No, Sup Forums

Does Sup Forums fail to realise pre-industrial-revolution socio-political systems is simply incompatible with modern technological advancement and progress?

I'd rather live in a fully degenerate jew liberal atheist raceless queer cultural marxist society which would actually have achieved technological singularity, automatisation, space travel and get me to access to any technology I could have only dreamt of...

Instead of living in an oligarchic fascist monarchist country, without any form of access to welfare and being a victim of social darwinism (and discrimination if born female or another race than the one of the home country), or any access to technology, with short life expectancy and dead family members associated with the harsh life conditions of the pre-industrial-revolution era. With only god, the afterlife and somehow a sense of national brotherhood to believe to, to support a shit existence.

>fascist have no tech
You understand Hitler's Germany made some of the best military advancements, minus the atomic bomb

>when a fucking burger has a better understanding of medieval France than a native
wew

I'm especially speaking out against the reactionaries/traditionalists/monarchists here

proof?

implying being a farmer in France was bad

revolutionaries struggled to bring justice into these affairs and not start a technical progress that makes human abandon the land entirely

Very flawed arguments. One is that women are discriminated against. Of course it's true that women will not have the freedom they do today but "freedom" has become a manipulated concept by the Jew over the years. Today's women in the west are the most depressed and they cannot find their place in society. They are told they must have a college degree and have a job. Their place is in the house with a family and raising it. That is when they are most happy.

Pipe dream... automation only produces low grade consistent junk.. you're basically praising a Walmart tier utopia. High quality goods are hand made

>Does Sup Forums fail to realise pre-industrial-revolution socio-political systems is simply incompatible with modern technological advancement and progress?

Exactly why I fear Islamism. It would literally turn Europe into a new dark age.

Agree. Equality and combat against discrimination is outdated socio-political ideas. We need market based socio-politics that have no inherent values or rights, like we have non in modern marginal economy theory. Everything must be earned.

You realize fascist has literally NOTHING to do with the Ancien Régime right?

>without any form of access to welfare and being a victim of social darwinism

Welfare always existed through history, there were many mechanism of social protection and solidarity, the difference is that they were not monopolized by the State, especially in medieval Europe, stop being a pleb and read Maurras.

>Meanwhile, let's let the Muslims install Sharia because it would be too racist to stop them.

T. Globalist.

Before the industrial revolution, being a farmer was relatively bad compared to what he have today.

You can't return to that unfortunately, the world wars brought women into the factories and thus into the market, and every economic events post-1945 has been pushing towards its continuity

Besides, I think it was far more worse back then to be automatically assigned the role of housewife and not being able to have hopes beyond if chosen to. In today's world, women are technically not denied the opportunity to raise a family if they want to.

Yeah and no, what I'm sure of is that you have many goods that simply can't be manufactured on a large scale by being entirely hand made.

The dark age never happened, at least for everything north to Rome, it's a stupid anglo meme, but yeah muslim invasion is really bad for Europe, especially considering how it depresses the quality of our people.

The Dark Age did happen for Western Europe. It lasted about five centuries, while Islam (ironically) embraced science under the Mutzalites. The situation has effectively reversed since the Renaissance, but Dark Ages have happened and will probably happen again.

''Too racist'' is fallout of outdated now French revolution ideas. This is what needs to be dismantled first in the 21th century. Equality is lie summoned to combat lie of divine rule of monarchs. Now when Pope's blessed monarchies are gone we don't need this lie anymore.

I should have precised i was targetting my criticisms towards the reactionnaries more than the fascists, my bad

I've looked up the affiliation your guy Marras has with Action Française, I'll read him while being careful for the bias but thanks for the recommendation.

By weighing my words, I do however assume that State Welfare is more effective than any previous methods of welfare especially in our current globalised era

Good luck getting that across to the powers at be. I believe they are, at least subconsciously, trying to start a New Dark Age similar to the Fall of the Bronze Age, Fall of Rome, or collapse of the Zhou dynasty.

>and being a victim of social darwinism (and discrimination if born female or another race than the one of the home country)
God, I hate you shitskins so much

>market based socio-politics that have no inherent values or rights
>that's right goy, don't be concerned for your nation, race and cultural heritage, just work longer hours and buy more of our processed foods and shitty TV propaganda

>market based final solution

You're thinking of the wrong era buddy. Show me a handmade microprocessor that's better than a mass produced one. Mechanical precision > Human precision.

>Besides, I think it was far more worse back then to be automatically assigned the role of housewife and not being able to have hopes beyond if chosen to.

Good goy, women in the West were always kept locked inside the house like in Saudi Arabia before feminism... oh wait no, it's total bullshit, we even had a whole bunch of queens.
Vast majority of women could work if they wanted, they just had to be authorized by the father/husband to be in the interest of the family, which was most of the time the case. In fact women had their own jobs and a particular role in society that was different from men but no less important.

The entire concept of feminism is born from the mind of bored little bourgeoises who wanted to play the man because the servants were already doing all the work at home.
There is literally NOTHING more glorious in slaving for your boss instead of managing the home and educating your own children, in fact it's quite the opposite.

>Besides, I think it was far more worse back then to be automatically assigned the role of housewife and not being able to have hopes beyond if chosen to. In today's world, women are technically not denied the opportunity to raise a family if they want to.

"Technically"
Reality is that women in the middle and upper class are pushed very hard to study and have a career to which children are considered a MASSIVE burden.
In bonus of being a dysgenic trend for society (because of course in consequence the most intelligent women reproduce less than the dumb teenage mothers who don't even understand how the pill works) it made the job market ruthless and crashed the salaries, when only one of the parent was need to farm shekels for its boss in order to provide now two are obligatory for everyone below upper middle class.

>Before the industrial revolution, being a farmer was relatively bad compared to what he have today.

You really don't know shit right ?
Farmers in France are winning around 500€ per months. Around 300 Farmers killed themself last year. Every year it increases.
The traditional society was protecting them against inflation and rapacity from invasions.

Like it or not, in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.

The time of peace is coming to an end. The next cycle of war is about to begin in the next 2 decades. This is because as empires fall, new powers race to fill that void and this struggle inevitably leads to war.

Fascism = modernity
Like Marxism and liberalism
If you don't get it...

Ok so feudalism / monarchism with medieval levels of tech with no jews
I'll take it!
Tribalist pre medieval age EVEN BETTER

Basically
>I want free shit and an easy life and I'll sell out every one and everything I consider good and moral to do it

>The Dark Age did happen for Western Europe. It lasted about five centuries, while Islam (ironically) embraced science under the Mutzalites.
This is wrong. Dhimmis - non muslims living in muslim lands - embraced science, mostly Indians and other people expanding on greek knowledge.
Rome's decline isn't a sign of Europe's decline, as Rome from the beginning was always a tyrannical, genocidal super state. An extremely impressive one, sure, but corrupt and rotten from the inside.
Rome had to die so that the other peoples of europe could grow

No it didn't, it has been debunked by numerous medieval historians.
It's a retarded meme created during by the Renaissance and Enlightement intellectuals who idolized classicism and who were in conflict with the Church, it was resurrected by the anglos at the beginning of the XIXth century to describe the state of the Island before the conquest of Guillaume.

You have to be delusional to think the people living in Gauls, Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, the Balkans or eastern Europe were more civilized or had it better during the Antiquity than the Middle Age.

Fact: there has been more technological progress during the MA than during the Antiquity, there has been more demographic growth too for Northern Europe, notably the regions around the Rhine.
It's the time when the first great european explorers appeared (Marco Polo, Leif Erikson, etc...), when agriculture knew its first revolution, when breakthrough in commerce, mechanics, navigation and overall craftmanship were done in Europe.

I could talk about the Carolingian renaissance, how the monasteries created the first european network allowing a continental diffusion of knowledge, or how slavery was progressively eradicated or how people were actually more hygienic for example than during the Renaissance until the pre-Pasteur era when people were filthy as fuck, etc... There are a lot of things showing that the so called "dark age" was a period of amazing progress for the West.

>Giving up everything that makes the human experience meaningful, for faggotry and robots that do what humans already do.

Great idea.

Great idea

^This.
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What would you characterize sixties America or Sweden as? They had traditionalism and modernity. Values and technology. It's been a lifetime since humans last even visited moon, so I think we currently have neither values nor technology.

Nazis were reactionary traditionalists if anything. Your argument seems to have lost its base right at the first post.

Not only military ones, first programmable computers were invented there.

As long as scarcity exists capitalism is a desirable alternative to communism/socialism as human greed will inherently drive capitalism forward, while it will rot the ideals away from a socialist/communist society.

Nice Shadow-chan reference

Does OP realize the US had to import facists from Germany to build their space program?