Should the state BAN addictive stuff

Should the state BAN addictive stuff,
or should people be "free" to ruin themselves?

You can't have a good and moral society if everyone is free to be a piece of shit neet stoner.

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Compulsory conscription should fix that - assuming you are fit for it. Also education until at least the end of high school should be compulsory for those not fit to join the military. Obviously this isnt the entire solution^^ but its a start imo.

Take the Middle Way.
Regulate (via whatever methods works best).
Put a barrier between the people and the product, difficult enough to block children and addicts, easy enough to prevent the black market being easier.
And call this barrier, this state intervention and restriction of freedoms... call it Responsibility Tax.

Can't have a moral society where people are turned into criminals for smoking some of that sweet puff.
Creating criminals while ignoring real crime is really fucking stupid.

the war on drugs has obviously been a massive failure just like prohibition before it, let it die in a corner, the moment drugs are legal 90% of the deaths are eliminated by people actually knowing what they are getting.

>>Compulsory conscription should fix that - assuming you are fit for it.
enjoy dying for (((them)))

and a membership to the boy scouts of 20 tears ago prior to said conscription.

maybe the war on drugs was always a scam. it allows the corrupt elements in governments to amass more power and control.

t. coke dealer

This is why we have /SIEG/ threads.

been there, all I saw was lame nazi comraderie

Only addictive if you're of weak mind

>flag

Yes but won't happen

Porn is controlled by Jews

>Wanting the state to regulate
Found the commie. All the things you pictured are fine in small doses, only weak people becomes addicted.

>DUDE WEED LMAO

leave the state out of my life pls. there is no and never will be a father figure state ever. grow up yourself.

The only shit I've ever truly been addicted to has been porn and the internet. I can go as long as I want without smoking weed or drinking and frequently take breaks from both. I dont eat junk food, I sleep well, I exercise, I read and keep my mind healthy.

But quiting porn and cutting down on internet usage have been the two hardest things for me. Porn is so fucking addictive, I never realized how difficult it is to stop until I tried the first time. I'm at a point now where I can use porn and it doesnt effect my sex life like it used to which is good, I dont suffer from ED and can last longer, it was a real struggle getting to this point though.

Name one reason why the state should regulate it.
People should be free to do it if they want to.

Because it's harmful, that's why we need the state to regulate it. Anarcho capitalism is the stupidest ideology ever, who would build the roads? Who would fund the military? Who will pay for welfare?

>The internet

I realized 99% of my online time is Sup Forums and Instagram.

Where did all the websites go?
What do you browse?

Ban porn and fastfood. Would fix many problems. One destroys you mentally the other destroys you physically.

Porn destroys you phisically as well

For me its Sup Forums and youtube.

>where did all the websites go?
We use the internet for different things now than we did 10 years ago. 10 years ago you'd get on the internet to find information about specific things, or you were just clicking through links and exploring. Now most of us come to the internet to communicate and we're spending less time clicking through links because we can find all the information we need on a few websites. Social media provides all the news/current events and social interaction, youtube has tutorials and entertainment, wikipedia has drawn out articles with aggregated information from multiple sources which paints detailed pictures about specific subjects. All the websites are still there but theres just no reason to visit them because we've gotten so efficient at categorizing and aggregating information on a few small websites.

This. I literally get all the "news" I need from whats posted on here and the pages I follow on FB and YT.

Don't destroy addictive items, destroy addicts. The weak willed don't have a place in society.

The web as it was is dying, notice how Google sometimes you links to a frigging app instead of a page. The problem is not this model though but who regulates it.. And it's Google/Apple at the moment.

Protecting people from themselves only breeds a weaker more helpless population you fucking idiots

It's something only shitskins have to do to be somewhat civilized, because they are subhumans who can't handle any freedom

u need to read about the rat park study. i would argue that addicts are a product of a corrupt society.

>the war on drugs has obviously been a massive failure
Wrong. Look at how many nigs it has taken off the streets. The laws were always on the books, yet people still were able to smoke as long as they weren't stupid about it and sold and bought on the street corner like a nig. With laws on the books at least the stoner culture stays somewhat subdued, and cops have a good pretext to stop and persecute blacks and hopefully imprison them.

Should masturbation be on there as well?

>rat park study

dismissed by several later studies.

>Banning the only sexual outlet for most men, including a lot of married men with frigid wives

If you can't see how this'll end in disaster you need to stop giving suggestions on how to improve society.

>being born ugly

>allow it in private
>tax it
>discourage it
>turn it into a taboo

?

Okay ill bite, how do you plan to stop people from masturbating?

state issued chastity cages, keys given to police stations

Stay out of my business autistic fuck.
Just because a group of cum guzzling fags have no self control, doesnt mean you can control everyones choices.
You commie cia glow in the dark nigger jigga boo.

Liberty is essential to the rise of the superior man. His self discipline will harden him to the temptations of the flesh. In time, he will rise to his rightful station.

I'll comp this.

people should be able to quarantine themselves from the cancer

>war on drugs
>massively drives up the price of cocaine
>the CIA gets the funds to arm rebels/topple governments allover the world
>somehow a failure
Seems to be working as intended desu.

Didnt britbongs make porn illegal?

>Didnt britbongs make porn illegal?
you have to gently ask your ISP to unlock porn sites.

100% guaranteed you end up on a watching list.

LETS CHECK THE RULE BOOK.......

Jail em for kissing am i right Mo ham?

Tunisia jails couple for 'public indecency' over car kiss
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holy shit why have i not convert to islam yet

I'm about to watch pornhub and masturbate. After work, I'm going to smoke pot. Stop generalizing people who do some things on that list. And wanting to ban things that you "feel" one way about sounds a lot like leftist or communist ideologies. I don't believe banning is a solution, and will potentially cause more problems. With that said, you are a terrible problem solver who is motivated by feeling and am incapable of critical thinking.

>I'm about to watch pornhub and masturbate. After work, I'm going to smoke pot

do you feel happy?


protip: happyness is not the "highs" of "joy"

>Look at how many nigs it has taken off the streets.
You mean paid vacations? The Aus is right. A silly mistake could ruin a young white person's career and at the same time give niggers who are probably already criminals a few months of free housing, food, clothes, all while being around your pals gaining street cred

>raping dead children makes me feel pretty good and it's not hurting the child so why should it be banned?
>it makes me feel good and it doesn't hurt anyone

I assumed I would get this response. I am certainly happy. I have a great job, I go hiking and other activities with my gf on the weekends, and I have several hobbies. I watch porn, smoke pot, play vidya, but I don't have much of a taste for fast food though. In anyway, why ban things that are thought to be a problem because one believes very hard that this freedom is ruining people. I am quite a bit of a hedonist, but I'm not a fucking idiot.

>I have a great job, I go hiking and other activities with my gf on the weekends, and I have several hobbies. I watch porn, smoke pot, play vidya

so you're a fucking normalfag

why do you come here

>should the state be my parents?

I never even stated that I was doing it cause it isn't hurting anyone. Fucking dead children is a psychological issue and most likely a person involved in something like that is not very stable and will eventually lose it. Making a very huge jump to prove a point that I never even made is very desperate of you, but nice try.

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I'm not very much a "normalfag." I don't socialize much and found this site back in highschool. The socialization that I get and am satisfied with is with my gf and at work. Otherwise it's not something I crave.

I keep losing girls because they at some point all find out I don't have friends and are creeped out

how do you do it?

Yea, I don't see the problem. You don't have to believe me, it's fucking Sup Forums.

>Using substances to alter your brain and watching other people have sex is a psychological issue and most likely a person involved in something like that is not very stable and will eventually lose i

Well my gf isn't very social either and in fact has more social anxiety than me which has helped my social anxiety. We're like best friends too which helps the most. Then you don't get that back and forth judging of each other. I don't go for staceys and don't find them attractive cause their vapid personalities. I'm not implying my gf is hideous or anything, but she's a real person that I can effectively communicate with.

>You can't have a good and moral society if everyone is free

So you're saying the only reason you're not shooting dope right now is that daddy government told you that you're not allowed to do so?

so you're dating a trap.

who said I'm not ;-)

Hmm sex is unnatural and taking a mild sedative is also unnatural. Yes I am a fucked up individual.

Well I actually wouldn't mind if they were attractive, but no.

Prohibition never works. Ban whatever you want, people get it anyway and in the process, two bit thugs become kings of a massive multi-billion dollar industry.

sex isn't unnatural, watching other people fuck eachother in the ass and taking loads of cum in their face just for profit while you mastrubate to it is though
And if you have to use these "mild sedatives" to enjoy yourself and "feel good" then something is obviously wrong.
but sure if you wanna smoke weed, watch porn and become a braindead moron then go ahead, not gonna stop you. But don't think people are going to accept it or see you as anything more than just another deadbeat.
I just hope you someday get out of it

>is just a piant

what?

It's not being "moral" if you're being forced to not do something rather than having free will and choosing to not do it.

>free will
come back when you finish high school

I wonder how long until they come along and say social media is just as unhealthy for you as beer or cigarettes.

free will usually leads to degeneracy, just look at the current state of the US

it actually is

since it's fake news where everyone pretends to have successful and happy lives it makes you feel worse (proven) and also encourages you to seek attention

social media is the (You)s for normalfags.

dude, im on your side.........

>unironically using chromatic aberration in your text

end yourself

Deadbeat? Did you not read anything else? My life doesn't revolve around porn or weed. I am quite high functioning with a great job. Dude maybe you can't enjoy anything and get frustrated at others for "watching people have sex" or become braindead from pot (which is not even close considering I have a very technical job). Also, have you ever been in an orgy? You should try it sometime. You watch and jerk off and fuck, like porn but better. I believe you are projecting cause your life sucks. Sorry to hear man.. maybe things will start to get better.

Bans are nothing but ineffective feel good political moves that solve nothing.
Excess sugar consumption is probably the biggest epidemic in the USA. If there were a ban on it to stop obesity, a black market would be born overnight to keep fatties happy.

A morally superior society is born out of unconscious good choices that stem from good parenting. If you have to think about whether something is a good idea or not, you're already fucked.

It's hard to tell, everyone is so critical. Anyway, yes seriously.

>social media is the (You)s for normalfags.
this
they just use it to pretend how good their lives are and to get approval from others.
everyone does it, everyone knows they're doing it and everyone just keeps doing it

Just go to a resturant and look at a group of people who just ordered food, the majority of that group will pull out their phones and take picture of the food and upload it to to social media, their friends will see it and play along even though they know it's just lies and attention seeking
>"hey hey look at me! look at this great food I get to eat! life is soo good"
>"I love being with my friends look how pretty they are"

I see this shit everywhere I go, even grown ups do it. I was hiking with my family last month, uncle, aunsts and some cousins. When we got to the top of the mountain I sat down to look at the view, they instantly puleld out their phones and started taking snapchat, they even ASKED eachother if they remembered to "snap" the view. When they were done they rested for about 2 minutes before we started walking down again.
I feel like tfw too intelligent writing this but it's rally starting to grind my gears


sorry for the big wall of text

>unironically belives I made that picture
>unironically uses EU flag

you're still spreading it

also it's mostly nonsense.

>have you ever been in an orgy? You should try it sometime. You watch and jerk off and fuck, like porn but better.
Jesus Christ, you're disgusting and the fact that you're recommending this is even worse
again, I hope you get out of this shit someday

>EU flag
>opinion irrelevant

America is pretty much lost

I haven't met a single white american who doesn't listen to at least a flavour of hip hop or rap

literally nigger babbles spreading jewish psyops

>>opinion irrelevant
and yet you wrote 20 lines agreeing with me on social media.

it's almost like being anonymous means you can agree or disagree regardless of the poster!

Best thing I ever did was delete social media. It’s cancerous and narcissistic

>disgusted by shitposts on Sup Forums

Fuck dude, you're fucking lame.

This is exactly why I don't own a phone or do any social media. There's nothing authentic about it but I hate how it's pretty much considered the norm now that you're some sort of weirdo for not indulging in those things like normalfags are.

well you ARE a weirdo.

normal is just what the majority agrees upon.

Banning stuff is a form of slavery. We should be allowed to live our life as we see fit, so long as it doesn't harm others.

Smoking weed doesnmt harm others. It may harm the individual who smokes it but that's their choice and their life.

People need to stop trying to control everyone. Control issues is a form of mental disorder

The state shouldn't ban something just because it's bad for the person doing it. This is how you let people do it themselves or thin the fucking herd.

You can ONLY have a good society if people are left the option to do things that are wrong. Otherwise, no one in the society is actually good, they are only servile.

>>it's almost like being anonymous means you can agree or disagree regardless of the poster!
well duh, that's the whole point of being anonymous
I agree with your post on social media but I don't agree with your post about me posting a picture I didn't even make

Burger edu, I don't get the gist of this meme. What is it implying?

Raping children causes lasting psychological effects on the child. That's one reason it's illegal. Smoking a joint in the privacy of your home while not causing harm to others is not even in the same galaxy of raping children.

You took a ridiculous extreme example and tried to tie it into something unrelated.

How do you not have a phone? You dont make any calls?

In this world of assholes gullible people are sheep

He said dead children

Thanks burger bro.