Developments Oct 18 Issam's body arriving to Damascus youtube.com/watch?v=isUsdC9RS3k >General Issam Zahreddine killed at Saqr Island after his convoy struck an IED >Putin, Netanyahu discuss Syria and Iran in phone conversation initiated by Israel >SAA with NDF support on verge of capturing Beit Jinn from HTS >SAA begins storming IS positions along Hamimah Road, liberating 8km and reportedly within 9km of T-2 station >2 SAA brigades from the 4th mechanized division have been moved from Hama to DeZ >ISIS has sent a large number of reinforcements to Umar oil fields in preparation of SAA's advance >Homs; SAA advances further into Qaryatayn, secure Awamid hills and Qaryatayn farms >US coalition strikes IS positions near DeZ, allegedly destroyed 2 fighting positions >Netanyahu tells Shoigu Israel will prevent Iran from establishing bases in Syria >UAE fighter jets crashes in Yemen, 2 pilots killed
Holy fuck no I just saw the news about Issam. This is worse than Grape-kun. Why is it that in history great military leaders always seem to die suddenly right before their side achieves ultimate victory?
Brayden Bell
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Oliver Morgan
>Issam dies today >thread dies today pottery
Lincoln Flores
كركوك اراضي تركيا ان شاء الله
Kayden Williams
I too want to see Constantinople returned to the Christian West. A'men brother!
Gabriel Brooks
>no kurd-held villages inaccurate
Nolan Parker
>from the State Department
Easton Gomez
after the days with >muh the war is over > /sg/ is dead >no anons here i srsly wish that rather /sg/ has died than issam
desu wouldn't you have been sadder if he died defending deir, like he wouldn't have been alive to see his comrades come out alive and the city liberated
alot of great people have inglorious ends
pompey the great, julius caesar, adolf hitler, pyrrus of epirus, patton, etc
issam knew the risks of warfare, and behind every issam and patton there's a dozen staff and 1000 soldiers who also know the risk but live in the shadow of the great man they create
historys shaped by thousands of issams shaping it
Isaac Thomas
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Fuck anyone who serves the forces of evil in Syria.
James Wright
Fuck Assad
Benjamin Brooks
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Eli Davis
>Fuck anyone who serves the forces of evil in Syria. >the forces of evil Isn't that anyone who got helped by Israel? Also, gib back Golan ASAP
Caleb Cooper
It was actually 12 minutes. Why didn't anyone bake? I left about an hour ago and check back in to see archived bread so threw this one out in a hurry. Guess it is fitting, /sg/ moment of silence for General Z.
Ryder Parker
convince me bashar and his shabiha are good people dear yahud
Bentley Collins
Can I get a quick rundown of him?
Is he the one the kurds blame? Lynching incoming?
Jaxson Barnes
>Fuck anyone who serves the forces of evil in Syria. So....you then.
Lucas Anderson
Go back to starving, faggot.
Angel Russell
I don't often post in these generals but I would just like to share an objective fact you all see to conveniently ignore.
If Assad doesn't take the area highlighted in pic related before YPG he will have no opportunity to flank them afterward and can kiss the entire north of his country goodbye. The area he took north of the Euphrates is too narrow to condense troop and attempt a credible offensive.
Also if he doesn't reclaim the oilfields in Jafra he will go bankrupt.
Jaxon Harris
i know that the opposition forces are cancer but has anyone here actually lived under bashar in the sensitive areas post war?
Zachary Morris
How do I change my flag to kike meme flag?
James Fisher
Highlighted area that Assad needs to retake or lose the North of Syria permanently.
Hunter Murphy
>Venezuela >against Syria nice proxy you got there, fagget
Mason Bailey
cute
Benjamin Peterson
or he can just pull a baghdad and wait for isis to lose to the kurds and then take it from them when their air support is retracted by the west
Connor Richardson
based
Gabriel Morales
Who will play Issam Zahredine in the inevitable upcoming film the Siege of Dier Ez zor?
Xavier Davis
Like this
Julian Peterson
>when their air support is retracted by the west Not happening
Leo Rogers
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Matthew Perez
>Not happening
Jeremiah Bailey
Or Assad can just get bombed by the US like every other time when the SAA has attacked the SDF.
David Turner
Please tell me how Assad is going to flank the Rebels if they control the entire river?
The only reason they managed to cross one river is because Isis was already overwhelmed, has a poor force and non existent defensive technology.
James Campbell
>General Issam Zahreddine killed at Saqr Island after his convoy struck an IED ..n..no..no....NO...NO..NONONONONONONO!!!! THIS CAN'T BE TRUE
Wyatt Wilson
You can't cross this is YPG is well fortified on the other side.
Aaron Harris
Well said user
Brayden Ward
>Assad won't take Aleppo >Assad won't reach Iraq >Assad won't reach Deir ez-Zor >Assad won't cross the Euphrates >Assad won't take Omar oil field and now: >Assad won't take the north Just give up and admit defeat you pathetic shills.
Jackson Parker
Gn /sg/, watch over the bakery, or let it die for the night.
Mason Lopez
Something is gonna happen, expect an oust of the "traitors" and for more radical leaders to be taking their spots. The ones that worked with Baghdad to give up Kirkuk have probably been making a shitload of money selling oil, when Turkey stopped buying they quickly sold out Kirkuk to keep the cash flowing.
Caleb Russell
>implying he won't get influence and clay back over time through diplomacy. Also Iraq showed how fiercly Kurds defend areas outside of their breeding grouds
Brody Fisher
Sorry to hear about the loss of one of your Generals, RIP.
Lincoln Anderson
kek, of course it is a deal will be made with the russians when isis is gone the course will shift supporting sdf against the saa is irrational, everyone not retarded knows it's a kurdish group. what remains of turkey's proxies will be used to fight the kurds in the north specifically ypg if turkey gets its way this will eventually include sdf as well saa's focus will shift to hts and jan who will most likely get overrun or at least they don't look good even with their khaleeji support when the dust has settled turkish proxies will make an agreement with saa and start fighting the ypg it's really up to the syrian govts (or russia's, really) stance on the matter. chances are they'll make a deal with turkey to maintain syria's rule of the north and both will most probably fight the ypg and eventually sdf it's not about if the western support ends it's more a when, because it is not sustainable and the west is aware of the issues it'll face trying to rip the north from syria into the hands of ragtag kurdish militias parading as multiethnic you must be retarded if you think the west will support sdf and ypg against both turkey and saa
Xavier Richardson
>Issam will never die >Cat Force commander will never be outed as gay
Nicholas Ortiz
Pole studying American Studies here. Today I got this e-mail >In connection with the Solidarity with Refugees Day, the American Studies Center UW invites you to a discussion on hate-speech, civic society, and the media. One of the guests is going to be a """Syrian refugee""". I was looking for some info about him and I found a video of the meeting from a year ago and of course it was a blatant """rebel""" propaganda and shilling for accepting refugees in Poland. Pic related is screenshot from the video. >civilians killed by Assad vs civilians killed by ISIS I'm really considering going there and ISIS-style blowing the place up.
Thomas Martinez
>let it die for the night. I wouldn't mind, those are moments of silence for Issam
Jaxon Gonzalez
>I'm really considering going there and ISIS-style blowing the place up. do a livestream
Eli Bailey
because you hate refugees or because you love assad?
Elijah Clark
It's funny because literally everyone is calling everyone a traitor.
I've never seen anything like this, people are basically zombies over here.
They are still in shock
Jason Garcia
Both
Benjamin Wood
All of these were against ISIS and very narrow territorial gains against poorly backed rebels.
Can you explain to me HOW THE FUCK is Assad going to assault a unified, coherent, organized, US back rebel nation in a Mountainous terrain and fortified behind large rivers?
YPG right now is 3 times stronger than ISIS at it's summit.
>shills Fuck off with that reddit buzzword
Logan Richardson
You live in Kurd area?
Kayden Williams
NEW OFFICIAL PIC OF THE THREAD
Alexander Ramirez
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Josiah Brooks
i don't get this long distance sympathy for assad is it ONLY cause he kills durkas? have you even read about the family and the syrian mokhabarat? and yes cringy syrian refugees spreading fsa propaganda instead of working to improve their lives are cancer
Jose Mitchell
>unified, coherent, organized, US back rebel nation Kirkuk showed that this is simply not the case. Just because west does back a force for fight against ISIS doesn't mean they can count on it the moment ISIS isn't the focus. If Kurds don't reasses their position immediatly they will be in a world of hurt they have no idea of yet..well taking their history into account maybe they do
Carter Flores
>a unified, coherent, organized, US back rebel nation in a Mountainous terrain and fortified behind large rivers? Gr8 b8 m8
Cameron Anderson
Did you make this thread? I'm checking Kurdish journos on Twatter but theyre all silent.
Jack Watson
This post in broken english is very difficult to follow but basically you believe that Turkey stepping in Syria is a good thing for Assad?
This will be Golan 2.0 Assad will lose at least 10% of his territory permanently.
>supporting sdf against the saa is irrational Was supporting ISIS against saa rational? Yet that's what the US openly did for 2 years.
Aiden Evans
I mean tthis thread...
Lucas Harris
>long distance sympathy for assad based on the alternatives he is a rational choice to suppport
Liam Price
Yeah
Easton Cooper
I don't think we agree what openly means
Benjamin Reyes
what is going on in kirkuk now? take the kurds the city back?
Dylan Gonzalez
it's not broken, you're just illiterate. >Was supporting ISIS against saa rational? Yet that's what the US openly did for 2 years. Openly? sauce? The Turks will figure it out with the Russians and it will not be in the Kurds' favour. Bashar will have to accept the results of said negotiations. End of story, Xinping.
Nathan Morales
>Leaf >not being a cuck for 5 seconds.
Landon Anderson
Yess No
Jack Sullivan
I'll assume you meant my post.
So what did you mean with "zombies"? They are demoralized or ferociously devouring each other? Is the mood down or enraged?
Julian Taylor
You really think the US helped the YPG and SDF because a muslim shot up a bunch of fags in a nightclub?
Enjoy having your delusions shattered in a few weeks.
Noah Sullivan
Who should I support? Syria will be stable only with Assad in power.
Mason Scott
Demoralized, in shock, quiet, Sub zero morale. They don't even care about Independence anymore, they just want this to end
Isaiah Roberts
The plague has been ousted and wont be returning. The Iraqi army has every advantage seeing as they left the city. Neither urban warfare nor guerilla tactics will benefit them in an assault as the Iraqis will be the defenders this time around. Whatever way you look at it, the moment they left, their chances of keeping the city anytime in the future vanished. I'm not saying you're in the wrong for leaning towards stability under Bashar, just wondering why the appraisal for a killer.
Carter Reed
>Kurds >Do anything without US airforce
Did you even see what happened in Iraq? Peshmerga are literally the new usain bolt, they are ready for the olimpics.
Blake Gonzalez
Hillary and Obama ran programs to arm all the rebel factions fighting Assad. This isn't something Trump unclassified a week ago, we were already talking about it in 2014. The policy wasn't top secret it was just poorly disguised and the media never picked it up.
Regardless of the 'openly' argument the US is bent on supporting those who want to overthrow Assad because that's what Israel wants. And Trump is OPENLY a Zionist. They're not taking their support away, at best they will enforce a permanent ceasefire that Turkey might break to seize the place for themselves.
Brayden Jones
There's nothing wrong with killing jihadis man
Daniel Wright
>They don't even care about Independence anymore, they just want this to end Oh wow haha. Well I guess this might be the best for all. Better shattered spirits than shattered bodies.
Stay safe man
Dylan Moore
Kurds are great ground fighters but without SDF they would lack the advanced support and weaponry the US provides.
That's why they're losing in Irak. But it will remain limited to Irak alone.
Jaxon Martinez
US is not a monolith, their motivation for supporting groups does not come from an elaborate long term strategy. They often arm both sides of a conflict or arm and train groups they have to fight later. So shove your 4D underwater US foreign policy up where Kurdistan exists
Jason Watson
What gave the Kurds the balls to do what they're doing?
Daniel Kelly
kek
Parker Sullivan
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Juan Sullivan
Support of Great Satan. Which won't come. Not that's a bad thing...
Sebastian Parker
PFFFFFFTAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Samuel Morris
everyone saw this thread? lotta shilling going on there
Noah Gomez
There is no way that kurds can stop serious divison of the Syrian army such as the 4º division or tiger forces without masive US airstrikes.
And probably NDF can hold qamishili until they come.
Zachary Adams
Going outside of /sg/ is like entering reddit. No, thank you.
They think Uncle Sam, that is America, will come to their aid. Oh how naive...
Jaxson Cook
Good So you're incapable of differentiating between the opposition groups and ISIS? The CIA has been arming Al-Qaeda's wing (JaN) in Syria. ISIS is a stretch. Though the former is actually much worse given the U.S stance on 9/11. >They're not taking their support away, at best they will enforce a permanent ceasefire that Turkey might break to seize the place for themselves. Turkey has no interest in annexing Syrian land, the administration is not a stranger to the region and knows that with it, trouble comes. It is much more in Turkey's interest to have safe-zones where they can ship Syrian's to, making TSK's presence in bigger cities more southwards a possible scenario, but it wont be a permanent one, and if it doesn't somehow include crippling the Kurdish groups, it's not going to happen. Occupying and maintaining a city (a village really) at the size of Al-Bab alone has proven very expensive. Further, the Erdogan is already losing support because of his Syrian adventures. His "split" voters will most definitely look for alternative parties should he start occupying Arab land without a good reason.
The only convincing way for him to do this would be to use YPG's presence in North Syria as the main motive.
Another, perhaps less likely event is that should he win the 2019 elections, he'll have consolidated so much power through the presidential system (which kicks in then), that he can openly not give a shit about what the Turkish voters think. You think all the civies that were slaughtered since Hafez and also during the years before the revolt were unruly Jihadis in disguise? I know the barrel bomb has been meme'd to death and that a lot of bullshit is being spread by FSA propagandists but don't let it cloud your judgement. I invite you to read about the Assad family. Do check out Maher Al-Assad in this context. There are no good guys in Syria.
