACE IT WITH ONE?

LET EVERYONE DIE WITHOUT HEALTHCARE

I HOPE YOU FAGGOTS LOSE IN A LANDELISE IN 2018

I WILL REPEAL AND REPLACE YOU

THIS ISN'T A FUCKING JOKE YOU

The problem is pretty much Obamacare

Insurance should never be mandatory. But rich Jewish Masters control the money supply so their desires get funding.

>You realize Trump is the reason why premiums are going up? The problem isn't ObamaCare, it's that Trump cut all the subsidies causing the prices to hike up.
The premiums were hiked up when trump was running for office and he talked about it endlessly during his rallies and how bad it was.

>Premiums haven't even been adjusted yet.

Except for the Marco Rubio rider on Obamacare that causes premiums to rise since 2015 that you haven't mentioned.

>The problem is pretty much Obamacare

Except for the Marco Rubio rider on Obamacare that causes premiums to rise since 2015 that you haven't mentioned.

John McCain the "hero" killed the repeal. It should be called McCainCare

stupid faggot. republicans control house, no excuse they can't get a repeal and a better bill. OH WAIT, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN A BETTER BILL BECAUSE THE REPUBLIKEKS WERE SITTING ON THEIR ASSES FOR 7 DAMN YEARS TELLING US THEY HAD A PLAN, AND ONLY NOW WE FIND OUT THEY WEREN'T DOING SHIT! FOR 7 YEARS! FUCK YOU YOU STUPID KEK! stop making excuses for the republicans and tell them they should have got their shit together 7 years ago.

nytimes.com/2015/12/10/us/politics/marco-rubio-obamacare-affordable-care-act.html

WASHINGTON — A little-noticed health care provision slipped into a giant spending law last year has tangled up the Obama administration, sent tremors through health insurance markets and rattled confidence in the durability of President Obama’s signature health law.
The attack stems from two years of effort by Senator Marco Rubio and others in Congress to undermine a key financing mechanism in the law. So for all the Republican talk about dismantling the Affordable Care Act, one Republican presidential hopeful has actually done something toward achieving that goal.
Mr. Rubio’s efforts against the so-called risk corridor provision of the health law have hardly risen to the forefront of the race for the Republican presidential nomination, but his plan limiting how much the government can spend to protect insurance companies against financial losses has shown the effectiveness of quiet legislative sabotage.
The risk corridors were intended to help some insurance companies if they ended up with too many new sick people on their rolls and too little cash from premiums to cover their medical bills in the first three years under the health law. But because of Mr. Rubio’s efforts, the administration says it will pay only 13 percent of what insurance companies were expecting to receive this year. The payments were supposed to help insurers cope with the risks they assumed when they decided to participate in the law’s new insurance marketplaces.
Mr. Rubio’s talking point is bumper-sticker ready. The payments, he says, are “a taxpayer-funded bailout for insurance companies.” But without them, insurers say, many consumers will face higher premiums and may have to scramble for other coverage. Already, some insurers have shut down over the unexpected shortfall.

>dems have 48% control of the senate.
>will not play ball at all as far as reforming obamacare
>republicans have a 3 senator margin of error for compromise.
>people shocked when even minor issues of compromise collapse a deal when Rand Paul alone is an obstinate fuck who won't accept anything less than full repeal

>cut all the subsidies
>prices go up

You don't know how any of this works, do you?

>doesn't realize why ins companies can hike half a grand is because they have no competition thanks to Obama care
>somehow expects costs to go down even tho repeal has been blocked numerous times in Senate

Saged

Reminder that Republican retards always vote against their own interest

you're a faggot except for the last point. I'm a pretty moderate republican (I come here for porn, suck my dick), and Rand Paul just has a "fuck you, got mine" attitude towards everything. fuck libertarians.

>stop making excuses for the republicans and tell them they should have got their shit together 7 years ago.
Where the fuck have you been, living under a rock? Trump has slammed republicans for not voting in favour of repealing this mess. And then when they finally got close to doing so, mccain the douchebag voted against repealing it at the last fucking moment.

Those subsidies were illegal and unconstitutional. Congress never appropriated the funds, Obama just declared them to be funded which he can't do. Trump is faithfully interpreting the actual law which Obama never did.

Shoo, the adults are talking.

>Trahes Trump because an Obama program is a scam>145754707

Sage

Ok so let's go over the GOP game they've played since Reagan

>don't like a government program, let's get power, put people in power to undermine that government program/agency (EPA), or enact legislation to fuck it up like Social security being capped and age requirement raised or Rubio rider on Obamacare since 2015
>SEE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WORK WE NEED FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS
>repeal government
>now you pay sky high premiums, have no protections at all, junk healthcare insurance, not preexisting conditions, Medicare and Medicaid gone

bitch aks like shes on Trump care and shit.
Fuck Government all up in your healthcare.
Tax fat people

The federal government not subsidizing private insurance companies is a bad thing now?

i don't blame mccain. it was a shit bill. doesn't excuse him, but republicans shouldn't expect things should go easy when they had 7 fucking years to do something about it. they said they would, they lied, and now we're here. republicans are just as stupid as democrats.

>"Trump has slammed republicans for not voting in favour of repealing this mess" Who fucking cares? He gave them a slap on the wrist. Where was he for 7 years? Why wasn't he telling them in TWO THOUSAND AND FUCKING TEN??? I don't care how much he's bitched about the republicans. What does that do? it's just talk.

>The federal government not subsidizing private insurance companies is a bad thing now?

So we should have NO GOVERNMENT WE SHOULD ABOLISH ALL GOVERNNENT IN HEALTHCARE WE SHOULD LIVE IN LIBERTARIAN FREE MARKET FAIRY TALE LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact that you believe Trump is interested in doing anything remotely beneficial for anyone but himself just shows how gullible you are. You people are so fucking stupid. Also, fuck this board and boards like it that have a 2000 character limit, just shows that you can't take counter-arguments so you've got to limit them. I would reply to so many more of the comments in this thread if I were able to, but because it takes so fucking long, I'm just giving up after this one. Congratulations, your tactics of wearing down opponents through attrition rather than well-reasoned arguments has succeeded. Fucking retards.
I'll throw in a few more of my thoughts from this thread.
Someone accused me of being a "shill" which I guess implies that I am at this shithole of a board in order to brigade it. I'd never subscribe to such a fucking retarded site. You're nothing but degenerates jerking each other off. Every Economics major I know is center-left, or left, and I go to a mostly right-leaning state school in a red state. Where are you getting this idea from? Do you even go to college? You people are so gullible. I'm certainly glad that people that are the type to regularly participate in this subreddit are at least smart enough to keep these idiotic and twisted ideas to places of the internet where they can say stupid shit anonymously. It's funny how I never hear any kind of crazy ass talk like this in my real life, even though I live in a state where you people should populate. Your ideas are just terrible, and you know it, which is why you keep your idiotic discourse online and anonymous. You know that if you started talking like this in the real world people would laugh their asses off at you. Fucking pizzagate pushing, Sandy Hook denying, double thinking mouth breathing incest spawn.

fuck dammit i fucked up the greentext. im too mad to do this shit. i fucking hate DC.

Who falls for the insurance Jew anyway

Trump Supporters don't need to defend it. If dems and the Repubs would have gone with his plan and this happened THEN you could have blamed Trump but they decided to stick with Obama's plan over Trumps so she is paying more because the ACA is shit and it is falling apart.

Our government already spends more on healthcare per capita than most countries that give healthcare to all of its citizens. If government were as effective as you claim, then we would already be giving everyone free care at our current spending rates.

>Trump has done nothing with Healthcare that would effect the market price
>Wow its your fucking fault asshole
What is it like being unironically stupid?

If the democrats wanted to cut a deal to trim Obamacare back and actually realize the system is fucked sideways then we'd end up with a law most people can probably get behind.

Though simple economics show trying to insure sick, fat retarded people with no income was never going to be a profitable business. The uninsured were uninsured for a reason, the insurance companies couldn't make money off them. Putting tax payers on the hook for the least healthy and least economically producing amongst us is an enormous drain, since im also paying for my healthcare on top of shaniqua and shawleens 500 lbs liposuction for the 6th time.

>ACA is shit and it is falling apart.

Cause of Republicans

But enjoy single payer under president Kamla Harris

If you Republicans hate Obamacare wait for single payer socialism

>since 2015
And that has what to do with Trump?

>Our government already spends more on healthcare

It spends 70% government, 30% government.

What Sanders style socialists like me say the 30% should also be government and abolish the private sector.

You may not realize it but you are making an argument for socialism .

>$600/month in health insurance

How is that even possible?

Hows that VA healthcare system working out? Why don't you talk about what a great model it is that we should apply everywhere?

Libtards can’t into cognitive behavior.

>And that has what to do with Trump?

Trump isn't a Republican
Trump didn't just sagatogize Obamacare, turning it into Trumpcare.

New pasta inc

Trump's healthcare hasn't even passed yet. Wtf is she talking about?

You sound Russian. I think you are a Russian troll.

>Hows that VA healthcare system working out?

I don't really understand this talking point

You are saying we should abolish the VA and vets shouldn't get healthcare?

That's what you are saying.

What I'm saying is everyone should get that healthcare. It does work. VA for the most part vets like, same with Medicare.

Look at my graph. Our government is second only to Norway in spending on healthcare. Why can't our wonderful government provide care to everyone at current spending rates if socialized medicine is the answer?

>a law not one republican in congress voted for, had any input in or wanted is their fault because its a shitty law

Of course it is.

>Trump's healthcare hasn't even passed yet. Wtf is she talking about?

But Trump is sabotaging Obamacare so he owns Trumpcare now. He enacted Trumpcare via executive fiat.

This idiot is gobbling down all the info on the Vegas shooting from the Ellen show right now.

This is DEMs fault for stopping obviously Repeal and Replace

>I don't care how much he's bitched about the republicans. What does that do? it's just talk.
I understand your rage but what the hell do you want trump to do? Unlike how the left calls him literally hitler, he's not a Dictator but a strict constitutionalist. He doesn't have authority to override the congress and the senate. All he can do is encourage people to hold these assholes accountable that refuse to repeal obamacare.
It was clear when obamacare was unfeasible and would cause insurance companies to hike up the premiums by giving them a each monopoly on each sector of the US instead of competing. They can then set the premium to whatever the fuck they want and the US citizen and companies has no choice but to fucking pay for it in that particular region. And that's exactly what the fucking insurance companies did! Don't act surprised about that!

>Trump supporters defend this
>OP picture is Trump supporter very clearly doing the OPPOSITE of defending it
???

>Niger
I see your posts all the time, and I'm curious, what are you doing there? Are you white?

Enjoy dying while waiting 2 months to see why you're pissing blood.

>Our government is second only to Norway in spending on healthcare

Are you gonna respond to this or not?

>It spends 70% government, 30% private sector

What Sanders is saying is make it 100% and get rid of the private insurance.

More Russian trolls. Go away, Russian trolls.

What he's saying is that the US government is ineffective and incompetent. Giving it more money and power won't solve anything. It already spends more on healthcare per person than every other country except Norway, and it doesn't even cover every citizen.

you already set the example when you said the senate shouldn't have 60 votes for healthcare

Learn2EnglishCuck

You're unhinged lmfao

The reason the subsidies were created in the first place is because Obamacare is the problem and not sustainable. If Hillary had gotten elected the charade would've continued so that everyone was hooked, and then single payer would've been introduced next.

>US government is ineffective and incompetent.

HMMMM LET'S VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS WHO MAKE IT THAT WAY

I WONDER FUCKING WHY THAT IS

TRUMP GETS IN AND FEMA IS A DISASTER NOT HELPING ANYONE IN TEXAS, FLORDIA AND PURETO RICO

TRUMP DESTORIES THE EPA AND OBAMACARE

EDUCATION SECETARY GETS RID OF RAPE PROTECTIONS!

Look at my graph moron. Our government alone spends more on healthcare than every other government in the world, and it doesn't provide socialized medicine. What good would adding 30% to its budget do?

go fuck yourselves LIBSHIT NIGGERS, maybe this will teach you that bongo care DOESN'T FUCKING WORK

>Our government alone spends more on healthcare than every other government in the world,

AND WHY IS THAT FAGGOT? EVERY OTHER NATION ON EARTH AS UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE OUTSIDE OF THE US

US ALREADY HAS SINGLE PAYER FOR PEOPLE OVER 65

SANDERS WANTS EVERYONE AGE 0 TO HAVE SINGLE PAYER

>blaming Trump for an Onigger bill that the GOP traitors are preventing him from repealing and replacing
almonds fully activated

Shut up Italy. Go be useless somewhere else you speghtti eating fuck

Yes I'm fucking mad at how fucking stupid Fox News watching retards are in this country

This is Tea party "GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY GOVENRMENT MEDICARE" all over again.

Just look at obamacare architect jonathan gruber essentially calling americans stupid youtube.com/watch?v=T5VbJ56VQBI they knew it was a disaster but a fucking amazing thing for insurance companies granding them each a monopoly on each region of the US and forcing people to pay for it no matter what.

The fact that you believe Bernie is interested in doing anything remotely beneficial for anyone but himself just shows how gullible you are. You people are so fucking stupid. Also, fuck this subreddit and subreddits like it that have a 2000 character limit, just shows that you can't take counter-arguments so you've got to limit them. I would reply to so many more of the comments in this thread if I were able to, but because it takes so fucking long, I'm just giving up after this one. Congratulations, your tactics of wearing down opponents through attrition rather than well-reasoned arguments has succeeded. Fucking retards.
I'll throw in a few more of my thoughts from this thread.
Someone accused me of being a "shill" which I guess implies that I am at this shithole of a subreddit in order to brigade it. I'd never subscribe to such a fucking retarded site. You're nothing but degenerates jerking each other off. Every Economics major I know is center-right, or right, and I go to a mostly left-leaning state school in a blue state. Where are you getting this idea from? Do you even go to college? You people are so gullible. I'm certainly glad that people that are the type to regularly participate in this subreddit are at least smart enough to keep these idiotic and twisted ideas to places of the internet where they can say stupid shit anonymously. It's funny how I never hear any kind of crazy ass talk like this in my real life, even though I live in a state where you people should populate. Your ideas are just terrible, and you know it, which is why you keep your idiotic discourse online and anonymous. You know that if you started talking like this in the real world people would laugh their asses off at you. Fucking marxist double thinking mouth breathing incest spawns.

Wow, she says she voted for Trump so it's real!

>drumpf, drumpf, drumpf

Healthcare spending was the same under Obongo. Our government more on healthcare per capita than governments that actually provide socialized medicine to all of its citizens.

We already spend more on healthcare than all of those countries that provide healthcare to all of its citizens. If these other systems are so great, we should be able to implement them without a single additional dollar of spending.

Attack Obamacare, but President Sanders will fuck you over with single payer if you continue this

You will regret this Trump.

you are a gigantic faggot without sauce

>russian trolls if you think obamacare is responsible for this, eventhough trump warned about it endlessly during his entire campaign.
The literal state of the left.

>trump administration is praised for its quick and effective response for texas and florida
>Puerto Rican government whines that the federal government cant wave a magic wand over their shitty island and solve all their problems

>male college students do not deserve due process
>the punishment for rape should be just getting kicked out of college (though I suppose to liberals that must seem like a death sentence. )

I hope shareblue pays you well.

>Our government more on healthcare per capita than governments that actually provide socialized medicine to all of its citizens

Yes so you are getting behind Sanders single payer healthcare

Glad to see you joined the Democratic Party.

Oh no, some obese baby boomer has to pay for being obese and making bad decisions her whole life. Poor dear.

>trump administration is praised for its quick and effective response for texas and florida

This is Texas after the cameras left.

No, blame cuckservatives for blocking everything.

You are seriously fucking retarded.
You really are. Enjoy your pity (You) for (((feeling the bern)))

>US government spends 3x more per person covered than any other government
>lets make the US government cover everyone

Great idea.

>posts some bitchs Twitter anecdote
>PROOF OF MASSIVE GUBBMENT FAILURE WHICH PRESIDENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR

>lets make the US government cover everyone

>that actually provide socialized medicine to all of its citizen

>some bitch

Sorry have you been to war zones like the West Bank like reporter Abby Martin? If not I want you to eat shit?

Thanks for correcting my record with some screencap of a tweet.

>Tax fat people
Niggers all around the country would start rioting if fat tax was implemented. Half of the sheboons in USA are overweight.