Previous Thread: >Pol there is more to the story that is not being publicized.
>Dig deeper anons. Focus on the second hotel room and window. There is no photos or descriptions of what was found in there. And for good reason. Remember the early reports of "shooting platforms" set up in the room. Well there was. I have not seen it myself but had it described to me. In news photos taken through the broken window you can see green tape on the matress. This is where a the primary shooter shot from. The motive was an assassination attempt on President Trump. He was secretly flown into LV that night to meet with Sheldon Adelson in the morning. His meeting was moved to the whitehouse after the melee.
>In the videos you can clearly hear two individual shots fired first before the automatic fire. These were taken with a .308 rifle found on scene, which has not been released to the public.
>We suspect Campos may have been one of the shooters or at least involved but our investigation is leading to many dead ends. There were at least two shooters, of which Paddock was not one. There is evidence Paddock was dead before the shooting. Truth is we really don't know what has gone on here, we are trying our best to find out. Both MGM and the FBI have been hindering our investigations, and both have been trying to influence the public timelines. The versions presented by the chief have been compromised versions, that's why they don't make a lick of sense.
>he was broke because of gambling problem >he was a millionaire and not broke >he was a Muslim convert >he was not a Muslim convert >he was ISIS >he wasn't ISIS >he was a loner >he was married and hung out with lots of prostitutes >he wasn't married >he had a girlfriend >he had no mental illness >he had possible mental illness >he was a gun guy >he wasn't a gun guy >he was alone in the room >evidence that he wasn't alone in the room >he shot the security guy after he started shooting into the crowd >he shot the security guy before he started shooting into the crowd >the security guard was killed >the security guard was shot in the leg >the security guard was a janitor >there was a maintenance man >there was no maintenance man >he shot at the fuel tanks >he didn't shoot the fuel tanks >he was driving a Chrysler Pacifica >He was driving a Hyundai Tuscon >vehicle was full of guns and explosives >vehicle was not full of guns and explosives >there were shots at other casinos >there were no shots at other casinos >there is casino video footage >there is no casino video footage >this is the official story >this is not the official story
Jaxson Hill
2nd window had a perfect line on the super secret JANET terminal and was more than in range of a properly equipped sniper
Josiah Adams
has anyone ever done a drive-by / visual inspection on the fuel tanks? any evidence that they were hit at all? construction/paint/damage?
Ian Reyes
revenge bump
Brandon Allen
If Trump was coming in secretly, I just don't think it would be on a private contractor that only goes back and forth to Area 51. Also why would he come in through one the most active airports in the world? I just don't see a 70+ year old guy jumping coasts either like this.
I saw a post earlier linking a local news site. They pointed out "black powder residue" on the tank! Fuggin what? All diversions user.
Eli Edwards
I swear I read a thread about Trump being assassinated in L.A on here before the shooting ...
Colton Peterson
We need to find the FAA Flight History for McCarren on Oct. 1st, I'm looking but this isn't my forte. Hopefully a pilot bro could help out.
Logan Taylor
sorry boys. not sure why the time link didnt work. go to 19:00 into the video
Mason Johnson
I dug for an hour or so a few days ago, what I learned is (1) ppl on Sup Forums do not like us (2) you can track airplanes but not ppl (3) military aircraft are a different realm
Easton Smith
Someone posted the original leaked pics. Replies were terse.
> Where did you get these photos? >> Work.
LARPs like to spin yarns - genuine leakers know they can get fucked if they say too much.
Analyze with this in mind.
Parker Gray
whitehousedossier.com/2017/10/01/trump-schedule-sunday-october-1-2017/ According to Trump’s schedule that day, he was supposed to arrive at the White House at 8PM. His whereabouts are unknown after that. Check for flights going into McCarren from Morristown, New Jersey. That’s where he was at 7PM est. Also check flights arriving from the DC area, Virginia, Maryland, etc. if he left the east coast at 8PM, his flight to Las Vegas would take approx 5 hours and 1 minute, which means he’d land at 1AM Eastern standard, or 10PM pacific. The shooting started at 10:05PM.
Cooper Jenkins
I tried to find this.
The data does exist but you need connections in order to get access to it.
Ethan Parker
I had a similar weird experience. When I watched the taxicab driver video I got this weird feeling of deja vu.
There was also an article in The Independent (UK) that had a time stamp of 05:57 BST or 9:57 PM local time - before the shooting happened.
did someone mark it? police ballistics/evidence marker or something?
Sebastian Allen
Trump’s flight path is always by helicopter from Morristown to Newark Liberty. There would be no direct flights from Morristown to McCarran/Janet unless by small private jet, since Morristown airport is small.
Christian Walker
I have a feeling Paddock’s brother might have been connected for this reason. He lied press and said he was a retired engineer, when he’s really the Operations Officer for Naval Air Station in Kingsville Area 39. I know that flights from the east coast to west coast usually stop over in Texas. If Trump was on schedule to change planes at NAS kingsville before continuing on to McCarren, Patrick Paddock would have absolutely known about it.
Elijah Stewart
Read last post about connection to kingsville
Nathan Thompson
"supposed to", though.
if he left morristown at 7, he could have been in Vegas by 9pm pst, no problem.
I buy the potential timeline of either case - morristown => DC => Vegas or just morristown => Vegas.
either is plausible.
Owen Bennett
His schedule says he departed Morrisville and was headed to the White House, that’s the only reason I suggested Morrisville. If they were trying to be discrete, could he have taken a small private jet out of Morrisville and landed at the NAS in Kingsville, TX, then taken a flight from there to McCarren?
Jack Rodriguez
I stand corrected. Trump also flies into Morristown on his Boeing C-32, which surprised me having flown from Morristown years ago.
Have seen his helicopter & escort fly overhead however as I live under flight path to EWR from MMU.
Evan Nguyen
I think either way, he probably would have been trying to “fly under the radar” with the this being a secret meeting. I’m not sure if people track Airforce 1 or how that works but I’m wondering if they put him on a different aircraft to get him there so people wouldn’t know
Sebastian Robinson
I would assume that at least once in a while he would travel this way, they must be able to without all the fanfare somehow.
Jeremiah Myers
Vegas Metro user claimed that Schuck was really Security and not Maintenance and that Campos was really a janitor and not Security.
The problem is, in the radio traffic between Schuck and his dispatcher, the dispatcher talks about Security in the third person. After Schuck tells his dispatcher that someone is shooting a rifle, his dispatcher asks "Security wants to know if you know a room." So Schuck's dispatcher was not Security.
Cameron Kelly
This would fit with Kelly’s phone being stolen/compromised. As Chief of Staff, he would likely know, and they seem to trust each other. It would also fit with other facts — holes in fuel tanks, tannerite and ammonium nitrate in vehicles — suggested that the tactical objective of the attack was the airport or vehicles leaving the airport, not the crowd. Remember, before this, someone already tested his motorcade security by attempting to ram a white sedan into it on the highway as it passed.
Wyatt Carter
What about the drone theory, if the drone/black helicopter seen flying around to the left of the stage in videos, (kind of near those two skyvue towers) took off from either Tropicana, roof of MB or the suspicious RV behind the motel 6. They could have headed in the direction of McCarren while someone shot from Mandalay Bay.
Luis Myers
> I’m not sure if people track Airforce 1 or how that works but I’m wondering if they put him on a different aircraft to get him there so people wouldn’t know
Not knowing that 'Airforce 1' is the callsign of literally any airplane that currently carries the POTUS.
Trump can never not fly on Airforce 1 so long as he's president
Isaiah Hernandez
While you play detective They kill you softly
James Wood
Apparently he got 2 rounds in the tanks and they have already repaired them
Lincoln Stewart
Also, the drone does not have to be the weapons platform.
Isaiah Foster
Because Occam's Razor
More simple that one or two people shot from the building has appears happened
Grayson Walker
I think this is it. This is the most plausible motive theory I’ve seen thus far. It makes al the sense. If only there was a way to prove that Trump was there at the Janet terminal for sure. I’m going to keep digging.
Dominic Clark
>Both MGM and the FBI
so the Mafia and the Mormons are committing crimes together again?
Xavier Nelson
$10 bill? Yep
Kevin Scott
Ever been to the Double Down Saloon?
I recommend the Ass Juice.
Gavin Cox
So I heard they found Campos, did he say why he suddenly disappeared?
>joe clearly says he didn't take the picture >OP says joe took the picture >be OP >kys
Anthony Murphy
Without conjectures about the “why,” the facts already in evidence paint a different tactical map of the event than we are being told.
Scoped AR10s in room mean targeted single shots at 500+ yard range are more plausible. Holes in fuel tanks. Tannerite packed car means a single shot could set off a car bomb. Tanks at Janet. After it failed, gunning the crowd. The attack on the crowd was a secondary diversion to cover the primary objective: shooting tannerite in a car that was supposed to be near fuel tanks at an airport. Then, who was at the airport?
A lot of people are falling down the rabbit hole on motive before establishing what the tactical objective was first, then proceeding from there.
Brandon Kelly
nigger thats photo shopped and joey is retarded to believe it
Xavier Allen
i meant joe posted picture
Michael Moore
Oh Hai "Ex" :)
Ryder Smith
That’s what they’re telling people, doesn’t mean it’s the truth. If Trump really was there and someone was firing at the plane and even hit the plane multiple times, they would have known it was an assassination attempt. No doubt. And the last thing they’re gonna do is make an announcement and tell everyone that the planes had all these bullets fired into them, because that would lead people straight to the trail we have reached. People would want to know why the planes. Who was on them. People know what JANET is. If they had come out and told people the shooter was firing at Trump, then they’d have to explain why Trump was there in the first place. So just because they didn’t tell us the plane was hit, doesn’t mean it didn’t get it.
Gabriel Sullivan
Diversions or actual proof the feds are telling truth?
Charles Butler
Anyways trump being here is a shit theory.
Jack Baker
Hahahaha. Thanks!
Nolan Collins
Tannerite is useless as an explosive for taking out a plane or fuel tank. It wouldn't ignite the fuel or do that much damage. You'd need C4 or something a little more sexy.
Luke Murphy
Trump isn't going to fly in the middle of night to meet Sheldon fucking Adelson in Las Vegas and then fly back to do his business in DC. Not happening.
But maybe several days earlier, when the planning for the attack was set in motion, the room was booked, the guns and ammo were gathered and the hit team moved into place, it was then believed that Trump was going to come to Vegas to meet with Sheldon Adelson.
With all the resources in place, maybe they decided to just go ahead anyway with the attack even without Trump.
Look for anything a week prior to the shooting talking about a Trump-Adelson meeting that those behind the attack may have relied on.
Jason Young
other than when he was there the next day, but he left in AF1
John Bennett
Sure. But think about it from the other direction: there WAS tannerite found in his car. Why would tannerite be in his car? Tannerite explodes when shot.
Not saying it was a great plan - it obviously failed. But I don’t see any reason to use tannerite unless you are going to detonate it by shooting it. No other idea makes sense.
Isaiah Powell
that's from Trumps official visit days later. not relevant
Carter Myers
Really shit, if there target was Trump then why mow down 58 people? Seriously fucking retarded theory, we know this guy has been planing this for a while rented hotel rooms around other concert sites these past few months.
And as far as campos is concerned I doubt his dumb ass was involved in any way. Probably stumbled upon something and let him live.
Connor Watson
youtube.com/watch?v=rhti2xAB-Gk if this spok was smart enough to do calcutaltions with a pen and paper why was he trying to buy tracer rounds? If he was trying blow up tanks why didn't he just use the explosives he had on him to do so?
Isaiah Rodriguez
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Bentley Bell
Gas Tank?
Zachary Flores
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William Hall
that is useful information, not heard anyone else mention this but i believe it is a vital key in solving this scooby doo mystery
Jackson Young
...
Ryder Baker
what the fuck is with the residue normal everyday fmj doesn't do that
Logan Butler
Which location was Paddocks car found again?
Jayden Perez
are these lead bullets?
seems like the tank was too strong.
John Sanders
Tracer maybe?
Henry Lopez
tracers would have shown up in vidoes?
Oliver Bailey
I cant believe you guys are still on this, I live here and everyone from here knows FBI did it.
Nolan Kelly
they said incendiary rounds... I'm baffled by the amount of powder residue they left behind, especially at that range. An to thing, not one shiny spot of bare metal... Those 'shots' look old
John White
Mega said Pence was in Vegas. Would both be there??
Jose Butler
That about sums it up. Fucking useless to even try to follow it. We'll never know.
Juan Sullivan
Thanks for clearing things up, user.
Chase Morris
That is NOT a .556 that is either a 7.62, .308, .300 (Blackout), or .336 (Lapua)
Dylan Anderson
Heres what happened faggots.
>2 Minitues gap between breach and gunfire stopped.
>Camera was found outside the room >The door exit door next to the room was bolted shut. >Obviously they've done that to give them a 2 minute window of escape. >Why no footage? because you'll find them leaving >Paddock is a patsy
Samuel Foster
not old. power would have washed away. tanks were old an rusty under paint. no shiny metal there to reveal
Daniel Johnson
why are you posting this fat jew?
Kayden Wilson
Don't try to use logic! They made that after the shooting.
Bentley Stewart
"A lot of VIP'S were there..."
Juan Barnes
Wow just noticed that, good looks user. I thought that was the entry hole size. Those are API's (Armor Piercing Incendiary) 100%
Benjamin Thompson
Fucks sake.
Andrew Roberts
Patrick Paddock lied to press and said he was a retired engineer when he’s really the Head of Operations for Naval Air Base in kingsville area 39. If Trump wanted to meet in secrecy, he would have flown at night and not told anyone. Based on his schedule for Oct 1, ya entirely possible h could have left at 8pm from either Morristown or DC on a different aircraft and flown to the area 39 NAS in Kingsville, then to Janet terminal. If Trump was going to land at NAS Kingsville, Patrick Paddock would have absolutely known about it.
Cameron Thompson
Patrick? You mean Eric?
Dominic Brown
Sheldon was one of trumps backers along with Steve Wynn. So the question is what would Trump be planning to do that would require going to have a face to face with his largest donors ?
The biggest idea I am kicking around in my mind is trump went to vegas to get an insurance policy. Vegas runs one of the largest off record books outside of Switzerland for important margin bets on long odds. Going back to Howard Hughes' USNS Hughes Glomar Explorer , the "big 3" is where you go to do wierd shit. In HH's case, he needed the casinos to put up the insurance bond on the ship in order to get the loan to build it with CIA equity.
If Trump needed a guarantee or insurance package, that is the only reason I could forsee trying to assassinate a sitting POTUS.
Xavier Brown
Incendiary? I don't know much about them.
Matthew Gutierrez
I was thinking the outer material must be of some soft material that the round could punch through, and then I saw the weld marks on the rim hereSo the top lip is definitely steel and even at point blank range FMJ 223 would just make a minor dent and scratch in a thick steel plate.
No fucking way at 600 meters + would normal 223 be punching massive holes in steel with that kind of powder residue.
Can any armyfags who have actual experience with AP rounds confirm?
Jaxon Adams
Why do you say this?
James Martin
Guys, were there any special travel deals or discount rates for that particular harvest festival?
Parker Barnes
I was able to access his LinkedIn and get his full CV before it dissapeared from the internet. I think this is the main reason why Eric has done sooo much talking, so the press wouldn’t bother the rest of the family. Patrick gave one comment to press about Stephen and they left him alone. They really don’t know want anyone to know what he really does for a living and I think there’s a good reason for it.
Matthew Ramirez
Setup for a sniper in second room?
Thomas Long
Eric's fb is still active. However it's private. No posts since August??
Asher Nelson
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Isaiah Stewart
1. Paddock or the real killers shoot Pence 2. ??? 3. Purple Revolution 4. President Cankles
Adrian Anderson
So what would be the simplest reason for this to have been carried out?
