What do you think of her?

What do you think of her?

Reading the Fountainhead at the moment and eatched her interview. Never saw a more based philosopher than her.

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The future of the world. The reich is rising.

Stop trying to be hip

When I talk about her philosophy all types of women start giving me that look of desire. Also, if you play audio of Ayn Rand to a fetus, it will be born a genius.

shes probably had a smelly roast beef vagina

>conservative retard pretending to be liberal retard pretending to be conservative retard pretending to be liberal retard pretending to be conservative retard
Holy fuck this one went deep.

Read Atlas Shrugged tears ago - It was in my Dad's collection - Awesome read. Makes you realize when the pussyfication of America started.

Ayn was a cool lady even if she was a bit autistic. Her philosophy isn't great IMO but it's at least interesting.

She is a pretty good start, but there are a a few inconsistent points in her philosophy. But never the less, she brought me to ancapism.

She was right that great men change the world. She was wrong that her philosophy is the natural conclusion of that. Think about Kings. Great Kings were never only in it for themselves. Great men should care about more than themselves. This isn't a contradiction. Great men have a responsibility to make the world a better place.

Is it really worth reading Atlas Shrugged? I downloaded a PDF version of it and it's around 1000 pages ffs

yes absolutely

Monarchs are raised from birth to lead us. Democracy is a sham.

>Never saw a more based philosopher than her.
>says nobody with an iota of experience reading philosophy

"""philosopher"""

ahahahaha

She can't even construct a framework that operates within her own fiction without use of deus ex machina.

What a tiny little mind you have to have not even noticed that.

Sup Forums is all pageantry now.

What interview

>Democracy is a sham.
Anyone who's ever interviewed random folks on the street in a semi-large metropolitan area should be able to come to this conclusion without much thought. God people are dumb.

Rand is pretty based but she's got nothing on Diogenes.

It's an incredibly inspiring ideal that probably doesn't work out in real life. Although after I read The Fountainhead I didn't think "yay capitalism", I thought "yay passion and hard-work". I don't like that Rand seems to only exist as a battleground for communism versus capitalism

giv medicaid plz

Roark was an autist who destroys private property due to a disagreement with a person who isn't even the owner of the property. He should have sued Keating instead of engaging in a terrorist bombing of a highrise belonging to Keating's clients.

The Fountainhead is responsible for the destruction of classical architecture.

if you took Atlas Shrugged and used all of Rand's arguments for white people instead of business owners, Sup Forums would praise it constantly, but most of them are brainlets so they don't even consider her arguments because "hurr durr Jew"

When you read more you will be embarrassed that you ever thought she was based

Rand is just another atheist faggot. Anyone who takes her world as anything more than a pitiful joke is indeed himself, truly, a fool.

She's a jew so it's all degeneracy, fuck off with this kike shit, her shills need to get the fuck of Sup Forums

>spook

like any philosophy remotely tied to libertarianism it gets misinterpreted a thousand times over and generally the author isn't interested in clarifying their position since debate sells copies. It's a fantastic novel but that's really all that can be said for it.

To be fair using Rand's ideas for racially-based reasons kinda undermines her philosophy of anti-collectivism. Not that it can't be done but if she were alive she'd probably start screeching about it.

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Hitler was deeply influenced by Dietrich Eckart, a German journalist and playwright. Eckart, in turn, based much of his worldview on that of Otto Weininger, a jew.

>and Keating, take the damn ducks off the door.

Haha!

Hey, even Hitler took a ton of influence from (((Otto Weininger))), my man.

Yeah right hahahshah

She's great but she triggers Sup Forums for having Jewish heritage but rejecting tribalism.

>Roark was an autist who destroys private property due to a disagreement with a person who isn't even the owner of the property.
...the government owned it...as they were paying for it...and action of government employees are why Roark destroyed the housing unit.
...check your premises
Onlookers will agree.

Working for others, and respecting property rights, are BOTH self-intereested actions.

Wether knowingly or unknowingly Ayn Rand' s philosophy is a subversion of true objectivist philosophy. She was an interesting person and wrote good and usefully books that helped influence lots of people but she is part of the reason western society is in the mess it is in. True objectivist philosophy should not have involved her at all, the three people who best laid down objectivist philosophy were Socrates, Aristotle and st. Thomas Aquinas. Now after stating that I want to be clear that you must separate Aquinas' philosophy from his religion.

Rand is god- brainlets haven't the capacity to understand.
If you disagree with Rand- check your premises.

>a premiere philosopher was religious
>objective

>her

I don't care what he chose to do in his private life (that's his business) but I refuse to observe this delusion of people "becoming" a different sex by taking some drugs and having an operation.
I will always have respect Peter Lorre as an actor and a person but I won't capitulate to political correctness.

I've only read the virtue of selfishness
her provocative morality hit the nail on the head and clarified my stances in life, which was necessary to improve it
if you found the morality behind /cleanyourroom/ spineless, this will do it

reminder that this glorious capitalist individualist ended up living on collectivist government instituted welfare.

>her shills need to get the fuck of Sup Forums
Not until you spell check your shitposts.

Philosophy for the simple mind.
With 15 I would have maybe liked it.

>Philosophy for the simple mind.
Check your premises.

Yes goy, let corporations govern over you. Be a selfish piece of shit and don't care about community and your people. Also racism is bad !

I think she's a tosser. Not to be taken seriously.

I dislike her disdain for altruism. It's a negation of National Socialism.

Her description of D.C. as a network of looters is rather neat.

objectivism is a typical Jewish movement that inverts the norms of our society ("greater good" -> "greed is good", here) so as to facilitate the expansion of Jewish power

i'd say it worked

Honorary Aryan

Our society today is anything but "objectivist", in fact it's become more and more like the socialist nightmare she envisioned.

Also an honorary man

Eh, the 2nd half takes a nosedive. I'd say read until they meet John Galt and continue only if you really like it.

fpbp

I got half way through the book, kinda got the message being pumped into me over and over again and figured there was no additional conclusions to make from the book. Does anything good or important or eye-opening happen after Ginger starts having sex with the girl?

>This is what Brainlet Fugs readers actually believe
What the fuck are you talking about?
The capital gains tax and the top personal income tax rates are lower in the US now than they were when Atlas Shrugged was written.
On top of that private income of the top 1% has never been higher at any point in history. So where's this fucking magical John Galt Utopia you faggot retard idiot pieces of shit keep droning on about?

I was more thinking in regards to the welfare state and prevailing aura of cultural marxism. We may not have outright socialism yet but a significant portion of the population seems to be becoming more and more open to the idea.

Live for yourself, there's no one else
More worth living for.

Oh and a bump for Campos

As you can see here general welfare spending as a percentage of the federal budget hasn't actually changed much over the years.
It was actually at an all time low when Rand wrote Atlas Shrugged (So I don't know what the fuck she was crying about).

What has increased is Social Security (old people) and Medicaid spending (again, mostly old people). So I'll give you the cultural marxism part. That has largely assaulted the traditional family structure. Families used to all live together and take care of the senior citizens needs themselves. But I don't see anybody volunteering to let gran gran move in. And for that we have only ourselves to blame for social security at least.

Don't get pulled into perpetuating Jewish lies by dubious statistics.
>Muh nominalized dollar spending.
Is completely irrelevant.

Society is more socialist than ever and the welfare state is bigger than ever, and quality of life is markedly worse due to it
>REEE THIS IS WHAT RAND WANTED

A kike

>going off federal total and not GDP
>actually believing welfare hasn't increased despite our massive amounts of immigration
>being this much of a brainlet
Either you're deliberately spreading misinformation for some reason, or you honestly believe the United States is becoming more capitalist and less socialist (which puts you near the ~80 IQ region)
>arguing with a leaf about welfare
Maybe I'm the brainlet

she veils her non-content in fancy words

>welfare spending as a percentage of the federal budget hasn't actually changed much over the years
>it literally tripled over the last 60 years
Did you think nobody would read the chart you posted?

You'll never get real discussion about Ayn Rand on Sup Forums, too many brainlets that never read her work on the meme train.

Her ideas are whatever. But as an actual philosopher, its philosophy in diapers.

Sup Forums really isn't a place for intellectual discussion at all desu. It's like a designated place for memes and shitposting coated in semi-irony.

disgusting rat

Ayn Rand, aka Alisa Rosenbaum, was just another Jew writing shitty books to poison the mind of the goy.

She was also a total hypocrite who preached self sufficiency and then took gubment cheese(Social Security).

She was on gibs when she died.

You can always test someone's ideaology by drawing it out to its extreme conclusion. For example, if health care is a right then you must be willing to force a child into becoming a doctor and then force that doctor to work for the government.

Rand draws laize fair capitalism out to its extreme conclusion in her books and I still find myself agreeing with her ideaology. It is truly the most fair system.

Remember when the mods made a containment board for the cancer, and then did jack shit to curb the shitty threads?

Then what is?

>took gubment cheese(Social Security).

Getting her money back from the government is welfare now?

You're obviously new to philosophy.

her filosophy is jewish as fuck

An advocate of big government policies.

We pay into Social Security every paycheck. So it's smart to take it when you get old. I am taking my share back when I retire if all the illegals haven't sucked it dry before then.

>Atlas Shrugged is the most popular book in US after the Bible

Top kek.

Maybe if you're still a teenager, otherwise it's a shit book. Pretend you're reading the communist manifesto but capitalist

>We may not have outright socialism yet

First of all I disagree. Nearly 35% the workforce in the 1960s was part of a union. Now it's less than 10%(The chart only goes to 2004). So union membership is below what it was before the Great depression.

The individualistic ideas of Ayn Rand were instrumental in destroying unions during the 1970s and 1980s because unions were a form of collective bargaining, it was argued.

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> but a significant portion of the population seems to be becoming more and more open to the idea.

You're confusing the cause with the effect. People are more open to the idea because they went from being able to support a family with one male breadwinner to barely threading water with two white collar breadwinners. This entire time inequality has soared to the level it was before the Great Depression.

From what I read, most ideas seem good.

/Bant/

>Pretend you're reading the communist manifesto but capitalist

One teaches you that you are responsible for your own actions. The other says it’s okay to steal from others. Not at all the same thing.

The idea she proposes is simple and true, but she is a great writer to boot.
It doesnt take an ultra high iq to realize anything less than 100% free market = poor inferior worthless people biting the hand that feeds them and expecting to always be fed as their right

Classical architecture was shit anyway. As you can see in the Fountainhead, Art Deco will be the style of the future

As opposed to when an Ayn Rand worshiping Paul Ryan voted to hand wall street nearly a Trillion dollars.

youtube.com/watch?v=eQUi5GhLoR4

>100% free market

There is no such thing.

well.....

Rand had a surprising amount of praise for unions. They actually have an interesting history, at one time they were the loudest champions of certain individual rights.

>Rand was born Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum (Russian: Aли́ca Зинoвьeвнa Poзeнбayм) on February 2, 1905, to a Russian Jewish bourgeois[12] family living in Saint Petersburg.

> poor inferior worthless people biting the hand that feeds them and expecting to always be fed as their right

Here's another blast from the past. Greenspan was in Ayn Rand's inner circle of followers

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"Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan is defending the three-point-six (3.6) billion (b) U-S dollar private bailout of a major hedge fund last week."

Ayn Rand's ideas are just a cheap rationalization for stealing from us dregs and handing it to the moneyed class.

>Rand had a surprising amount of praise for unions.


Ayn Rand had unions pegged best when she declared their purpose has never been to empower the average worker. “Unions and trade associations,” she wrote, “are not directed against employers or the public but against the best among their own members.” The goal has never been about “raising the weak in any way whatever, but simply forcing the strong down to the level of the moron.”

The artificially high wages forced on the economy by compulsory unionism imposed economic hardships on other groups--particularly on non-union workers and on unskilled labor, which was being squeezed gradually out of the market. Today's widespread unemployment is the result of organized labor's privileges and of allied measures, such as minimum wage laws. For years, the unions supported these measures and sundry welfare legislation, apparently in the belief that the costs would be paid by taxes imposed on the rich.
Source: The Ayn Rand Letter, I/23/2, by Ayn Rand Jan 1, 1979

“Collectivism has lost the two crucial weapons that raised it to world power and made all of its victories possible: intellectuality and idealism, or reason and morality. It had to lose them precisely at the height of its success, since its claim to both was a fraud: the full, actual reality of socialist-communist-fascist states has demonstrated the brute irrationality of collectivist systems and the inhumanity of altruism as a moral code.” - Ayn Rand