Phoenix Rising - After the Collapse

* 8 key points - to ensure that National Socialism is the power that rises from the ashes of this world:

>(1) End degeneracy:
- Crush rampant alcoholism (provide health care/mental health services).
- Put an end to drug addiction (as above).
- Destroy the porn industry.
- Stricter sentences for animal abusers (including death for extreme cases of abuse).
- Pedophiles sterilised. Serious offenders and repeat offenders put to death.
- Extortion of all types made illegal (usury, unfair wages and working conditions, etc).
- Promote family values.
- Censor hyper-sexualised media content.
- Censor all degenerate forms of art.

>(2) Warrior Culture:
- Build a powerful military based on Prussian traditions.
- Only males can serve in the military.
- Promote family values (more white babies).
- Shape society to be as patriotic as possible.

>(3) SEVERELY limit immigration
- Help lower the unemployment rate of citizens.
- Allow necessary skilled foreign labourers to work on temporary visas (at highly taxed rates).
- Allow unskilled foreign labourers to work on temporary visas (at highly taxed rates) to fill voids in industries that are undesirabled to citizens (i.e. janitors, etc)

>(4) ONLY citizens can purchase real estate:
- Confiscate all real-estate owned by foreigners.
- Redistribute housing based on individual merit.

>(5) Return the wealth to the people:
- **Universal Basic Income = ensure that everybody has dignity (see point 7).
- Quality education provided by the state .
- Meaningful employment opportunities provided by the state (e.g. arbeitsdienst).
- Quality health-care provided by the state.

>(6) Build monuments:
- Make the people proud and inspire them to further greatness.
- Display our might to our enemies.
- Acknowledge the triumphs of our glorious past.
- Remind the people that they are the ones that are creating history.

Other urls found in this thread:

ato.gov.au/Business/Excise-and-excise-equivalent-goods/Alcohol-excise/Excise-rates-for-alcohol/
youtube.com/watch?v=lJjB7oEXjmU
youtu.be/LNISakxRYCU
youtu.be/Ulj61LxQgTI
baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_composers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_inventors_and_discoverers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_inventions_and_discoveries
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
youtu.be/p-TT7GoJ2iw
books.google.com.au/books?id=r-dMAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA529&lpg=PA529&dq=hitler he came out of nowhere&source=bl&ots=M1fQGkwKUN&sig=XrqADfmmn13yscWtVOXeYM2WkIY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNj6bXgILXAhWJKpQKHb9CAMEQ6AEINjAF#v=onepage&q=hitler he came out of nowhere&f=false
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>(7) Develop industry that operates ethically:
- End the degenerate animal abuse that occurs in the meat and dairy industries.
- Put an end to consumerism with counter-propaganda.
- Produce necessary/useful products in a sustainable manner.
- **Develop machines that are able to do all the unpleasant, undesirable and dangerous jobs.

>(8) Showcase our perfect model to the world:
- They will either accept it or reject it.
- Either way, our system will conquer.

>Overall: it will take time and we should be prepared for a struggle. I suspect that National Socialism will only return when we are facing Anarchy. It will probably take years to cleanse Australia of degeneracy after the collapse, North America and Europe may take even longer.

>UBI will not be a topic of discussion on the first day - it will be a long-term goal. It may not be sustainable on a long-term basis within the National Socialist model until machines are developed that can fill ALL of the unpleasant, undesirable and dangerous occupations.

>Quality education and health care are necessities. We want our people to be resourceful and we need them to be strong.

seems gud, aside from #5

communities should be in charge of themselves when it comes to education/employment

just make sure theres no jewish influence around and it should be fine

>Quality health-care provided by the state
That would be literal communism.

>Crush rampant alcoholism
ABSOLUTELY UNAUSTRALIAN. GO BACK TO CHINA CUNT.

Degenerate alcoholic.

Fuck off back to China

Some aspects of communism are simply common sense

Communism tacks on a lot of bullshit that doesn't work and that's why it's failed. Or rather, it's designed to fail. Anything that sounds good is superfluous sweetener to sell the ideology when in reality you ain't getting none of that good stuff

Enjoy funding ZOG goyim.

ato.gov.au/Business/Excise-and-excise-equivalent-goods/Alcohol-excise/Excise-rates-for-alcohol/

Counter propaganda sounds like you would be leaving the current jew minding in place. Furthermore, shouldn’t there be some primal revenge taken on the people now in charge. Would that help our collective psyche or harm it.

It's employed successfully by tons of non-communist countries.
Also nobody said the state has to be the sole provider or that provate health care providers can't exist alongside government ones.

fuck out of here you socialist scum

Unfortunately, this will never work out without first addressing the root cause of all the issues NatSoc seeks to remedy. It's not going to be possible to fix any of this unless a final, definitive answer to the jewish question is finally found. You need to put a stop to the jew's scheming and subversion and unfortunately there is not going to be any easy or peaceful solutions. And hoping armageddon takes care of the problem isn't a solution, because they have plans for continuity of their empire and continuation of their reign of the planet in such an event. They will just emerge from their secret places and resume business as usual if they are not taken care of before any rebuilding of society happens.

Ideals are well and good but the sad truth is that blood is going to need to be spilled before any of this can come to fruition. The enemy is so deeply entrenched in all facets of society and civilization that removing them from power will be a cataclysm itself.

NatSoc can't afford to rush in blindly and half cocked. It needs to build its power base, it needs to rally the people behind it, and it needs the clout to challenge the jew for supremacy when the time comes.

I really know people don't desire conflict, but the unfortunate truth is, conflict is going to be the only way the future will be changed.

There is nothing long with socialism when it is coupled to mass murder. People who cry about it will simply be killed.

ehhehehehe chink

>shouldn’t there be some primal revenge taken on the people now in charge
This will most likely take part at the end of the struggle I referred to. In any case, it goes without saying so I didn't bother mentioning it.

By the way, extremely strange. Each time I post threads about National Socialism, my ISP drops my connection for about 15 minutes and gives me a new IP address.

>pic related

Australian internet

So let me get this straight; I, as a Brit, should follow Prussian values, the values of the failed state, compared to the History of the British Empire?

Well I guess you can have your tea and crumpets if you want them Nigel.

How should that point be addressed?

In order to accomplish this, we must first create a state of our own for when shit hits the fan, and we are too.
youtube.com/watch?v=lJjB7oEXjmU

My internet has never gone down until I started posting threads on here.

Yes.

So why should I bow down to the inferior culture of a bunch of Larping Leftover Saxons unable to dredge themselves from sucking at some rich Italians toes?

My people forged the greatest Empire in History and ushered in the Age of Industry for mankind.

Why should I even consider Hans and his inbred ilk anything more than Satisfactory Factory workers and half-decent beermakers?

people are too immunized against natsoc ideals. it will take a conflict of a massive scale before we can raise it from collective despise and honestly i dont see a war on that scale comming in the future.

a race war doesnt seem likely seeing the propaganda machine and the strong hand of zog there to aid any resistance to it. because of this we need mass support and we cant get mass support when the lemmings shudder at the mention of "nhat-zees".

i think varg is right when he says let it all collapse and try pick up the pieces but after that it will be too late to become a kardashev type 1 civilosation and humanity will fade away

sick meme bro. fuck agruments n shit

This model is primarily aimed at Australia, you can adapt it so suit your own nation's requirements. Self-determination should be the right of your people.

For my part, I would rather follow this:
youtu.be/LNISakxRYCU

than this:
youtu.be/Ulj61LxQgTI

hows that british empire holding up?

>varg is right when he says let it all collapse and try pick up the pieces but after
That's exactly what we're waiting for. We can't take on the United States alone by ourselves so we're going to wait it out and establish our network while the country is still intact. Look out for /esg/ they talk frequently about the topic.

Not bad.

How is Nazi Germany?

>it will take a conflict of a massive scale

please see:
>I suspect that National Socialism will only return when we are facing Anarchy.

>Aussies should pretend to be Nazis instead of being British.

Sorry Xing Zhong, maybe you should go back to eating dogs in Shanghai like a good little chink.

>not bad

> universal basic income
Yes, enable the degenerates and slackers to degenerate and slack.

> return wealth to the people
Sounds like communism not NatSoc

You others from out of country should join us. Your countries were sold off long long ago and there's no taking it back from them now. If we focus our numbers in one area and build up an army we can ride out the storm and then reclaim our homelands.

Existing as a country is still better than not existing.

by that time people are going to care about hunting ducks and mice for food more than the ideal government

see:

>UBI will not be a topic of discussion on the first day...

Why would a bunch of anime masturbating homosexuals and non-whites (Sup Forums) support this?

Go back to stormfront normie, you'll never take my hyper sexualized little girl cartoons.

can you really call britain a nation? youre just a country, a place where people live

you lost just as badly as the huns

At least the National Socialist Germans went out with a bang. You Brits have disgraced yourselves by allowing yourselves to be chipped away at until nothing glorious exists any more.

To see the British Empire fall to such depravity is depressing.

>80% white
>In a country which I agree has lost it's spine

While I agree our country is in a bit of a slump, Emulating our defeated enemies sounds like folly.

>At least the Germans failed impressively.

That, my friend, is hilarious.

Your country was handed over to shitskins, your women and children are slaughtered in the streets and your government holds more priority over controlling racist rhetoric than it does protecting its citizens.
You're no longer a country but you can be again if you take it back.

baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm
Alcoholism is not a disease; being a drunk is socially unacceptable and heavily penalized.

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Fuck UBI. its literally socialism.

you can earn benefits by military service

>T-Take it back
>By aping some German inbreds rise to power by blaming innocent people.

Let me make this quite simple, Why would I ever follow in the footsteps of a German? Probably the most inept of all European races?

britian didnt defeat nazi germany, russia and to a lesser extent america. then america defeated the russians

why would you defend the political system your masters use to control you?

See, the funny thing is Germany is doing that all off it's own back too, and in a greater way.

>posting a Strawman ball

>why would you defend the political system your masters use to control you?

Why would I ape the Political system of those defeated?

See, This is why I don't get nazi Larpers, you inbreds legit want to be state controled slaves.

You're not following in the footsteps of a german you're following the path that leads to getting your country out of the hands of filthy rich kikes.

>what is manditory military service

>Probably the most inept of all European races

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_composers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_inventors_and_discoverers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_inventions_and_discoveries

Oh now I understand, you just don't like German people. Nice argument.

Very few of these can be credited to "Prussian ideals"

Which is my point, you Nazi inbreds know fuck all.

i agree that national socialism need to be updated for the 21st century and that each clountry will have their own approach

but thats literally what OP, who is a fag, is sugesting. people only like the nazi iconography because its the last untainted counter culter symbol

thats why the larp

You seem upset. It must be frustrating to be unable to debate ideas without getting mad.

>Australia???
Sorry mate that's Chinese territory.

>Censor all degenerate forms of art.
Define art, then define degenerate art.

>Only males can serve in the military.
I like how the Soviets had tons of women in their army. I also like how the Soviets stomped the Wehrmacht.

> Allow unskilled foreign labourers to work on temporary visas (at highly taxed rates) to fill voids in industries that are undesirabled to citizens (i.e. janitors, etc)
Why not just automate these undesirable positions?

>Confiscate all real-estate owned by foreigners.
Watch all foreign investment in your nation vanish overnight.

>Build monuments
Enjoy spending billions on projects that achieve nothing.

>National Socialism
You lost once and you'll probably keep loosing if you keep living in the past.

I could debate ideas all day, but that is not what this thread is for is it?

You forgot the weeding out of foreign parasyties such as jews,niggers,gypsys etc.But the rest is just fine by me,it sound ideal desu.

>I like how the Soviets had tons of women in their army. I also like how the Soviets stomped the Wehrmacht.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
o im laffin

>Define art, then define degenerate art.
I will decide when the time comes.
>I also like how the Soviets stomped the Wehrmacht.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

>Why not just automate these undesirable positions?
Please see:
UBI will not be a topic of discussion on the first day...

It will take time to develop and manufacture the necessary machines. This is also why we will need a quality education system - we will need some truly innovative engineers.

I'm not going to bother responding to the other points because you're clearly just trying to insult me and National Socialism in general rather than debate the ideas.

>muh natsoc revolution
There are no leaders out there to pick up the torch, wake up dumbass.

Of course this thread is about debating ideas. Why else would I have posted it? The ideas will not improve if I keep them in the echo chamber of my own mind now will they?

I can take criticism, even when it isn't constructive.

Adolf Hitler basically came out of nowhere, why is it so hard to believe that another man like that will appear?

>Adolf Hitler basically came out of nowhere
t. idiot

He's not wrong so yeah you do look like a fucking idiot.

Oh look, another fucking idiot who never bothered to read a single Hitlerian book.
Strong leadership doesn't come out of nowhere goofus.

>Define art, then define degenerate art
youtu.be/p-TT7GoJ2iw

>I like how the Soviets had tons of women in their army. I also like how the Soviets stomped the Wehrmacht.
see
also america has prooven that women bring down combat effectiveness

>Why not just automate these undesirable positions?
who is going to invet the toilet-bot 2000 and the lolipop lady tron?

>Watch all foreign investment in your nation vanish overnight
the same will happen if you ban usury, tard. its better to have infastructure and a motivated populace as opposed to some fiat bullshit that kikes wipe their asses with. debt based economies are pathetic

>Enjoy spending billions on projects that achieve nothing
kinda agree on this point but it'll help boost national moral if done right

>You lost once and you'll probably keep loosing if you keep living in the past
>uses pirate fleg because is the edgiest soros shill

>*see

hitler was just some cuck working for a newspaper who was sent to report on the nsdap and liked what he saw. sounds like he came out of nowhere

>It will probably take years to cleanse Australia of degeneracy after the collapse, North America and Europe may take even longer.
The Peoples Liberation Army will likely be doing the cleansing.

>Define art, then define degenerate art.
>I will decide when the time comes.
Do you actually know anything about art?

>I'm not going to bother responding to the other points because you're clearly just trying to insult me and National Socialism in general rather than debate the ideas.
You have a histrionic personality and personalize everything. The other points are valid what is the point of building a great number of monuments that could easily be destroyed. Every monument that is destroyed is a propaganda victory for your enemy. Every monument built diverts labor and capital from productive ventures.

>It will take time to develop and manufacture the necessary machines. This is also why we will need a quality education system - we will need some truly innovative engineers.
The machines already exist or will exist soon.

>being this retarded

books.google.com.au/books?id=r-dMAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA529&lpg=PA529&dq=hitler he came out of nowhere&source=bl&ots=M1fQGkwKUN&sig=XrqADfmmn13yscWtVOXeYM2WkIY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNj6bXgILXAhWJKpQKHb9CAMEQ6AEINjAF#v=onepage&q=hitler he came out of nowhere&f=false

>being even more retarded by replying to babby's first negro trolling

>National Socialism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. Both could work, but only if pursued in totality. And that is where the crux of it is. All force will naturally be met with equal force. That is why the cold war happened, that is why the second World War happened. Both political systems are truely fascist in the original meaning of the word, "binding as/in one". Yet they make the mistake of wanting to fight ,which is a massive waste of resources and logistics. Centrism is the way to go. You must learn and show true superiority in all things, especially morality and knowledge, and then they will want to be part of you, become you. That is the way you can rule a planet.

Some people actually believe the trolls

>implying britain isn't a failed state

So literally Hitler was right and people are starting to finally realise this so many decades later?

>"I believe that one day that those same people who condemn us, will one day join us"- Adolf Hitler

>- Destroy the porn industry.

good luck with that

>result 2 of 4 in this book for hitler came out of nowhere - - View all
Oh gee, at least you can google. Now google the election results in germany from 1926 to 1934 and post results :)

>Define art, then define degenerate art
>youtu.be/p-TT7GoJ2iw

I agree that is completely degenerate, also I didn't even bother watching. I wouldn't even call it art.

>the same will happen if you ban usury, tard. its better to have infastructure and a motivated populace as opposed to some fiat bullshit that kikes wipe their asses with. debt based economies are pathetic
I agree, the current economic system is complete trash.

>uses pirate fleg because is the edgiest soros shill
Regarding the pirate flag, it's the most appropriate.

Except Communism has never worked.
National Socialism did and the International Jews got terrified that their system had been eradicated in central Europe and feared the same fate continent wide and eventually worldwide with Nat-Soc movements in every nation that appeal to the natives of those nations.

>I display that a simple google search can prove that the exact term "he came out of nowhere" is published in The Oxford Companion to Comparative Politics
>apparently this isn't relevant

>Hitler was sent by an agency to write a report on the nationalist movement. He saw something he could work with and talked them into his paranoid view of things. Worked greatly, because people are dumb.

Best way to end porn is with an eye for an eye type system.
>You star in a porno, you get your dick chopped off or vagina mutilated.
>Get caught watching porn you get the same punishment.
No one would star in a porno if it meant having your genitals destroyed not would you watch it

>i will decide when the time comes
No, you won't decide anything. You won't be the next hitler, or even a gestapo member, you'll be part of the slave cast that has to follow the morality of the people you put in charge.
And going off Germany, even if you live a perfect life, if somone on the top desires somthing of yours, they'll frame you for degeneracy and longknife you

I feel the only way NatSoc or Fascism in general to spring out is if it comes naturally as a response to Communism and social destruction. No one in the first world is suffering from this, and wont for a long time(unless BLM/AntiFa start going full blown Bolshevik, which I doubt since they are full of literal limpwristed faggots and dykes).

Throughout history, there has always been an action and reaction to certain events. People wont rally behind NatSoc(or anything relating to Nazi Germany laws), unless they're desperate and it's the only available option to deter from the evils of jews and commies.

How about people who subscribe to it are killed too?

>leftist
>cannot grasp memes, poor sense of humour

see:
>I suspect that National Socialism will only return when we are facing Anarchy...

Untill you are framed by people trying to climb the ladder of power and have your dick cut off by the morality police

proof of psychic powers or gtfo

Its easy to be honest.
Its all located in two primary hubs at least the porn that 97% of people watch. You could probably shut them down in a single afternoon if you send the forces required.

Round the prostitutes up for sorting and remove the loophole for prostitution and porn so you can imprison them, destroy the equipment,freeze their accounts, seize the funds, imprison the financiers and producers, shut the websites down, take the servers and burn down the studios.

Basically, we can't get what we wish unless we have suffered through the storm and have people hate the current system. It sucks, but it's the truth.

I don't care what your petty google search brought up. Statistics on the old elections prove that Hitler's rise was steady for many years and not without drawbacks.
Look it up on wikipedia for fucks sake goofus.
"Out of nowhere". What a naive child.

WOMEN'S OPPRESSION IS A HOAX, WOMEN ARE THE OPPRESSORS! EVERY YEAR WOMEN WORLDWIDE KILL 50-60 MILLION OF THEIR OWN BABIES BY WAY OF ABORTION, WOMEN ARE EXTERMINATING THE FUTURE OF MANKIND(BOTH FEMALE AND MALE FETUSES OF ALL RACES)! FEMINISM IS MENTAL ILLNESS, IT'S DESTROYING ALL PEOPLE! YEEZUS KRIST

right wing reactionary movments are completly natural. they've happened through out history. the aut-right is one.

but people dont feel the vice grip of society because we're sedated with the entertainment industry but take a look at tge entertainment industry. movies are bomning more than a mohamed on a subway and gamers are sick of the industry. the bread and circus doesnt look like its gona be satisfying for long

Works for me.