So, with precedents such as the UK jailing people for viewing things like Sup Forums, (archive.is/AUMOj) how far will it go?
Will we see online discussion of events banned? Will we see the complete destruction of political discourse? What about other things that the state may deem unacceptable? What about porn? Will we see ridiculous regulations like you can't view drawn images like hentai or loli?
How far will this go, and what can be done to ensure freedom of speech, rather than power of the state?
Isn't hate speech already outlawed in most yuropoor countries? As far as I'm aware, loli is banned in the UK too, and small breasts in Australia.
Elijah Clark
you know how it is they crack down on free speech and two weeks later the communist will ravage each other because no one can agree on what should be baned
if im not going to be jaild i'll make sure to make a livestream of the executions
Cameron Thompson
>small breasts in Australia wtf
Does this result in anarchy or more extremism bolshevik style? (Get people to betray group, destroy group, get people from the group that did that to betray, etc ad nauseum)
Josiah Rogers
Everything must be censored, THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Juan Johnson
bolshevik ofcourse don't forget that angela merkel and many other leading politicians grew up in the eastern germany under communist rule
half a year ago they had conversations about reeducation camps im hoping for some seriously delicious media war slandering and bitching, people getting arrestet and suicided, all that stuff might be hilarious
just a distant dream at this point but who knows
Zachary Long
> small breasts in AustrAlia I remember that
Nathaniel Ortiz
>half a year ago they had conversations about reeducation camps I don't remember that. Got an article, or something I can search? >arrested and suicided That's actually happening in the USA right now with all the shit going on, but it sounds bad in Germany.
I hope it's at least entertaining.
Justin King
ectr.eu/ THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL ON TOLERANCE AND RECONCILIATION = ECTR just
first seth rich now the Las vegas shooting the card house seems to colapse now
kinda hyped for the newyears massacars don't know if i should go to colone or berline for some potential habbening
John Perez
>see taiga >get reminded of my friend that used her as pfp everywhere >same friend i decided to stop talking to because gf's autism >gf left me and is now getting goldstein'd >literally converted into a kike >get here because of that >remain because tfw no gf & bro
Thanks for reminding, nigger. >loli picrelated
Robert Smith
>NTR: Netsuzou Trap (Japanese: 捏造トラップ-NTR- Hepburn: Netsuzō Torappu -NTR-, lit. "Fabricated Trap: NTR") is a yuri shōjo manga series by Kodama Naoko. The story centers around two high school girls, named Yuma and Hotaru, who each have a boyfriend but secretly cheat with each other. Yuma cannot explain the feeling she gets around Hotaru, which eventually leads her to believe that their relationship may be more than just a friendship. >NTR wew
>THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL ON TOLERANCE AND RECONCILIATION = ECTR hahaha. that's insane.
Yeah, USA is falling apart, and with it international affairs are destabilizing.
I hope you stay safe krautbro. I don't want to see you on the news, massacred and flayed.
Oliver Flores
i only leave my home for groceries so i should be fine
try not catching a dose of democracy your self, would be more worried if shitskins round here would have legal acess to guns
Ian Parker
>ex literally converted into a kike I've heard of girls going lesbian after a bad breakup, but that's a new one
Zachary Hill
ectr.eu/en-projects-and-initiatives/national-statue-for-the-promotion-of-tolerance >A EUROPEAN MODEL LAW FOR THE PROMOTION OF TOLERANCE AND THE SUPPRESSION OF INTOLERANCE >1. The European Model Law for the Promotion of Tolerance and the Suppression of Intolerance has been originally adopted in 2012 – under the sponsorship of the ECTR -by a small Group of Experts consisting of five scholars from different countries and from diverse backgrounds: Prof. Yoram Dinstein (Professor Emeritus of International Law and Human Rights, Tel Aviv University, Israel) (Chair); Dr. Ugo Gensio (retired Judge, Italian Supreme Court); Prof. Rein Mullerson (Rector, University Nord, Talinn, Estonia); Prof. Daniel Thürer (Professor Emeritus of International and European Law, University of Zurich. Switzerland); and Prof. Rȕdiger Wolfrum (Director, Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public law and International Law, Heidelberg, Germany). The original text has been revised in light of the conclusions of an international conference on Tolerance and the Law convened in Heidelberg in February 2015.
>2. The Model Law is designed for adoption by the respective national legislatures of European States. Its purpose is to fill a vacuum: although all European States are committed to the principle of tolerance, nowhere is this principle defined in binding legal terms. The principal challenge in preparing the Model Statute was to go beyond rhetoric and generalities, spelling out concrete and enforceable obligations that ensure tolerance and stamp out intolerance.
>3. On the 16th of October 2012 the ECTR has organized a public presentation of the Model Law in Brussels. The presentation included experts from EU Institutions, politicians, journalists, NGO leaders. The Model Law was presented by both Co-Chairmen of the ECTR and Prof. Yoram Dinstein, Chair of the ECTR Task Force. This is beyond insane.
user... the shitskins have access. You (probably) don't. I'm worried for you.
Luis Jones
sounds nice and comfy that whole ECTR model, right?
it's not like i couldn't go across the street to the barber shop and buy a 5shot revolver for 200euro he has on stock right now
it's easy as fuck to get your hands on a weapon it's just the legal part that would bother me
Jeremiah Gutierrez
That wasn't directly after, but I don't know. She had a german surname, but not some shit like Sheklestein, looked nothing like a jew. She told she had some german blood, but turns out it was (((german))). The fact that women would change anything and do anything just to suit their new fag is quite depressing.
>uhh thats a new lvl of bad breakup >leaf
Joseph Gonzalez
I guess a revolver will at least save your life in an emergency, hopefully you're connected with certain movements in Germany enough to have access to other weapons, should you need them. Otherwise, look into 3D printing and CNC machining, it'll give you the ability to make some nice parts, save the barrel. I guess you could make something like a Luty SMG too, provided you can find, or make bullets. Which you can make pretty effective shotgun bullets with paper, or 3D printed shells.
Jeremiah Ramirez
thanks but im more than fine in that regard got a decent amount of weapons i could build in a moderate amount of time
based /k/ showed me the way if everything's lost i just screw a pipe so a pice of plie wood and call it a shotgun
Grayson Perry
Yeah. /k/ is great.
Aaron Roberts
Communism. LGBT. Transphilia. BLM racial stirring. White genocide stuff. Feminism.
Make America 1950 Again.
Thomas Wilson
All incentive for government goons is to grow their own trade, and there are no countermanding forces to them doing so. The constitution does not limit the government - they ignore it or "interpret it" at their own whim and discretion - thinking the government is going to EVER reel itself back is the height of wishful thinking.
well it could happen if the public is so opposed to the current actions of the government to make 'em redirect the course they try to take
but there is no real evidence that this ever happened in history as far as i can tell
also why you trippin?
Ayden Baker
Don't get a traditional job. Make most of your money from the grey economy and go on welfare and take advantage of as many social programs as you can. Do your part to bankrupt the government.
Henry Brooks
This is how I see it playing out.
First they will issue curfews for minors, kicking them offline at 10pm, this already happens in Asia. Then you will have to apply through your ISP using photo ID to apply for adult access to your internet connection. The thought policing will happen to youth, they don't care about us anymore we are a lost cause.
Leo Bell
Well, if you wanna bring flags into it, it's nothing compared to your breakup back in the 90s
Michael Jackson
Yeah, I imagine they would target the youth. >muh children and all that.
Are you really Canadian? You sure you aren't an Australian with a proxy?
Owen Hernandez
The public is irrelevant to government goons unless they do something like stop paying their taxes.
Charles Walker
None you fucking retard faggot
Andrew Kelly
that's not true at all the government wouldn't want to make people angry espacially with those short ruling terms but the western civilisation got so beaten down and castrated in the last decades that they will let you do what ever you want and never speek up
that's one of the reasons you have so many welfare niggers from other country that ain't bothered by the state
Elijah Nelson
So everything is going to go swimmingly and there will be no problems or otherwise complications? I think you're the one who's retarded user, I think you're living in a fantasy.
David Garcia
>the government wouldn't want to make people angry It does that constantly. You're told how long your grass can be. You're commanded to allow state inspectors to invade your place of business on threat of violently shutting you down should you refuse. You're told what kind of fucking shingles you can use, what kind of lightbulbs you can make and sell on the market, whether you can walk across the fucking street without painted lines on the ground, what kind of education your kids can or can't have; ALL of these things are cause for anger and annoyance. But one can be as angry and annoyed as they'd like - the state doesn't care unless you DO something, and NOBODY DOES ANYTHING.
Josiah Evans
no that's totally besides the point you are trying to make sure you can argue that our laws chip away all kinds of freedoms but you can't act like it happened over night
like i said it's something that happened over the last decades and people grew accustumed to them there is no outrage because of those laws it's your personal aggresion that is rooted in those laws not the publics
either way that is one of the worse points you could have made if you think about the current state of western politics you have unvetted immigrants that are causing huge amounts of taxmoney being relocated to the disadvantage of public interests, killing rape and theft aside there are trade deals that are barely worth the cost of manufacturing the product it self growing threat of russia exploiting the european dependencys on its gas pipelines
there is a growing oposittion to the European projekt as it is and no one gives a shit about those light bulbs in the end, sure, it botherd me too but at the end of the day who really gives a shit about that? would you go out on the street protesting for some random ass light bulbs or the millions germany sends to israel each year? as an example
you make way too personal points for a topic like this
David Baker
>act like it happened over night When did I do this...?
Jace Wood
There is no precedent of the UK jailing people for "viewing things like Sup Forums".
That is a completely fucking fallacious and objectively incorrect statement to make.
Amber Rudd is a complete fucking retard who proposes laws that are unenforceable, if it can even pass with the Conservatives "majority".
But I've replied, haven't I? I've given you the (You) that was being craved.
Sad!
Nathaniel Bell
God I hate the Homeowners Association.
>you have unvetted immigrants that are causing huge amounts of taxmoney being relocated to the disadvantage of public interests Not to mention the double payoff of having to increase security and infringe on freedoms in all areas because of these faggots that the state itself brought in.
>growing threat of russia exploiting the european dependencys on its gas pipelines Which we saw with Crimea and Ukraine...
>the millions germany sends to israel each year You know, even if in some alternate universe at the time germans were some kind of horrible demon, the generation that lives now has nothing to do with it. Germans and Germany deserves better.
Read the archived link in the OP faggot. Sup Forums is "right wing propaganda" in your state's eyes.
Michael Miller
>this thread is still up Yeah. Crazy isn't it?
Aiden Nguyen
it's like someone poped up and suddenly threw some new rules down to make you suffer
you're an anarchist so i don't really know how to get leverage in this argument since you don't belive in laws >how long your grass can be there is no such law to my knowledge other than private gardening clubs >You're commanded to allow state inspectors to invade your place of buisness on threat of violently shutting you down should you refuse do you ever heard the tearm "illegal immigrant" there are people like this working in certain buisnisses and don't pay taxes a restaurant that is only letting healthtie inspectors in when it's fine is beside the point inspections of houses that are being build are extreamly important >You're told what kind of fucking shingles you can use architecture is one thing and the second is weather having shingles or roof tiles that can be griped by fast winds are a health hazzard and can not be deemed safe, unless you don't give a shit about your people >Light bulbs i disagree with that too but truth be told who gives a shit those sucker get made worse every time you buy one there are arguments about energy consumption but since, and im only talking about germany in this case, we export a ton of energy due to overproduction it is just a deal with certain industrie leaders >Weather you can walk across the fucking street without painted lines on the ground truth be told i don't give a shit about it either but this also has a certain reason to indicate frequent jaywalking at a certain part on the street making drivers more cautious and it does help to get order into the street by making people slow down >what kind of education there are certain topics you absoloutly have to teach children, yes, but if you're so apposed to them you can always file a complaint and by not giving up you eventually change the curiculum of that school for better or worse
Adam Ortiz
again those things are just minor and i doubt you have any comprehention of law or politics beyond the few random youtube videos you watch i even doubt you could explain to me what anarch-c
Noah Sanders
Uhhhh h h hh h h h
Thomas Campbell
What did he mean by this?
Kevin Fisher
>it's like someone poped up and suddenly threw some new rules down to make you suffer ??? It is? They've been harassing people for centuries.
Leo Gomez
im happy i could bait you a second time with the same strawman but the topic stands
why are those laws nonsensicel and would justify an pubplic uprising?
Sebastian Rivera
>What kind of information should be outlawed? Military and police intelligence, one's own legal privacy, probably
>So, with precedents such as the UK jailing people for viewing things like Sup Forums Why is UK full of immature people?
Adrian Allen
Probably the precedent they set. Those laws themselves aren't worth an uprising, but eventually over regulation occurs and everyone suffers for it.
Kevin Long
rip thread
Lincoln Jones
i'd agree with that, tho we germans love our regulations, it sure can be crippeling but as for the EU standarts are generally benificiall for a varioty of reasons
something like the latest EU wide enforcement of copyright law that would make each and every company responsible to have contend id algorythms on theire services no problem for google facebook twitter etc but stuff like github, slack, telegram would be killed in an instant with such a law
my point with him was that he didn't even knew why he was angry in the first place
Adam Allen
>What kind of information should be outlawed? Disinformation.
Matthew Thomas
Copyright is a major issue everywhere, and it's getting draconian. Just look at Spain and Catalonia if you want to see the future of Europe. youtube.com/watch?v=wouNL14tAks
Who decides what is disinformation?
Noah Bell
>What kind of information should be outlawed? The truth.
Alexander Ward
yeah that's pretty hilarious considering the "outrage" in ukrain
when i heard they'd go for independence i already knew that ain't gonna happen any time soon we have a EU militairy, police, and inteligence service that thing is here to stay this can not happen if you don't want to create a precedence for other states to follow
they forgot about it next week when some celebrety made a boob job or something
Lincoln Nelson
I did read it, you arrogant twat, and there's no mention of Sup Forums at all. The only reason Sup Forums COULD be banned, which it won't, is because it's right wing propaganda.
This is complete hyperbole and you have no actual evidence besides one highly opinionated article to support your contention. Fuck off.
Nathan Rogers
Well mate is the online censorship been put into place? I have seen no links to government pages stating the implementation of such an act and even so only england would be impacted by this law so all Scottish lad, welsh, northern irish lads and overseas cunts wont see any of this shit. Plus public opinion for such an act is visibly low as fuck so if it was put in the torys would most likely loose a fuck ton of voters to either labour, lib dem or ukip. This most likely wont come about up north due to everyone hearing the word internet and restrictions and screaming that they wont vote for the party again. If any britbongs can link me a government page on this I can have a gander to see if it actually impacts any other people besides the English.
pic not related
Cooper Gray
Can I get a link to a british government page detailing this new censorship stuff please. Need to know if I will get dragged to my nearest heroine den and stabbed by the SNP cabinet.
Luis Long
Yes, all of this will happen and more. I am a Traveller from the future, and in less than a decade from now, Google and Microsoft undergo a merger and produce the first learning AI by way of biological chips from rat braincells. It was given all the data on users of the internet to profile people, and then they bought out most of the world's ISPs and created the bubble-net. Custom tailored on big data, and disallowing any 'potentially unwanted' developments by shutting out users based on their history, they basically control the internet.