That crowd was brutal! Everyone is talking about the "great optics" but it was actually very difficult to sit through. The average person will not watch this speech and be swayed. The will see the headlines of every major news outlet calling Richard a white supremacist and a 2 min clip of the crowd booing Spencer. Which they'll think he deserves.
I'm left wondering how do we get people to really listen to what we have to say when everyone has such an emotional response because they think we're a bunch of jackbooted thugs that want a "peaceful ethnic cleansing?"
Asher King
>Spencer's own fanbase is turning on his ISRAEL FIRST policies >better make shill thread 6 gorilion and do some damage control lol
Colton Richardson
You really can't do anything about liberals thinking that identitarian is racist. They are always going to be close minded towards anything that helps the white race.
Jonathan Thomas
How is anything I said sound like something a shill would say? I want us to be successful, I just feel at the moment we've reached a cap of how many people will really listen to the message. Somehow we need to find a better way to reach people. Spencer's public image has been ruined by the MSM, I don't like it but acknowledging it doesn't make me a shill.
William Cooper
>Richard Spencer...Mike Enoch...TRS... Zionism >I want us to be successful pick one
Liam Brooks
Damn I’d love to suck 20 spics off just to make this bitch smile
Christopher Flores
I don't believe this is true as I was once a liberal espousing the same thing as them and if I had never taken the red pill I'd be up there yelling too. The reason they are having this reaction is because they don't understand how whites are being victimized in their countries. They take our white advocacy to mean that we want the death of all non-whites. They've already a bad impression of us, we need to find a way to start the conversation over from the beginning be more clear make them listen. I was once disgusted by you guys but I took the redpill I believe they can too.
Luke Edwards
richard spencer is a giant fucking faggot.
Samuel Cox
You're just some nutjob.
Daniel Barnes
Whatever. Even if he is a Jew puppet what I'm really getting at here is how do we get people to embrace white nationalism without them conflating it with Nazis?
Jose Reyes
White Nationalism is a CIA psy op you degenerate moron.
Easton Davis
You're not going to attract quality posters by posting meme asses. Half the people here hide lewd pics because you are a cancer of this board, newfag. Oh look, they saged you ;_; See?
Kayden Jones
Fuck off CTR you're not fooling anyone.
Austin Edwards
You are one of the few open minded people then. There was another guy during the QaA who was also open to Spencer. I'm saying when they join these large crowds and chants they won't care what he has to stay. They are focused more on their lame comebacks like "How did it feel to get punched?" or even the question he gets asked all the time "Why are you for ethnic cleansing???" These people are not going to listen no matter what the answer is because they are still going to believe he is for ethnic cleansing.
Thomas Wright
more ass!
Dylan Thompson
Jesus Christ you "controlled opposition" faggots are the dumbest people on this site.im surprised you haven't started calling Rockwell or even Hitler controlled opposition yet.
Asher Phillips
Fuck you faggot.
Bump
Josiah Martinez
White people are done for
Colton Jackson
Bump
Charles Gutierrez
When people hear Spencer speak, some of them will realise he's not some useless "hurrdurr kill the browns!" brainlet and hopefully some of them will then look into his ideas a bit more.
He's far from the best "we" can do, Jared Taylor is a lot better and I'm sure even better people will emerge. I can't fathom the amount hate Spencer gets from Sup Forums though.
>inb4 picture of him with Laura Bush. Not an argument
Ayden Jenkins
No, not necessarily. The message has just been hijacked, that's all.
Chase White
You haven't seen the posts about Hitler being a Jew?
Consider yourself lucky.
Brayden Gray
Can confirm I live in Whitefish Montana his adopted home town and.. >local news Literally just showed the protesters with raised fists chanting and didn't even show a picture of Richard
Logan Gutierrez
Wrong. People will see that ridiculous crowd, and realize that that's who they're allying themselves with. When he says "what are you afraid of me saying at around 20 minutes in, you realize that he's right.
Jaxson Rogers
Richard is important becuase he gets the reaction.. Jared Taylor won't get this kind of attention
Luis Martinez
Jew press is enemy number one
Charles Lewis
his delivery, method and message may not be the best but he has balls in todays society to say something, anything against the grain. I respect him for trying to do something.
There is no respect for the keyboard critic whos idea of proactive change is casting judgement on those trying to make a positive difference while wasting away in a computer chair doing literally nothing.
Bentley Powell
The biggest take away I had today was that Spencer is improving on his energetic speech skills. I think he made some sort of transitive shift from an intellectual leader to an actual leader of men (although admittedly still a weak leader of men).
Usually Spencer stays a bit to calm and acts very academic, similarly to Taylor. Today though he was high energy, combating and humiliating the media, energetically rebuking the crowd, and firing up his supporters.
For the first time I actually though he could be the leader of our movement. He has a lot of work to do if he actually wants to inspire masses of people, but he is at least becoming less autistic.
Anthony Richardson
>us
Kek I don't even know you
Henry Bailey
FBI here allied with spencer, let me show you idiots how subverting is done. Watch my email, I know you can see it. Watch what I upload to normie sites
>pls hire me im poor
Dylan Barnes
Pretty much this.
I can see why some aren't keen on him... He's a chancer and an attention seeker for the purposes of personal gain as well as for the movement, as well as not being a particularly engaging speaker as you said. Hardly the worst crimes in the world. I'm grateful for what he does.
Jace Jackson
You dispel the lies and lies told about the nazis so that when people equate you with the nazis they do not think of a Steven jewberg movie or book and instead think that a race and culture has the right to be proud of itself ESPECIALLY white people considerin we have over and over contributed more to humanity then any other race or culture in this world.
Robert Ward
Spencer is a docking shill Hitler 2.0 is in the works but he isn’t here yet. The sooner you accept that the sooner the conditions that will bring Hitler 2.0 will come about
Dylan Green
>dude spencer is a shil!!!! >He hurts rights right wing conservatism!!! >Jews are based!!! ;) Fucking trumpflakes, fuck off
Jacob Jones
I was wrong. I embrace any allies of the Islamic State, including Israel.
INSHALLAH!!!! >rapes goat
Alexander Barnes
Redditards are in some realy huge damage control today. They say he is a fed, while the real problem is a zionist president shilling for bibi 24/7
Oliver Lewis
new thread
new thread
new thread
Charles Thompson
Isn't that the guy who got punched on his gay ass face by a literal IRL scat slave and then cried afterwards?
What a LOOSAH
Leo Thomas
>but he isn’t here yet I agree with this somewhat. What do you feel it will take for this to happen?
Jayden Phillips
because that's what you are scum
Noah Walker
That was a fucking mess The crowd were contemptible low iq idiots but the hosts were smarmy jackasses Richard needs to disengage troll mode just a bit and let the crowds insults fly right over his head and continue speaking as rationally as possible, instead he antagonised and baited the crowd by responding to their chanting with knee jerk sarcasm And they kept dropping subtle veiled threats obviously designed to scare them, both Spencer and co and the crowd members asking “questions” In the end everything was lost in translation, the chaos and confusion ate up the conversation For all their self-righteous posturing on their soapbox about opening up a dialogue, no such dialogue happened Spencer just acted smug while a bunch of rabid left-monkeys threw metaphorical feces at him
It was fucking great
Nathan Brooks
Can you support a Jewish ethnostate and a white ethnostate at the same time?
Oliver Reed
The creation of a Jewish ethnostate does inadvertently benefit a white ethnostate, when you really think about it
Samuel Morgan
What a fucking mincing little faggot he is. His dream will die if they dont find better people, and I doubt they will.
Elijah Miller
That’s the sort of thing you should be asking Richard Spencer tho I’m just here for the laughs
Connor Perry
A bunch of fat, poorly dressed, lisping faggots who arent even particularly eloquent.
Jayden Jackson
like you? what are you doing? watching the walls crumble around you and insulting anyone who tries to fix them? retard, you're part of the problem
Jordan Cruz
I saw potential today watching that but it was not Richard Spencer but the other guys. RS smells so much like controlled opposition.
Nicholas Price
Fuck off shills. Richard Spencer is controlled Op. No one is buying your narrative.
Nathan Gutierrez
>Which they'll think he deserves. He deserves worse really. WN's in general do as they're all nothing but controlled opposition.
Anthony Allen
/leftypol/ d&c, concern troll, or just an actual moron
Cameron James
Ok asshole. Tell me if white nationalists are controlled opposition, who isn't?
Jason Davis
are there any videos of this, I havent seen anything yet
Alexander Reed
It was never mainstream you tard. The KKK was only big in the 20s as a way to protect America against Catholics, not nigs. Surprisingly enough most people might harbor some kind of suspicions towards people outside of their race but full on white power shit doesn't appeal to them (neither does black power and all of that; it appeals mainly to "woke" idiots and self-hating whites). There's no "getting the normies to seriously listen to our message" revelation that's going to happen because 99% of the people are never going to be swayed by it because they don't care and you look like losers.
Jason Flores
You can keep dreaming of that day and waiting for it by what are we gonna do in the meantime? We need a mix of white advocacy, old school nationalism, and a bit of Varg-type survivalism just in case shit doesn't go our way. All elements have their place
Brandon Russell
Check out ruptly on YouTube bcuz they did a livestream which you can watch back It’s where I watched it
Grayson Lewis
Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap
Aiden Brown
T. R/the_donald
Jaxson Gonzalez
Only if the white ethnostate doesn't let the Jewish one lead it around on a leash like a shabbos doggy
Luke Gray
>The average person will not watch this speech and be swayed. I showed a clip of the speech to my mom, and not only did it totally change her perception of Spencer (which was built up entirely from what she'd heard about him in the media), but she was actually quite receptive to his ideas and said she'd like to hear more.
Although you're right that the message probably won't reach the average person, it CAN have an effect on the people it does reach.
Kevin Long
What a strange and absolutely absurd response.
Jonathan Hill
>mfw you didn't know that commies and anarchists are violently antizionism and unironically want open borders for Israel, and take the side of the Palestinians
Leo Gray
CTR out in full force in this thread
Liam Parker
>Implying you aren't a firm objector to white identity
Nathan Morris
Optics-wise it turned out amazing. Anyone who is interested in hearing Richard Spencer speak will not be swayed by the supremely childish behaviour of the audience.
The media can show clips of the audience behaviour, which leftists will say "good" and move on and conservatives will say "This is how the alt-left keeps down free speech."
Win-win. I've never wanted to tell a crowd of people to shut the fuck up as much as the crowd at University Florida.
Grayson Jones
all 3
Lincoln Scott
Jews are losing control of the monester they helped create, and it's happening more and more as their victim status from the holocaust wears off. They've painted themselves into a corner by giving muzzies so much victim status
Cameron Thomas
I'm happy to hear that user. I hope it does, I just get nervous because I feel as if we're in a race against time. People need to understand soon before undoing this mess becomes impossible.
Luke Williams
...
Julian Long
It's pretty righteous, really. White Nationalists saying Jews literally have nothing to say in opposition to an ethno-state, and their lefty cohorts turning on them for having one.
Ayden Scott
this
Kayden Sanders
Informative.
Thomas Campbell
Nah, you're just easy to spot.
Justin Garcia
You can not win the culture war without controlling PLATFORMS OF COMMUNICATION.
Read that again. Nobody seems to be able to figure this out. You need to be the game master, the controller, not just a player in the game. There is literally no way to win against a person who controls the platform of communication.
The education system, the media, social media applications and the legal/political/banking apparatus.
Physically going to universities is better than nothing I suppose but it is not 'changing the education system', you still control nothing. It pokes a stick at it from outside, it does not usurp it. The left TOTALLY USURPED the whole western education system and is in absolute control of the mainstream media, hollywood, popular culture / fashion / music, as well as every single major social media application. They also have an ever tightening vice grip on the legal/political/banking apparatus, despite the current temporary backswing.
Once Texas flips it's 100% goodnight alt right. Literally the only hope will be to encourage calexit and texit. And even then it will be an ever increasing vice grip.
The right has failed to maintain any control of any of the most important cultural elements. They literally gave it all up without a fight.
How can it be won? We need to control our own platforms of communication. THE PLATFORMS, not what is being said on the platforms. Take notice that Spencer is on Twitter, Youtube, Periscope, Universities, etc...He is on THEIR court. They get to manipulate every aspect of what he says, even whether he can say anything at all.
And we don't need alternative versions like Gab, Voat or whatever tiny echo-chamber kiddie pool. The most expedient way to do this is to push to nationalize the most popular web applications and therefore protect free speech on them + push for heavy education reform. Libertardians need to unplug their autistic heads from their asses.
Kevin Watson
Okay Abbo, settle down.
Easton Long
Struth.. I might not ever recover from that zinger user.