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*defenses this*

>move government
>more wealth disparity
makes sense

Attack it, commie faggot. While you're at it make a case for while commie faggots like you shouldn't be in the grave.

How much do you think the US Government owns?

The top 10% got all the shitty, useless land?

The 1% run the businesses that employ the rest. It's just the way things are, people are going to be ahead of you in life.

if you divided the nation up by property value you'd find this map is already the case.

Why do democrats pretend like theyre going to tax the rich then take all the money from people making 100-500k a year? the 1% is making over 10million?

This is actually a clever representation, at face value that is.

Well that is correct.

this looks like a great fantasy, where 90% get to hunt down the spread out top percents, but of course they're fed with the idea that they're chosen

don't attack the 1% you anti-Semite

Communists need to fucking disappear

Incorrect. It fails to account for land the US government owns.

>picrelated
This is funny because red also equals jews

People act like money is sitting useless in a bank. The Top 1% have their money invested into something. Assets, land, stocks. It's still helping the economy.

bigthink.com/strange-maps/291-federal-lands-in-the-us
28% according to this.

>useless

Fucking retarded costal faggots will be first to the gulag.

Well we already knew the 1% owns the shithole cuck areas like Commiefornia, Oregon, & Washithole (aka Seattle)

Your point, faggot?

Sounds about right.

12% percent of Americans should own this

cd \pol\arguments_faggot_op

kek

actually this map isn't far off from the actual truth. You see most of the land in the western half of the U.S.A. is federally owned land. Nevada is a state where 90% of the land is owned by the U.S. government.

Communists/Socialists have got to be the dumbest people because they they don't understand the more complex forms of government that have comprised history and still do. They are the intellectual equivalent of a child in most cases. Currently, our country is a plutocracy. Not a democracy, not a republic, but a plutocracy. And the chief among them is the U.S. government.

Changing the tax rates won't help because the rich already OWN all of the money. Whatever they are taxed on isn't what they already own but whatever they earn from that point on. Most companies have moved their headquarters to different countries for tax purposes. Even if they operate in the U.S. their headquarters and thus their residency for tax purposes has been selected to be whatever country has given them the most tax breaks and free benefits.

The only person left to attack for Communists and Socialists is their fellow slaves, which must entertain the plutarch's to no end because it's basically the dyed-hair and pierced coffee house / musician / bartender slaves attacking the other slave drones. Nobody important is being attacked and it opens up a window for law firms to fleece people, cities, and organizations of money via lawsuits.

Liberals are dumb as fuck always. I don't even want to reason with them because it's a waste of time. If it took you a day to make a sandwich you'd never make a sandwich. And the next time you got hungry it'd take another day. That's what it's like trying to redpill commies. What the point and then what's even the value of it. They are just as poor but probably poorer than you and even 100 of you combined don't have the power or money to go against the legal powers of even a single Plutarch.

so what do you propose? leaving it as it is?

Not at all. You have to look at the nature of imperial powers as they grow in size and their economic resource demands. All imperial powers collapse because of the nature of resource demands and the social decadence and following decay that comes with it. When the Roman empire had what you might consider an East and West it was Constantinople that was the reformed version. As they noted with the decline of Rome proper that it was the government itself that become the vehicle for social corruption and decadence in the form of programs, expenses, workers, armies, plutarchs, oligarchs, nobles, etc. Only with a radical shrinking of government was Constantinople able to save itself from the rapid decay that befell Rome.

Armies had to be scaled back, government support/programs all kinds of things. And responsibility had to be given back to the people. A government is a central hub of the populace not a cloak that stretches over the whole and coddles and carries people. For it do so robs the very people the government is supposed to be the central hub of.

We've never seen a government this massive in all of human history. The United States is a global empire even though it is declining it still wields insane massive military power. The problem is that the Military Industrial Complex is the Shadow Government and that's why 50% of spending is on the Military. You would have to first cut military spending by 25% and then you would have to return USA to an Isolationist country. The same way the Constantinople roman empire scaled back its forces from outlying lands we would have to do so globally.

Then we would need to massive scale back congress, and the senate. Welfare programs, immigration programs and basically close the fucking doors and scrub the floors. The states would have to be given more power. If certain states wielded too much power they would need to be removed and treated as a foreign nation especially if their ideals were too radical.

>Gets absolutely destroyed
>Doesn't acknowledge it, and immediately deflects

This is evil, agreed. I would rather 1% to own the east coast, those states are better then that sack of shit they get on the right.... the rest seems fine.

Where did Hawaii and Alaska go?

>so what do you propose
As if there was a problem to propose a solution to. Retarded fucking communists.
Smart man here on the call out.

The only way to defeat this is to make sure nobody owns anything.

>We've never seen a government this massive in all of human history.

"the government" by which you mean social programs was much more "bigger" after the New Deal and the Great Society program of the 60's - the wealth disparity was much lesser then it is now back then

>The states would have to be given more power.

what do you mean by this?

It looks right, the poorest 90% would own the areas closest to South America. Nothing wrong with the picture.

the problem with the United States right now is that nobody is looking at history for their plans and ideas they are all looking at their own ego and back room deals and bribes as well as the being under the heel of the Jewish lobbying powers. Jews and the Military Industrial Complex are the two biggest problems that prohibit any kind of real reform and real positive changes in our country.

Israel has a ton of ties to the Military corporations that produce munitions and military vehicles. They are best buds for the most part. I would even say that Israel and the Military Industrial Complex could give a shit what the U.S. does or what happens as long as they get their 50-55% funding every year and as long as Israel gets it arms deals along with the drug trade which is hilariously a black budget arm of the Military Industrial Complex and has been for decades and decades. This is all public, none of this is classified but its so effectively crushed in any media outlet because people who report on this sort of thing end up missing or suicided with a double tap to the chest and a bullet to the head. Of course they don't give a shit about anonymous people reporting on any of this because it can brushed off as conspiracy madness and they are the very people who created that tactic going back to the whole Roswell shit and further back.

>\pol\
>not Sup Forums
you're on the internet, speak unix, faggot.

> what do you mean by this?

Our government has been federalizing almost everything for quite some time now. America was never as federalized than how it is now. States use to hold MUCH more power and responsibility. That's back when America was much more conservative and libertarian.

That's what he's talking about. Look at China if you want a picture of where we're heading. Overly federalized, not "really" Communist, definitely totalitarian and heavily socialized though.

>conservative and libertarian

>and

you dont understand the meaning of those words

those are contradictory concepts

I don't appreciate you speaking for me by saying certain phrases I'm using default to a definition you came up with. If you're going to do that I'm not going to waste any time on you whatsoever and you can mentally rot in whatever liberal education the jews planned for you and I don't give a shit about you. I don't care if you wallow in ignorance for the rest of your life. Your grasp of broader concepts and even language is barely tenable.

Wealth disparity is something that has existed in every age, among every people in ever time. The nature of effort expenditure and the value of goods and services DEMANDS disparity. Everyone can't own everything and value everything at the same value across the board. dry goods are valued in times of famine and winter and metals are valued in times of war and precious metals are always valued but never at a constant rate because of the fluctuation of other events. Nations are in disparity due to war and conflict and history. Everyone can't be equal. Some men are born 6'5" and with god-tier genetics and some men are born with fatal diseases waiting in the gene structure.

There is no communism in nature, not at the macro level and not at the micro level. There is no equality in anything. Even trying to implement equality brings about negative factors that can't be accounted for until an undetermined time in the future. Socialism and Marxism are the philosophies of children who have no education in any of the sciences, history, biology, etc.

It is a waste of time to bother with you people, ultimately and the best conclusion even I can come up with is to fleece you morons in the university system of every dime you have because your parents are too stupid to look out for you and you are too stupid to understand the nature and savageness of the world. I pity you and at the same time I am infinitely annoyed by your arrogance despite the fact no one gave a shit to properly educate you.

You are educated wrong, as a joke.

>those are contradictory concepts

Not really, Conservatives normally despise federal government encroaching upon their freedoms. They do like a strong military though. This is because it's used outward, not inward.

Liberals like a strong government and a weak military. This is because a government focuses on its people, as opposed to focusing on protecting them.

That's about what it is if you think about it.

Good now break it down by Jewish versus non-Jewish and annotate what percentage of the population they constitute.

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this tread stated as a proposition to a problem

you reacted as acknowledging the problem

i asked you how to solve the problem [extreme wealth disparity]. you said, among other things, cut military expenditure by 25 percent

i need to ask you just so i will be sure we are on the same page: is this level of wealth disparity is a problem or is it not?

That's the case now. Not only in US. American jews own 90% of danish soil. We're just goys renting.

It's quite interesting in the larger cities because Jews are counted as "white non-hispanic" in a lot of cases and that skews the numbers of actually white-european non jewish numbers. When you look at a place like Miami almost all the whites that are there are Jewish and so what you have is a small population of Jews served by a massive service and goods labor population of cubans, puerto ricans, blacks, and central americans and whoever else. They hold no real power in politics but they are kept "sated" but never given a vehicle for vertical movement in the city's hierarchical power structure as that is the domain of jews and their chose shabbos goys. The jews do this in quite a few cities and they are masters at hiding their numbers from the uninitiated.

This isn't all cities but you'll find it in extremely liberal cities that seem to just be in a nightmare rush towards the abyss. Chicago, New York, San Francisco, Miami are the main culprits in these statistical mysteries.

Only vapid urban yuppies and the politically manipulated permanently victimized underclass voted for Hillary.

No need too, you leftist libtard antifa faggots defend this every day while sucking leftist-corporate media dick.

what's the point of living
we keep making more and more and more babies, but for what reason

thats factually incorrect. most are so miserly they hold onto the money they make and only make smart investments, its why they are rich. They cant spend heir money fast enough to help the economy. Spending billions is hard work, and few are able to do it properlly, because, of course they dont have to.

and we can thank replubicans for this. keeping the top 1% rich and everyone else to die

There is no wealth disparity you can even comprehend that there would be a solution to. The blacks and whites and asians and indians all have a similar level of wealth.

The amount of wealth disparity between each race or class if it were redistributed would still only equal a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

If we divy up a bag of skittles among 4 or 5 people and some people complain they only got 2 skittles and someone has seven or 8 skittles and it doesn't seem fair. Now let's assume that I am the U.S. government in this scenario. I own the entire company that creates and sells skittles. I own all the warehouses and factories that make the candy. I am globally positioned to distribute skittles all over the world. I do not even really care how many skittles you guys are arguing over. Your bag of skittles is nothing to me. I could dump a truckload of skittles on your heads and it would be nothing to me. You are so far away from the amount of wealth and power I wield it would be like a single ant in an anthill complaining to you that you are more powerful than it is and that it isn't fair.

Do you comprehend the true wealth disparity or are you too dense because even though it sounds ridiculous that is the scale of the wealth disparity combined. You will never attain the wealth of the elite in this country because they own the police and the government and the media and the export/import trade and the ships and the highways and the forests and the lakes you fish your stupid rainbow trout out of and the oceans.

you can see where the herpes are

oh, well why would you even state that there is something that can be done.

fine. you are an impotent isolated cucked consumer-producer who is totally at the mercy of all-mighty-man so far removed you couldn't even spit on their faces.

all those word just to get to this point. lol.

You should do a map of North Korean Communist Equality

It's no different than Argentina, Brazil or Mexico. Calling USA a first world country is as retarded as calling one of these other three.

for clarity a 25% reduction in military spending would only work in a benevolent government comprised of benevolent leaders and statesmen of which the U.S.A. is not.

Trump could be in office 8 years you will never see a recall of troops. You will never see a significant decrease in government spending. You never saw that under Obama, you never saw that under Bush or Clinton. You might saw a 5% decrease during times or even an 8% decrease AT BEST. The financial and military institutions are the largest players.

These companies are the plutarchs. The shareholders and board members collectively represent a single plutarch in essence. Everyone gets a piece of the pie, but the Military Industrial Complex always gets at least half of the pie right off the bat. They could give a shit if you get a 2% sliver of the pie because they have fucking half.

Even if they got 25% they would probably still have more pie than anyone else. But it will never happen. It will never happen because they can just kill anyone they want. What you don't hear about in the news is that our military campaigns are still ongoing and expanding, no one is paying attention.

ummm... that's how the land pretty much is divided. Do you have any idea how much land the rich own?

"The 1% own all the land that employ the rest. It's just the way things are, people are going to be ahead of you in life." -15th century fief.

God, things haven't fucking changed in 2000 years.

This is the reason we hate Jews ya dumb commie cunt

>implying there is such a thing as US wealth

What percentage of the 1% are jews and what percent of the total population are jews?

Are you an anti-semite?

im gonna quote a passage and ask a question

>The two great social welfare expansions in America occurred in response to the crises of the 1930s and those of the 1960s. In August 1931, over eight million citizens were unemployed. By 1933, that number would be closer to 15 million. The production of a relief system to absorb this growing mass was slow and widely resisted in America. This was the country where one was supposed to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. The New Deal in the 30s and the Great Society programs of the 60s both had “the preservation of capitalism at all times in view” as a Time magazine article about the New Deal put it. But what exactly threatened capitalism at these times? The fear was in the dissolution of civility and good morals among the unemployed. Having no work, men wandered. It became less likely for them to marry and settle down. They may turn to crime or riots to take what they want or need. Even worse, they may meet with other disenfranchised unemployed and simply begin organizing to get what they need. It took the Great Depression and millions to be unemployed together on the street for the sentiment to change from individual shame at being unemployed to recognizing it as an inherent and desired part of a capitalist economy. In Chicago, a group of around five-thousand unemployed organized a march on relief offices demanding free meals, free lodging, tobacco, and the right to hold Council meetings. When the relief funds were cut by 50%, they marched again and the cut was rescinded. There were rent riots in New York and Chicago’s primarily black neighborhoods. Groups would gather to return an evicted tenant’s furniture back into their apartment, even if that meant fighting landlords and police. After one riot in Chicago in 1931 during which three cops were injured, evictions were temporarily suspended and work relief was doled out to the rioters.

why didn't Roosevelt didnt just killed the unemployed?

I am pointing out how futile it is for communists to oppose the government because communists spread violence among people in their same class in their neighborhoods and streets. Communists will never understand the scope and planning and effort it would take to make a positive change in people's lives because communists are generally:
1) hedonists
2) stupid
3) brainwashed
4) materially spoiled by their parents
5) educationally and morally neglected by the same parents
6) isolated within their self-affirming peer group
7) irrationally emotionally hostile to outside think
8) physically violent in response to having their views challenged
9) unremarkable, select shit tier social degrees and end up in debt working as musicians or baristas
10) will attach themselves to meaningless social campaigns like gender or racial issues of the month/year
11) usually controlled by a funded organization from the same wealthy individuals they think they are fighting by beating up the 62 year old conservative man

You are more of an ally of globalism and societal control acting as idiot chaos agents than you ever will be at "freeing the masses" or whatever childish nonsense you believe.

This is how they win. They set the right against the Jews as a symbol of the wealthy elite and they set the liberals against straight white men as a symbol of the wealthy elite. This insures they never unite against the wealthy elite and keep fighting each other.

DON'T FALL FOR THEIR TRICKS. DO NOT ATTACH AN IDENTITY POLITICS LABEL TO THE WEALTH ELITE. YES, THIS MEANS NOT CALLING OUT THE JEWS. Because it's not just the jews, let's be honest here.

You're implying anyone would want all that empty space.

But the wealthy elite are the jews user. Who are (((they))) in your mind?

If if if if ifififf....
Case closed.
Also : OP is a faggot.

>spread violence among people in their same class

Hegel already discovered that a class of poverty does not de facto make a “dangerous” class a “rabble,” provided they are well managed. “Poverty in itself does not reduce people to a rabble,” he said, “a rabble is created only by the disposition associated with poverty, by inward rebellion against the rich, against society, government, etc.” Many from the class of poverty will choose a different disposition, and not because they are “traitors,” but because “rabble” is a political and ethical disposition, not primarily an economic one.

in other words, poor people can side with the rich, Kyle Chapman, for instance is a poor man, one who even got to know prison, yet he gained notoriety by fighting communism.

Marx called this phenomenon 'false consciousness'

that's basically true, have you been to the 90% part? A lot of poor mexicans and black people

Work harder or die like the commie fag you are op. If you want communism so much move to north Korea. Over 60,000,000 million people died trying to make your idea work. being poor is way less of an issue than the fact that you and many others like you think communism can work.

>1/3 people in the US rent their home
It's probably not as far off in regard to land ownership as the picture would portray, but the federal government would have the biggest portion.

he probably would have caused a massive uprising against the government. That's idiotic. A better method would be to give these people shit-tier free services and shit-tier opportunities. Operating a small business in this country has been attacked by the government at every turn. The government doesn't want independent people. They want idiot slaves who keep the wheels turning. Killing a mass of unemployed would absolutely cause a massive uprising at least in America.

By giving people free shit he created a dependent class that would ALWAYS vote for more favors and handouts and always vote against their best interests in the form of self-responsibility and self-sufficiency. That's really what's been removed in this country and is always been hunted. The means by which to be the master of your own fate/domain. The government doesn't care if it gives you foods stamps or whatever. The government cares if you're able to disrupt the machine with your private business because one day you could rival coca-cola and you might do something, who knows what, but something.

Knowing the future is not as important as controlling the means by which the future is made. If you can control what people CAN do you can control what happens.

Killing millions of the unemployed is a huge dice roll a huge huge one. It's the equivalent of a nuclear bomb going off in a major city. Killing them with alcohol and opiates and fattening food however, is totally stealth and no one will be the wiser so draw your conclusions and widen your understanding.

Another way to look at the problem. Jews are less than 2% of the population. If we deport/sterilize/exterminate whatever that small fraction by your thinking nothing happens. If on the other hand they had a stranglehold on our lives and economy then things get better for everyone after they are gone. Lets do the test and see if life without jews isn't markedly better for everyone. Nothing to lose really if there isn't a problem.

Conveniently doesn't show the part the US federal government owns.

>Killing a mass of unemployed would absolutely cause a massive uprising at least in America.

so we're NOT ruled by all-mighty-man? but you just implied that we are.

make your mind up

>federals hoarding all of our wasteland and mountains
That damn gubmint

It's a mix of whites asians and jews you dumb fuck. That image claiming 90% of the 1% is Jewish is grade A bullshit. It's nowhere near that. There are tons of rich whites obviously because white people are great at making money.

Since I only know you based on this class warfare question, I will ask you a counter question that is more important.

A sizable portion of the 1% in our country are business owners. What exactly is it about you and people like you that believe you have a right to tell them how high they can climb and how much they can own? Why are the "poor" more deserving of the wealth that the successful create than the people actually creating that wealth?

I am supposed to justify why it is that the "1%" have so much wealth. Maybe you need to justify why it is appropriate to steal their wealth and give it to people who used the time they had to screw around while those other people worked their asses off.

Here is a point. A lot of the very wealthy people you hate are actually leftists. People like Mark Cuckerberg have more wealth than you probably could ever amass in several lifetimes.

Why aren't you asking people like that to give everything they have away? I call bullshit

you are ill-informed

vimeo.com/126641539

>wasteland
A lot of that, even desert, is good land that has a lot of potential. While I do think less land should be owned by the federal government, that wasn't a point I was trying to get across, really.
To expand on the point I was trying to make: consider how many people are making payments on their land and homes. They aren't truly owners, yet, either. The attempt to blow minds with the pic in OP is ironic because it is more similar to that picture in reality than the person who made that picture is likely aware.

youtube.com/watch?v=L7EDz2LNAa8

better quality

I can admit to many flaws but I can't own up to being a dumb fuck, not the smartest man on pol but certainly not a dumb fuck. Following up on that what do you think about (with a 2% jewish population) the ownership of media outlets, dual citizenship in congress, federal reserve governance, etc. Statistically what odds are there of our existing distribution to what would be expected on an even field? In practical terms its probably worth a test. Israel imposed involuntary sterilization of foreign born jews based on race. We can hardly do worse than some deportations and property confiscation. We can hardly do worse in treating jews than what israel has done, why not use them as the benchmark.

>They only make smart investments
Gee it's almost like they want to not be poor or something

I still own something and could own more. Meanwhile, in the real world, the "9% would own this" is the amount of total land owned by the government.

>rich buy out the left coast and set up camps
I have no problem with this

Sup Forums where commie shills don't realize that communism puts 99% of people in a butthole-sized mud puddle in Iowa while the 1% has the rest.

Why would I defend this? I want the Jews murdered aka the 1% just as much as you

t. Not a commie

John Steinbeck - who was talking about America during the Great Depression, the recovery of which was hindered - not helped - .by socialism.

Socialism never took root in America because in America you can work hard and have a good life.

Socialism never took root in America because never before have so many felt so entitled to what they did not earn, nor obligated to find out the reason it's difficult.

Socialism, to the modern liberal faggot, means "free shit for me!" Free shit from WHERE, exactly?

Crazy idea - get a fucking job, loser.

Sure this thread is dead now but I've noticed that since israel confessed to sterilizing ethiopian jews without their consent, just mentioning it sends the jidf back to their holes. It seems like some mention of it should be part of every first post in every thread.

>nuh jews

you people are fucking boring

im out

Seems gay.

Why should I aspire to work in your society instead of towards my own goals and aspirations?

let me give you an advise. stay away from us and whatever we do or you gonna get hurt

If U.S. Land Were Divided Like U.S. Taxes Paid,

then 1% would own >50%
20% would own 90%
30% would own 10%
50% would own

So avoid the social security office and your local coffee shop? What level of unemployed are you? totally unskilled or totally unskilled and unwilling to work?

You're a young pollack, the consensus is that they should be reduced to sustainable population of couple thousands and locked in a zoo-like facility with walls armed at least as good as Israel does it atm. Africa is huge (Mercator maps lie because they focuse on Europe), rich, beautiful. There's no reason apes should populate it:
youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ

Which side do the jews live on?

No no, you're not supposed to threaten us, look into your little folder mr soros produced for you and read carefully again, you're supposed to try to blend in and change our minds, it's been 2 days and you're already loosing it, kek.