Anti-antifa-strategy thread

This should be easy enough. How do we get the Uber-Left to eat themselves? They already do a great job of it. I think that we should meme war them into justifying ever increasing identity based reasons to punch others beneath their hierarchical identity political guidelines. For instance: "Punch a Carnivore for Justice"

Any thoughts on reasonable yet effective (as of yet unused) strategies to eliminate these clueless radicals?

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Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.

shoot them.

No doubt, but couldn't we use their defective rationale against them and get them to broaden their Nazi Punching horizons?

As of yet not a very reasonable method

Think of it like judo. Watch and wait for an opening to exagerate an ill-executed motion. At present, they are retreating into bait mode, so there's not much to work with.

half of pol is people calling people names, the other half is people sucking their own dicks....it might as well be Sup Forums ....lets talk real strategy.

or you know, start a unified leaderless group that follows a set system of values that are written down in black and white so that everybody knows what the group believes in and wants that way they cannot be lied about or suffer purity spiral. and then have that group of people act as a new political affiliation except with strict rules and the ability to mobilize with violence to protect anyone who is part of the ideology

I disagree, the Art of War philosophy here is kinda lame... they have presented a weakness with this violent shit. I think we should exploit it.

This thread sounds like fun. Should be easy enough with those braindead animals :D

By doing what? Your stated goal is to allow them to eat themselves.

completely unnecessary as we have this forum and it does most of the work we need involuntarily

Sup Forums does not do work....

>they need help going more insane
you ever feel like maybe WE'RE the jews

>implying there is anything wrong with beating the jews at their own game
>implying you are not willing to go as far as they are in war

What if Sup Forums just created an organization called Antifa that happened to use the same logo as Antifa and accidentally co-opt their movement?

Fuck 4chins and fuck Drumpf!!!

like I have said, by meme waring them into further radicalization based of their proven method of using logical fallacy to justify violence on what they deem to be lower classes of people...Nazis...maybe carnivores...etc.

as a hive it has helped accomplish much just by virility

lol'd

agreed, they are tactics of power, not Jewish tactics
I liek dis

Our biggest weapon is the truth. The stupider these guys act the more it needs to be shown to the outside world. Look at how hard the MSM memed Charlottesville when some landwhale died of a heart attack. Despite like 600 murders in Chicago this year the MSM ran that story for weeks. They're desperate to point a finger and scream, "See! Those evil Nazis are violent and bad just like we told you!"

The best way to fight that is to catch their lies and announce them to the normies. White supremacists are not the ones killing people.

Read Bordiga. At this point anything we do nothing for our selves, false flags for them. We cannot argue for ourselves because they will not listen and they will take small recordings to use to defame us and reinforce their narrative. The only way to win is an idealogical guerrilla war without clear leaders and no clear ideology, it will not win quickly, but it cannot be defeated, meanwhile they will get tired, which is what is happening now. Most of our actions are turned against us, and they have the power, all we have are anonymity and an equal number

that is garbage, normies don't care....they are just as afraid of these labels as the virtue signalers who have already went full antifa, right is not might here, people conveniently ignore facts repeatedly, it's why we are in such a bs situation.

Right, but encouraging them to violence is morally wrong, particularly since Sup Forums is a board of peace, and you can't win this game if you give up the moral high ground.

So what you do is you take the ill-considered movement of violence on their part and use it as a force for a different direction. Jews expect the goyim to play by the rules; they are trained in the "kick the board" strategy from an early age. So what you want to do here is not think about surface observables like antifa but latent currents to upset. Now that they have set this in motion, where might it lead? Where do you want it to lead? Alternatively, where are they leading that you might like to upset?

just nurture their own foolish behaviors by assuaging their egos which is what this all boils down to...antifa and the left have a case of (being perceived as a ) "Nice Guy Syndrome"

it's all about who's having more fun on the two extremes

Currently it's more fun being an "ironically" "antisemtic" nazi than being a buttmad commie who hates america but only because of commie reasons not the real reasons

plenty of very powerful people in this world running shit from the low ground

to millennials, to the rest of us who didn't grow up in a bubble of porn and anime, it actually has more to do with values and morality than it does dank memes and narcissism

we should fight antifa while they attack normies, we have horrible PR and people are afraid of us even tho we are the ones trying to help them. saving cats from niggers and saving women from antifa will solidify our position as the defenders of people, and liberators against the false and oppressive doctrine of liberalism.

there is no point in making them look bad, they already look like utter shit, but we look worse so people keep joining them. mostly because of the one drop rule lets be honest, people think that if they have 1 great great grandfather who was greek that we will hate them and kill them on sight if we gained power. and that's a big part of why they are afraid of us. there is also the old fake nazis from the 80's who were mostly faggots larping so they could look cool while selling meth like niggers

nah, they will exploit any violent act from this side, just because it's true that you were helping those people does not mean it won't be presented as otherwise....notice the media only showed white guys beating up a black guy at that rally, not the black guy taunting them for 40 mins or jumping on a white guy first...membah?

It's really the balance between the two. Truth and humor are two fundamental principles of the universe.

to the young kids, to the recruits who eventually turn into adults, it's about having fun at that age
The perpetual victims aren't going to have fun, the plighted white man who makes light of it and posts frog pictures is at least getting some geniune laughs

don't take this board to seriously. Most people are normal irl, the unironic moral god-fearers are cringey.
I fear god but don't be a fag about it and try to stir moral panic on one of the big named worst websites in the internet

>justifying ever increasing identity based reasons to punch others
Yes, fractionate them all because no one is "pure" enough for others' ideologies
And when someone is getting close, they're annoying even to the left, and jealousy and irritation set in...

It's a net bonus. The more foot soldiers they recruit, the more people get to see for themselves what it's about.

Yeah, these are the people who followed subculture trends, they are insecure and they thrive off of using that insecurity to alienate themselves from others so that they can feel special and therfore superior. That mentality given, I imagine we could help them alienate eachother out of existence and the realization of how they were pushed out of their morally superior status would likely make them question all the ideological BS they have absorbed and to restructure they would have to apply logic...which is what happened to me 5yrs ago and why I am here fighting against antifa.

See, your problem is that you are too focused on "fighting against antifa." That fight does not actually exist except to the extent that it's been trained in to your mind as a divide and rule game. You have to look beyond the contrived conflicts if you want them to end.

This is where your advantage lies when you bring humor and truth to the table while they're stuck in the mode of reeeeeeeeee.

if you really want to get into it, we should launch a campaign of coordinates attacks against academia and journalism for spreading propaganda. personally i view forcing propaganda unto children to be as bad as tring to kill them because at least dead kids wont fuck the lives of others. anyways we should spraypaint the crime committed by a journalist or proffessor on the street in front of their house, and murder their entire family that way professors will be hated not by us but by their family members. and that is the true source of the pressure applied unto them, all the cousins and aunts and parents who dont want their son living with his professor wife anymore. of course their crimes must be recorded, proven and demonstrated before they are killed. and posted publicly so that everyone can see that abusing innocent children will be punishable by death under the alt right.

i mean... it would work. inb4 b4n

their numbers certainly help, the specificity of their actions are what gets them to MSM coverage though. We would have never heard much out of Charlottesville if an Alt-Righter didn't (supposedly) mow down the commies. Now I don't think we should incite them to specific violence but that we should nurture the division they create within themselves by pointing out more opportunities for them to classify themselves and others into smaller marginalized groups so that they use their own proven logic and tactics to alienate each other.

>Burger antifa
refusefascism.org

VS

>Lithuanian who?
antifa.lt

I think it is something in your water or genetic.

I see antifa as manageable chaos, hence why I see them as a target and what you insinuate as the target to be to big to chew.

No, there's no need to nurture division among them. They're going to divide themselves anyway. That's pissant shit that children consume themselves with while the adults are talking.

Keep your eye on the ball. What do you want out of this? That's what's going to appeal to the great masses of people who are tired and will be getting more tired of disruptive chimpout type behavior.

It's easy enough to lead them into a circular leftist paradox. For example:
If they believe people can be trans-sexual, then they must also believe people can be trans-racial. "Cis white male privilege? How dare you assume my race you trans-phobic racist bitch!"
Or
The whole male brain vs female brain thing. Trans-sexual people believe in this, feminists do not.
Or
"I'm being anti-Semitic you say? No, you're the one being anti-Islamic." Try pointing out how non-diverse and (((anti-Islamic))) media ownership hiring practices are.

I'm not suggesting anything new I just want us to use meme magic to add some gas to the tire fire...

Counter virtue signal

Listen, as long as you see them as a target and not just some casual end-of-the-evening fun then you're falling into somebody else's trap the same way they are.

I've been through this before. Remember how letting the moralfaggotry get out of control was key to ripping apart the Internet Hate Machine because, fundamentally, the new leadership maintained an unrealistic perception of opposing forces that did not actually exist and were of their own internal making?

Get them to turn on privileged white women. The whole cart will go up in flames.

Def, I've been doing this with the "Me Too" garbage myself...theres going to be a ton of left fags who regret posting thier offenses when it comes time to have any debate evar with these feminists and trans....

Patrice O'neal would toss out some props from the grave for this one....

If you have the time, please enlighten me as I would rather use your experience as a cheat sheet

Don't worry about pouring gas in the fire. They'll do that on their own. Think more like fanning the flames like farting into the fire.

Nah you're the kind of guy who emphasized the internal tensions necessary to fracture the whole thing apart where it belonged.

Remind whites in Antifa that they are inherently racist on a genetic level

Awesome, you managed to make yourself feel better at my expense....your movement will fail as well by your own account....

Jon Liebowitz being smug comedian to Bow Tie Tucker worked, because daily show wasn't buttmad or serious

Nowadays the smug elite are too angry while continually being dumb,
people of rational thought can counter that with fun ways of redpills
Just gotta have more fun than the commies

Should convince them to disarm the police for Black people that BLM is having a "Day of Action" and SLW and BLM supporters all together are going to grab police officer's guns and take them to save black people lives.

Stop taking the knee start taking their guns!

I don't have a movement. There is nothing to fail and nothing to lose. See how to play the game yet?

btw
>the game

we don't have PC guidelines so we have the upper hand in comedy

nigga I been trollin here since 05' so I will now abandon yer ass

I have thought for the longest time that comedy should challenge your worldview
If it feels wrong to laugh at something then it is truly funny

Fake leftist twitter accounts that make “sexist”/“racist”/“insensitive” etc. arguments in favor of leftist talking points

but y u mad tho

guys trying to encourage infighting within antifa is pointless, you cant possibly do a better job at it than they already are themselves

youre a fucking nigger
>the game

I just wanted to remind you that you just lost it again.

the left is such a mess with different interest groups it cant be hard to get them to kill each other

It's an extension of their satanic (((self-destructive))) mindset. That's all they know. It's a modern-day version of slavery; a power game.

When they're that myopic, it's trolling on easymode.

RP nogs against ((them))

Make the left hate the antisemitic slimes

????

HDNW

Here again, wrong mindset. They'll come up with their own natural internal divisions. Force it on them and they'll tend to unify against a perceived """enemy."""

No. Let them find enemies among themselves. How did Occupy burn out and die? They had the poison from within of the RAND Corporation's Delphi Method. That was merely a seed that needed to be planted decades in advance back in the 60s to bear fruit during a generational resurgence of retards. Don't get tricked in to thinking short-term.

im sure theyll love this

have them turn on gays for their privilege as being usually of higher incomes than comparable straight people. Have them turn on cool people for not checking their style/charisma privilege, egg on their cultural Marxism until they rip each other to shreds and their movement splinters into 1,001 even weaker and ineffective groups. Just like what happened with Occupy Wall Street

chisineu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/saul-alinsky-rules-for-radicals-1989.pdf

Read this, then use it against Antifa.

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I have no desire to fight people, save anything (not even cats), or be associated with this shithole when I'm not online. I think any user who outs himself in public is a fuckin tool who deserves the ass beating he will surely get.

Nah, they're regrouping on all that for now. Did you watch the DNC convention?

You always have to look forward to the next trends they're setting up. We LITERALLY had students freaking out that somebody wrote "trump" in chalk on the sidewalk in a place where everybody writes everything in chalk on a sidewalk. I saw them write stuff about some Christian fellowship in chalk on the sidewalk and nobody gave a shit.

Use their intersectionality against them. Play the races of antifa members against each other and they'll turn on each and tear each other apart or lose morale and stall.

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Don't engage. Anti-fa is making asses out of themselves, the same way Black Lives Matter ruined themselves.
>Act like a bunch of violent thugs, chanting nonsense and yelling at everyone who disagrees with you
>Film yourselves doing it
>As with any large, unorganized movement, people join regardless of the cause just to incite violence
>Quickly there becomes enough damning footage, arrests, and evidence for people to make compilation videos on YouTube
>Journalists and bloggers start writing about how harmful the movement is and disproving the 'facts' that the movement is based on
>No public support. Energy fizzles out. Movement dies.

If you're going to focus on squashing a threat, find an actual threat.

Then troll them into doing stupid/abhorrent IRL/Social Media stunts like Sup Forums when they tricked radical feminists into thinking "freebleeding" was a new trend. No shit, this site got strong independent women to straight up menstruate in public, without pads and tampons, the flow wrecking whatever shitty outfit they had on

Start a war between antifa and BLM. Spread rumors that all whites at BLM riots are undercover cops.

Do you know what I saw on garbage day last week?

This was in front of high value housing. I can't tell if it's owned or rented, really. But there on the sidewalk.
>there it was
>pussy pads strewn about
>with blood on them
>on garbage day
The garbage negroes noped out of that one correctly. Leave that bitch and her pussy pads out on the sidewalk for all to see in a high traffic area.

I've never seen anything like that before.

The left already has a problem destroying themselves. The best strategy is to make that work in our favor.

Another strategy is to keep doing what we are doing, and Trump keeps forcing the conversation into daily rants about whatever it is he said or tweeted. The left doesn't have time to breathe. It works quite well

>How do we get the Uber-Left to eat themselves?

Keep triggering them into violence or continuing their stupidity.

Pilling nogs on ((them)) is not short sighted. Its already starting to happen, but very slowly. Too slowly to gain significant traction. This should be a major focus, because once the nogs learn the differance between whites and ((them)), ((they)) lose a substantial force in the SJW army. We need the nogs to be on our side.

Have you ever lived among them? Nigs gon nog. There's no "our side" about it.

They fell for it

Become their scapegoat. This is now an Antifa board.

I literally had to step around them. All the rest of the trash except for some bits and pieces had been collected as normal.

OP there's really not much left (da-dum-tss) to do; they're entire organization is about 26% 'insiders' at this point. You'd be surprised how easy Art students are to bait. The goal is to make them a laughing stock by Christmas; but as Trump says; we're underbudget and ahead of schedule.

:)

Dude, even nogs can be on our side once they get redpilled on how liberals are even more racist than the far right.

Why do you think the left is all about affirmative action, social programs and subsidized housing? Its not for actual concern for black folks, its since they look down on them like little simple children and need all the help they can. Notice a lot of the champagne socialists are all keen for integration for any parts of town but their own, what does that tell you?

Alright Goys, some ideas. Critique them:

1) Continue self improvement. Be the person that deserves the movement. Lift, clean your life up, educate yourself.

2) Encourage identity politics. Not only are they right, but they continue to marginalize the moderate. The left will keep making the white man the enemy, forcing the centrist or fence-sitter to move into our camp.

3) Support people in our movement who are overt. Support TRS. Support Anglin. It all helps.

4) Become involved in white community. Improve your people's lives.

Man that's nasty

Cocaine $10 please

idgaf

I live around lots of blax and I relax. What more is there to care about since the local crime statistics tell you where the armed robbery is going to occur?

I think you're confusing niggers with black people

There is a HUGE difference. I grew up in a place with some black folks, but this was a upper income town so you have the kids of black people that had degrees and jobs in pro fields driving normal cars, not some blunt smoking Jamals in some 20 year old Lincoln riding on chrome 26" spinnaz

>Being delusional about differences in race

user, you can't ignore biology.

I spent a certain number of years in one of the local black hives. Oh the stories I could tell. The regular working people are fine, and there was the occasional boss negro who kept them in line. But really they for the most part had easier prey in the dumbass side of town than wanting to mess with people who might turn around and mess back.

As of now, we have already conducted targeted meme warfare and found symbols of sjwness such as Shia Ledouche's faggy flag and took them down.

What we need to do thats NEW is what Steven Crowder did - go undercover, infiltrate Antifa and EXPOSE their violent plans. Join their groups, their inner circles their rallies and show the world!

Its a combination of both

Well meme'd sir

>Join their groups, their inner circles their rallies and show the world!
This is correct. That's how I know about Occupy's rhizome coordination system, and why it was important to push the Germany vs. Sweden meme to kick off the realization that there was a muslim invasion underway.

A combination of what?

Basically you're making the argument: black people inculcated in white culture and white values turn out okay.

Okay.

Let's take a peek at exclusively black societies. Hell, let's take a peek at how black communities function.

And we dump money and resources into trying to fix a disparity that inevitably comes down to biology.

I say, let our people associate with our own, be self determined, and have our own land free of people of other cultures. Let's let Africa stay african, Japan stay Japanese, and so forth.

The nogs gotta know

Thats a good idea! Prodding their divisiveness for more infighting. Antifa and BLM, prod the white-black and rich-poor dichotomy. Say that Antifa is is stealing the flame from BLM, give them more fame and watch BLM start to resent!

Convince them that CNN is run by racists that are out to get them. Convince BLM simultaneously that CNN is racist because of all the white women anchors they have.

Infiltrate their social media groups and real social groups like Steven Crowder, get their plans and either go to the Police or the Proud boys/fraternal order of the alt knights.

When we infiltrate them, also suggest INSANE PR stunts that reveal even more how ludicrous they are!

Promote Antifa to BLm's resentment through memes.